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Diru fans: Are you in or are you out?


I have never bought a single item associated with that band, nor will I ever. The cd's I've heard were through lives I've attended for reasons that DO NOT involve them directly. I've not spent a dime toward their moneystacks, nor do I ever plan to.

Just because I think they have improved, doesnt mean that I like it. Dont confuse my saying *6 Ugly did it for me* as my stamp of approval. Its the old saying 'No matter how many times you polish feces, its always gonna be a piece of sh*t' applies to them, when it comes to my opinion.

They used to be vomit to me. Now they've 'upgraded' to indigestion.
 
Wahahaha... Cruel joke... If you do that to me maybe I will get a heart attack.. Haha!
 
i think that the whole Saku single is f*cking awsome. it's surely different from their previous works, but i really love it. i hope people will still support DeG cuz they are great and i really dont want them to break up T_T. DeG is the one band i have most respect for...i wish other ppl have to same love for them like i do...
 

I am sad that you feel this way, but I want to thank you for clarifying that you dont support them for me as well as giving me the only real negative view of the band that I have heard first hand. I must ask though since I brought it up earlier, Because you are not a, well, fan, what is your opinion on them supposedly being in it for the money? Im trying to understand the negative views on the subject which is why I started this.

Jyuu_Niikura said:
Wahahaha... Cruel joke... If you do that to me maybe I will get a heart attack.. Haha!

I'll make sure never to do that then!! XD


It would be nice to have it that way, but then every one would be like clones... :? I guess I am happy seeing that there are some people who do not feel the same way I do...I still am sad when I see such insults towards them thou...
 
maybe their next album will be much different...
 
mizerable_d said:
maybe their next album will be much different...

I have heard that their next album will be comming out in March. So we must wait and see....
 

I couldnt give a shat from shinola if they're in it for money, women, drugs, or cheese. The point is I plain dont like them as musicians, for their outright bad musicianship, but I just noticed that while a scant 5 years ago they were autrocious, but lately they are plain bad.

To me, its not that they have gotten better, they've just gotten less worse.

On another note, any person that hates someone in music merely for the fact that the person is in it for money only, deserves a bullet in the head. There is nothing wrong with having ambition to make money.
 
I love Diru, they're one of my favorite bands. I sent my wishes to Diru which is being turned into a paper crane. I encourage alot of people do so too. Copy paste this link to view more

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This was taken off her Xanga:

"Legend says that if you fold one thousand paper cranes, someone's wish will come true.

Regardless of that legend, if people from every corner of the world were to make their

own wish, and those wishes and their names, and countries were written on each crane,

and sent.. how much would that mean?


Note: The band could use a little encouragement.
Why?: Following the release of the album Vulgar, and the drop out of their usual and noted Visual Kei image, Dir en grey have gotten the short end of the stick. Now, there is a difference between Foreign fandom and Japanese fandom. Most of you will remember the critism that ensued over the loss of the kei image, as well as the crowd surfing ban. Go, [JrockNYC] and his reveiws at the current time, as well as his extreme outlook, are a perfect example of how bad it was in Japan as opposed to the US and other countries.
The state of decline in Dir en grey's fanbase was rapid and vicious, fans were reported to have sent the band letters demanding that they break, reviewists wrote Kyo off as 'tone deaf'. A huge percentile of fans were lost. And lyrics like this [R to the Core-Vulgar album] were lost on the few loyal, and the ones who'd turned.

R TO THE CORE
Lyrics: Kyo Music: Dir en grey

You're the one that's stupid.
You're a pig; acting all honest
but you hide your true self.
Can't hear anything. Can't feel anything.
This is a place of contradiction.

My heart screamed out,
you make fun of me
like you make fun of my dead left ear.

I know everyone isn't like that,
but I can't accept everything.
So I still, even now scream out in a hoarse voice
to all you rotten people...

There is an answer,
so writhe in agony
and let your will to live come out.
Everyone's the same once they sin.


Almost every song on the album speaks of betrayal and is an obvious ploy at it. Fans accused them of selling out. The fatalistic approach continues right down to Saku. Dir en grey appealed to the foreign fans after Vulgar, for most obvious reasons.
A recent supposed message from Kyo to the Japanese fans:

my voice is dead
my heart is dead
my emotions are dead
my heart is dead
there's no one inside me
rather than living with a smile
reality...


.... =\

Myself and my friend are working on a project, she'll be folding one thousand paper cranes. We'll send them to Diru, to show our encouragement, and approval.
Please, anyone who wants to help, all you have to do, is give the following to be written on the cranes ( either comment here or e-mail me at kazeninagasare@aol.com (note: this is my friends e-mail who is organizing it, not mine. Sorry for the confusion there folks.) ):

Name:
Country:
Wish for Diru:

Thank you for your time.

As a side note, don't respond to this if you think it's a stupid idea, think we're looking too much in to things, think we've lost our minds, or just feel like belittling someone. This isn't for that, it's a way for Dir en grey fans to show their appreciation for the band. If you don't like it, DON'T comment.

Thanks. ^o^"

*dies* It's quite horrible what people will do in this world. How can you call yourself a fan? I mean, it just doesn't seem possible to me. REAL fans stick with the band through thick and thin and quite frankly, I'm sick of all you people. (NOTE: this is not directed twards everyone)

So please... please help with this if you are a long term Dir en Grey fan, or if you just got to know them. If we don't, who knows what kind of horrible things will happen.

