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How comes, that the pro whalers, who are thought to be the majority (not just 500, right?) are using the same right winger terms then?. . .like our neo Nazis, exactly so, including the denial of the holocaust even, only "japanese way".
Its thus no BS at all and wellknown.

You are full of it. You say somehow the Japanese majority is racist/rightwing/ultranationalist. The only facts here are that they are a minority. Whatever the number maybe be, reports have it ranging from 500-1000. They are the ones driving around in their black trucks, and wearing military uniforms while going through physical exercise at Yasukuni. They are the ones who are so extreme they will set people's houses on fire(which I think qualifies as terrorism). There are right-wingers in the government as well. Every government has them.

You jump to the conclusion that most whalers are right-wingers. Since the majority of the Japanese apparently support whaling that must mean they are right-wingers as well.

You can't seem to get by the fact that a vocal minority does not have to be representive of the entire population, even if they somehow agree on the issue of whaling.

You have it in your head that whaling is evil. This is the only acceptable view for you. That is fine, you are entitled to this opinion. I am sure you believe it is a fact and the only truth possible. Which takes it beyond being a mere opinion. You are blind to the fact that normal people with no ill intentions can think that sure maybe some whaling is ok.

Anyway this thread is not about whaling. That you can somehow insinuate a small minority is indicative of what the majority thinks is bs. That whaling means you are a right-winger is bs. You insult and put-down any dissenting opinion. If anybody is attempting to suppress debate it is you. You clearly state what you say are facts. You are full of it.
 
It is bs.

Often said by who? .

Language, Please!

Often said by people who were directly and in-directly involved, and possibly by many other's.

I believe this thread is to discuss about if many of the Japanese regard Emperor = god, not about whaling, Right?
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It would seem that way, but things lead to other things and greater debate, as surely you know form your posts, and many other topic threads on forums.
 
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Well, let me play the school master then...

Let's get back to the topic.
 
Please say clearly.
As for your claim, Japanese Emperor has war responsibility, and is it still to be strange that a position of Japanese Emperor is kept?
I wonder why you made this thread as a political topic not a culture & tradition.


Of course you may discuss anything freely here. Anyone can do.
Go ahead.

Just I leave here.


hanachan

As Emperor from Japan, Hirohito was responsible for the war in Asia. But that does not mean that he was guilty?
Our Dutch Queen Wilhelmina declared war on Japan in on the 8th of December 1941, that is to say the she had the sign that declaration.
I suppose that likely has happened to your Emperor?
I know that not everybody feels the same, but I somehow believe that the God-Emperor from Japan had not really dreamed of a war in Asia, had not dreamed of having so many Japanese soldiers been getting killed in that war.
After all it was the God-Emperor who brought WWII to an end. And I can guess that such an act was very brave in those days of a horrible and crazy war!
 
Language, Please!

Often said by people who were directly and in-directly involved, and possibly by many other's.



It would seem that way, but things lead to other things and greater debate, as surely you know form your posts, and many other topic threads on forums.


Bs is bs.

Yeah said by the right-wingers themselves. Do you really believe then that this represents most Japanese? Do you believe that the majority of Japanese are right-wingers? That the Japanese can at anytime turn into extremists in the name of the Emperor?

Often said by those directly, sure this is true in regards to themselves. Those indirectly involved say what exactly? That they will die for the Emperor? And possibly by many others? "Possibly", so you don't really know. If you don't know for a fact why do say that? Anything is possible, that isn't an argument. That doesn't mean you license to say anything that is theoretically in the realm of possiblity as a fact to base your argument on. It is possible the sun won't come up tomorrow, you better stock up on flashlights and batteries. Why won't you do that? I mean it is of course "possible".
 
Bs is bs.

Yeah said by the right-wingers themselves. Do you really believe then that this represents most Japanese? Do you believe that the majority of Japanese are right-wingers? That the Japanese can at anytime turn into extremists in the name of the Emperor?

It would I'm sure represent Japanese and other nationals who were and were not directly involved.

"Right Wingers".. What on earth does that have to do with it?

The abbreviation BS is, I would have thought, not very nice for the sake of getting frustrated to people not following your opinions.

Please read the forum rules under "Inappropriate language"
 
It would I'm sure represent Japanese and other nationals who were and were not directly involved.

"Right Wingers".. What on earth does that have to do with it?

The 2nd sentence makes me wonder why you're posting here without understanding the issue discussed here...?
I'd like to suggest you to read the post #51 "The only fact here..."
It is the right-wingers extremists who wants to revive the Emperor-God sort of society/country, which majority of the Japanese are against.
 
May I suggest once more to read the whole original article? See 1rst post.

Whoever uses certain terms is exactly that extreme. . .or at least about to become this.
 
I think it is just ridiculous to judge the present from the article on May 21, 1945, and vice versa. So tell me what you really want to say with the article.

The police arrests anyone, right or left, who hurt someone/something in Japan. Don't worry.
 
It would I'm sure represent Japanese and other nationals who were and were not directly involved.

"Right Wingers".. What on earth does that have to do with it?

The abbreviation BS is, I would have thought, not very nice for the sake of getting frustrated to people not following your opinions.

Please read the forum rules under "Inappropriate language"

The soldiers were ordered to fight until death for the emperor, were they not?

The Emperor is still in power of sorts, and his position is still engaged?

Above written by you.

Sure, it can happen again, any time.

Above written by Chi.

That's just bs. I think less of 500 people would fight for the emperor right now. So what do you mean with it can happen again, any time.

Written by Dutchbaka.

I believe Chi was very clear..

It's often said it "can happen again"

Anything is possible and it seems to be a constant battle of fighters..

Your response.

How comes, that the pro whalers, who are thought to be the majority (not just 500, right?) are using the same right winger terms then?. . .like our neo Nazis, exactly so, including the denial of the holocaust even, only "japanese way".
Its thus no BS at all and wellknown.

One of Chi's "facts". note the use of right-winger, and pro-whalers being the majority.

And since the right wingers and the emperor model very well have a relation and as such there was an according question. . .for which the pro-whalers are very well included. . .(I would like to leave them out, but that would be wrong, after all we have seen and heard lately)

Again Chi to the rescue.

It would I'm sure represent Japanese and other nationals who were and were not directly involved.

"Right Wingers".. What on earth does that have to do with it?

So if I mention right-wingers it has nothing to do with the topic?
 
I reason that this thread has nothing left to add, perhaps, to the political scene in Japan today, and may be more history related. For that reason, and in accordance with the wishes of the OP, this thread will be closed until further notice, or the actions of others on the staff, or forever.
 
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