Help with marks

[grendel67]

Hi just looking for help on what the writing says on 2 piece I got from local auction . One is a bowl and the other is a bronze mirror. Any help would be great.

 

[Toritoribe]

The one on the bronze is 天工中岨信濃守. I can't decipher the first one.

 

[grendel67]

Hi is it a makers name or saying?

 

[SomeCallMeChris]

The first one looks like it's indented. If you did a pencil or charcoal rubbing of it, it might be more legible than a photo of the object itself.

 

[raguna]

i was wrong

 

[grendel67]

I tried to get a better picture charcoal rubbing didn't work so I thinks look better. Also what would this be in English 天工中岨信濃守 I could find the meaning of each Kanji but would this be a person name? the maker what would it be in English so I can look it up easier. ?

 

[raguna]

hmmmmmm.

 

[Toritoribe]

The second kanji is 寿. The first one is still illegible, but looks like 宝.

As for the one on the bronze, it seems neither a person's name nor a company's name. The last three characters 信濃守 can mean the Governor of Shinano Province, but it doesn't make much sense anyway.

 

[grendel67]

What you have for the first kanji look right. What would the first 4 kanji mean or whats it say on the bronze?

 

[Toritoribe]

The last kanji could be 寸 or 干. It doesn't make much sense anyway.