Help with 言って

Laughing Larry · 20 Oct 2009

I have this sentence in my facebook page (F & P are 2 friends of mine):
FさんとPさんが「いいね！」と言っています。
its romanization should be something like:
"F-san to P-san ga "iine!" to /gontte/ imasu."
Now I have a problema with the kanji 言
I looked for it and found this: 言 - Wiktionary
its kun is:

Kun: こと (koto), いう (iu), ことば (kotoba)

How can I merge it with the って part?
The whole sentence should sound like:
either P and F are "isn't it good" ...
thanks

Chidoriashi · 20 Oct 2009

I don't understand the question, are you saying you want to substitute と in と言っています for the more colloquial って？ because the sentence you have right now seems fine to me.

Elizabeth · 20 Oct 2009

Laughing Larry said:
I have this sentence in my facebook page (F & P are 2 friends of mine):
FさんとPさんが「いいね！」と言っています。
its romanization should be something like:
"F-san to P-san ga "iine!" to /gontte/ imasu."

The romaji of this verb is "Itte imasu."

Laughing Larry · 20 Oct 2009

ohhh, so /TO/ is supposed to point to the quote "iine!" and /itte/ means "saying" also because it is headed by /TO/ !! I wonder how I missed that!

so the whole romanization should be:

"F-san to P-san ga "iine!" to itte imasu"

Either Mr. F and Mr. P are saying "isn't that good!" (meaning they appreciate it)

thank you so much!

Toritoribe · 20 Oct 2009

いう - Wiktionary
Japanese verb conjugation - Wikipedia

Here you can see what part the 送り仮名[okurigana] of いう is and how to conjugate う-ending godan verbs.

「いいね！」 means "Nice!/Fine!/Good!";-)

Elizabeth · 20 Oct 2009

Laughing Larry said:
ohhh, so /TO/ is supposed to point to the quote "iine!" and /itte/ means "saying" also because it is headed by /TO/ !! I wonder how I missed that!

so the whole romanization should be:

"F-san to P-san ga "iine!" to itte imasu"

Either Mr. F and Mr. P are saying "isn't that good!" (meaning they appreciate it)

thank you so much!

And just one more in English.... と＝ and, (not either/or!)

Mike Cash · 20 Oct 2009

Larry, do you have a textbook?

Laughing Larry · 20 Oct 2009

well, not yet. I'm considering of purchasing this one said to be the greatest ever: Grammatica Giapponese - Mastrangelo Matilde; Ozawa Naoko; Saito Mariko | Libro Hoepli 05/2016 - HOEPLI.it

Laughing Larry · 21 Oct 2009

ok, so let me show you this:

探している人が見つかりませんか？

The romanization I'm able to get out of it is:

"sagashite iru hito ga miru tsuka rimasen ka?"

where the first part (the subject) is supposed to mean: "the search containing the person..."

bu then I have 見つか /miru tsuka/ I don't get and the final /rimasen ka?/ I thought it should be /arimasen ka?/

thanks

again it is difficult for me to merge the verb miru with the /tsuka/ part

thanks

Elizabeth · 21 Oct 2009

Laughing Larry said:
ok, so let me show you this:
探している人が見つかりませんか？
The romanization I'm able to get out of it is:
"sagashite iru hito ga miru tsuka rimasen ka?"
where the first part (the subject) is supposed to mean: "the search containing the person..."
bu then I have 見つか /miru tsuka/ I don't get and the final /rimasen ka?/ I thought it should be /arimasen ka?/
thanks
again it is difficult for me to merge the verb miru with the /tsuka/ part
thanks

Sagashite iru hito - Person being searched for/OR person doing the searching

Mitsukaru - to be found (~~karimasen/conjugated v. ending - in the negative)

undrentide · 21 Oct 2009

Instead of looking up individual kanji in a dictionary, I'd like to suggest to learn basic verbs and conjugation.
Once you get familiar to how verbs conjugate, it will be easier for you to look up words in disctionaries.

Japanese verb conjugation - Wikipedia
Japanese/Verb conjugation table - Wikibooks, open books for an open world
Verb Basics - Tae Kim's Japanese grammar guide

Laughing Larry · 23 Oct 2009

ok, by the way I have seen I can use /suru/ to make many verbs, as the following: to comment...

AさんがBさんの写真にコメントしました。

which is:

A-san ga B-san no shashin ni komento shimashita

now, the above sentence is totally clear to except the /ni/ part next to コメント

what is that /ni/ for??

thanks

Toritoribe · 24 Oct 2009

Laughing Larry said:
ok, by the way I have seen I can use /suru/ to make many verbs, as the following: to comment...

AさんがBさんの写真にコメントしました。

which is:

A-san ga B-san no shashin ni komento shimashita

now, the above sentence is totally clear to except the /ni/ part next to コメント

what is that /ni/ for??

thanks

The particle に indicates the target/object of the verb コメントする.

Verb-related particles - Tae Kim's Japanese grammar guide

Laughing Larry · 25 Oct 2009

I'm so happy I am now able to write hiragana,katakana and kanji on my Windows Vista! Also, as you probably noticed, I turned Facebbok into Japanese to experience the language a little more while I am studing it!
Speaking of Facebook, I have a question about the following:
ＬａｒｒｙさんがＬｉｓａさん、ほか10人と友達になりました。
why the /to/ is put after /hoka 10 hito/, does it still mean "and" ??
Now, the following:
友達2人ファンになっています。
why the present continuos is beign used instead of /narimashita/ ??
thanks ever so much!

Toritoribe · 25 Oct 2009

Laughing Larry said:
ＬａｒｒｙさんがＬｉｓａさん、ほか10人と友達になりました。
why the /to/ is put after /hoka 10 hito/, does it still mean "and" ??

Another similar use of the 「と」 particle is to show an action that was done together with someone or something else.
（１）友達と話した。- Talked with friend.
（２）先生と会った。 - Met with teacher.

Noun-related particles - Tae Kim's Japanese grammar guide

Laughing Larry said:
Now, the following:
友達2人ファンになっています。
why the present continuos is beign used instead of /narimashita/ ??

I agree with Mike-san. A whole chapter of a textbook would be needed to explain the function of "-teiru" form of verbs.

How do you know... ON/KUN and beyond | Page 13 | Japan Forum

Elizabeth · 26 Oct 2009

Yeah, I third (or fourth ) the textbook idea. It's fantastic that you seem to have picked up a huge amount through everyday interactions. Unfortunately, with verbs there are classes that don't change meaning at all from てーた and there are others where it's a whole different story. A structured resource will divide them correctly. Just giving the answer piecemeal isn't going to help beginners with what they need to fill out the overall pattern.

Ganbatte ne!

Laughing Larry · 30 Oct 2009

I have come across the following:

いいね！を取り消す

I can understand the meaning because of the verb 消す but what is the use of 取り ??

thanks

undrentide · 30 Oct 2009

Laughing Larry said:
I have come across the following:

いいね！を取り消す

I can understand the meaning because of the verb 消す but what is the use of 取り ??

thanks

取り消す is one word, it means "to cancel".

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