And I know people come to this site and don't comment. The meter tells all. All I ask is that you comment on this one thing... please. It would help a lot to make many a people stop crying AND for me not to be even more bitchy than I already am about all this s*** going on in my life.

Sorry if I may have come on strong but you all need to help.

Thank you.
 
Anything Gordon said at the time when JrockNYC was up should be taken with a grain of salt...especially regarding DeG.

Just had to throw that in.
 

i agree with the part about people in music for money. i mean you COULD like making music, but money is a great thing too...

but i repeat i love DeG...
 
mizerable_d said:
i agree with the part about people in music for money. i mean you COULD like making music, but money is a great thing too...

but i repeat i love DeG...

I have no problem with people being in it for the money, i just have a problem with fans who decide that they...argh I don't kno what words to use here....I just enjoy hearing other peoples opinions on what I have interest in...*shrug* I have....rar....no words again...
 
I've liked everything Dir en grey has released so far, and their newest stuff is some of my favorites. They've matured over the years. I think the actual fans, who have been there through Diru's career, realize this. It's the newer people, who randomly heard an older Diru song maybe a year ago, who are like "What's this? This isn't the band I heard...". Granted, I'm one of the somewhat new fans, but I don't have a problem with the newer stuff at all.

And you might not like Saku, but I'd like to know who in this forum has the cajones to bash a song like Machiavellism. -plays it for about the hundred millionth time-
 
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SkippyDaStudent85 said:
Simply put, my loyalties are with them forever!
That's definitely the way it is with me. I've been with the band since the beginning and my loyalty hasn't wavered since. Dir en grey has been the most influential band in my life, for reasons all my own, and they have been at the top of my "favourites" list for quite a number of years, despite their evolution.

I find their music unique and versatile; there's a song to suit my every mood. I find the members very talented in their fields and I like that they experiment whenever they get the chance to. Of course, one of the things that has kept me so attached to the band is Kyo. His vocals and lyrics are the likes of which I haven't heard from any other band -- I don't know any other person who has written a song from the point of view of a fetus being aborted. That's the sort of unique material that I love...

Of course, I will admit that I wasn't all too fond of VULGAR at all (I DID like it, it was just near the bottom of my favourites list)... I thought it shallow and uninteresting. It felt as though Kyo's lyrical ability was being poured down the drain... until a friend and I began to start picking apart the songs and noticed patterns in VULGAR that weren't in any other album. It fascinated me... and suddenly I felt as though the album wasn't shallow at all. Through all the evolution the band was going through... I hadn't lost the Dir en grey that I loved, it had simply changed in ways I wasn't expecting.

I love that album now more than I thought I ever could, and I have quite an attachment to the recent release "Saku."

The loss of their visual aspect never bothered me much. Of course I loved seeing them dressed in outfits I would kill to have -- of course I loved seeing Shinya in dresses and Kyo with heavy gothicesque make-up on... But it never meant more to me than the music did. It was always just a bonus -- something I'd be happy with or without. It was never about the visuals to me. It was always the music.

Of course... Everyone has their own opinions on the band and the evolution... Everyone has their own views on the visual and musical asppects, and I respect those opinions and views.
 
Tsuki to tawamure said:
I don't know any other person who has written a song from the point of view of a fetus being aborted. That's the sort of unique material that I love...

Just as a fun side note, check out Rammstein's song Mutter (translation: Mother). It's about a literal test tube baby. No biological mother. And, of course, it's in german ^.^
 
Tsuki to tawamure, wow! I must just say, wow. I was never really attached to the visual but I still do at times miss it. I love every change I see in them, and I have always felt I have had a good understanding of the message Kyo intends to spread with his lyrics.
 
a lot of Kyo's words still remain very obscure to me...-_-;;; but for the songs i do understand i feel that they are very touching...
 
mizerable_d said:
a lot of Kyo's words still remain very obscure to me...-_-;;; but for the songs i do understand i feel that they are very touching...

His songs always seem to have a deeper meaning then the one that appears on the surface. I dunno what is is but I always feel like I understand his messages...
 
some of his songs i undersatnd better, some less, but the one song i dont get is Myaku... so confuzzling...:?
 
mizerable_d said:
some of his songs i undersatnd better, some less, but the one song i dont get is Myaku... so confuzzling...:?

Umm, Myaku is about sex... Kyo's singing in the role of the woman again and is well talking about have sex to make a child. There isn't much to it...Its one of those songs that....
 
...i thought it was about butterflies...i feel so ashamed of myself...

CRAP! WRONG SONG! gahh got myaku and some other song mixed up...

-_-;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
 
You got it mixed up with Macabre - Sanagi no Yume ha Ageha no Hane (ancient chinese for "The Pupa Dreams of the Swallowtail Butterfly's Wings"). It's about a bird eating a bug. But it's actually about Kyo and a girl. It's too hard to explain...go here: Bandar Togel Online Terbesar Deposit Pulsa Resmi - winsortoto.com adalah Situs terpercaya yang membahas tentang bandar-bandar togel online terbesar di indonesia dengan fasilitas deposit puilsa resmi via telkomsel dan XL

Centigrade-J is actually a really good sight for translations, and explanations that are super confusing when translated (or even when not translated, lots of the time). And they have LOADS more than just Diru songs.
 
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