Conjugation help please

[GoldCoinLover]

Those are normally introduced one at a time, with the expectation that one will do lots of practice drills and internalize the formation of each one before learning the next one. You're not supposed to get them all at once.

そうでね?

Thank you mike-cash.

I will try to learn them gradually. One at a time and pratice them.

Should I learn how to write every kana ?

I'm goign to start reading my converstion japanese books (I have 2 of them).And my video.

Here's a question for you, 2 actually:
1) With how fluent your japanese is, Do you think you, yourself, is probably able to translate japanese video games?
2) I have a book, "lets learn japanese" Basic Conversation Skills, 1, by Radio japan and authored by Nobuko MItzutami.

Made by NHK Overseas Broadcasting Department.

It uses weird sentences. Like this:
A[re wa na]n desu ka?

Except it uses japanese quotes where the []'s are.

What does this represent?

Thanks again.

 

[Mike Cash]

I'm taking a break. I don't deserve to be treated like this.

You bring all this grief and heartache on yourself, you know. How about growing up enough to honestly recognize that? Everybody here bangs their heads against the wall trying to give you helpful hints and guidance. And for the most part you either ignore it or resent it.....and invariably start acting like some victimized drama queen.

 

[KrazyKat]

I don't have all of the "u" verbs for the te forms conjugated.

This sentence doesn't make sense.



Don't think of shite as meaning anything. Its meaning will depend upon what follows it. It could mean 'doing' if followed by a form of iru.

You will not be able to read Japanese video games in 6 months. It will take years. Sorry.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

This sentence doesn't make sense.
Don't think of shite as meaning anything. Its meaning will depend upon what follows it. It could mean 'doing' if followed by a form of iru.
You will not be able to read Japanese video games in 6 months. It will take years. Sorry.

Oh okay. yeah, I guess no one can learn a language in 6 months, but my pastor used to speak in french fluently in quebec and he learned tos peak it fluently by intensive study in a classroom in only 6 months.

I heard 'iru' is related to imasu very closely. How is this so?

I thought imasu was the polite form of iru, but I was wrong.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

You bring all this grief and heartache on yourself, you know. How about growing up enough to honestly recognize that? Everybody here bangs their heads against the wall trying to give you helpful hints and guidance. And for the most part you either ignore it or resent it.....and invariably start acting like some victimized drama queen.

Well, I'm not trying to ignore it. I forget it some of it.

Resent it? I don't resent it.

I do think some people could be nicer though.

 

[WHEATTHlNS]

Oh okay. yeah, I guess no one can learn a language in 6 months but my pastor used to speak in french fluently in quebec and he learned tos peak it fluently by intensive study in a classroom in only 6 months.

French/English are similar languages based on a common language. Japanese/English are in NO WAY related.

I heard 'iru' is related to imasu very closely. How is this so?

IRU is the dictionary form of IMASU.

I thought imasu was the polite form of iru, but I was wrong.

Who told you that?

 

[KrazyKat]

Oh okay. yeah, I guess no one can learn a language in 6 months, but my pastor used to speak in french fluently in quebec and he learned tos peak it fluently by intensive study in a classroom in only 6 months.
I heard 'iru' is related to imasu very closely. How is this so?
I thought imasu was the polite form of iru, but I was wrong.

No you are right.

 

[Mike Cash]

そうでね?
Thank you mike-cash.
I will try to learn them gradually. One at a time and practice them.
Should I learn how to write every kana ?

Yes, but there's no rush.

I'm goign to start reading my conversation japanese books (I have 2 of them).And my video.
Here's a question for you, 2 actually:
1) With how fluent your japanese is, Do you think you, yourself, is probably able to translate japanese video games?

I've translated a novel, so I could probably handle a video game.

2) I have a book, "lets learn japanese" Basic Conversation Skills, 1, by Radio japan and authored by Nobuko MItzutami.
Made by NHK Overseas Broadcasting Department.
It uses weird sentences. Like this:
A[re wa na]n desu ka?
Except it uses japanese quotes where the []'s are.
What does this represent?
Thanks again.

Were there no explanatory notes at the beginning of the book? Those are markers to show where the pitch accent rises and falls.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

Yes, but there's no rush.
I've translated a novel, so I could probably handle a video game.
Were there no explanatory notes at the beginning of the book? Those are markers to show where the pitch accent rises and falls.

Actually, no explaination markers.

My other book doesn't have this.

su[mima]sen.

So mima is emphathized?

MikeCash, can you give any idea about progress?

One person said, do it until you understand it. Well, that's pretty hard on the yan-san video because they don't explain what the verbs, objects mean, the particles, etc. Only very few of them they explain. Even at lesson 16, they didn't really get into it.

The problem is its difficult for me to understand. Like you said, its totally unrelated. Do you think I've made any progress recently, at all? I certainly hope so. I realize that sometimes I get things mixed up, its' because I'm not used to the language. I was able to conjugate "I'm playing my PSP', thats good, isn't it?

Now, I wanted to say "I'm playing my PSP and reading." (at the same time), I heard you use nagara, but I don't know exactly how to insert this.

I should also say I'm a slow learner. Even with math, it was slow for me to learn it. However, once I learn it, it sticks. (Unless I don't do it for years).

So, here's some options, please tell me which one I should do:
Should I....

1) Only do the japanese video, and pratice writing the hiragana on each one until I mastered it, as well as listening to the video and remembering the phrases ? (1 lesson per week, each one is 30 minutes long)
2) Do the video, and 1 lesson in the book "Let's learn japanese", and one lesson in "Japanese conversation" all in one day.
3) Screw that. You can't learn it, period. You need a teacher.

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I'd honestly like to get a tutor, in a group, or whatever so I can ask questions. But it costs alto of money. Also, elizabeth-san gave me the phone number of some society in Phoenix arizona called "Japan society of america' or something. That's not the name, I forgot the name, and a google search didn't help. I also lost the PM, so I lsot the phone number.

I called the man before ,but I want to talk to him again. The lessons are supposed to be very expensive. And I don't have a job. I'm hoping best buy will hire me for the video game part (I'm very out going, that's good, is it?)

One more question (Gomen!):
1) Do you think far east people (Including japanese, koreans, chinese) have a harder time learning english due to its stricter rules (japanese is more looser) than us (or europeans for that matter) learning japanese?

Thanks again mikecahs, and everyone else.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

You also said 'iru' is the plain form of 'imasu.'

This is interesting. So, 'iru' is for inamite objects? I've looked but I could never find anything about it. Yep, the website doesn't have it. Weird. I suppose 'eru' is for inanimte then? Just a guess.

What is the differeence?

 

[KrazyKat]

iru is exist for living things.
aru is exist for non living things.

when iru follows the -te form it creates the present progressive instead of meaning 'exist for living things'.

 

[GoldCoinLover]

iru is exist for living things.
aru is exist for non living things.
when iru follows the -te form it creates the present progressive instead of meaning 'exist for living things'.

PSP wo asonde iru.
I am playing my PSP.
So I guess this is what you mean?
Notice the ~ing ending.

I am playing my PSP and(while) reading a newspaper.

The ~Nagara suffix, how do I use it here, politely?

 

[KrazyKat]

Don't worry about nagara yet. Learn one thing at a time.

you probably wanted to say asonde imasu. this is more polite because imasu is the polite form of iru.

 

[The7thSamurai]

PSP wo asonde iru.
I am playing my PSP.
So I guess this is what you mean?
Notice the ~ing ending.
I am playing my PSP and(while) reading a newspaper.
The ~Nagara suffix, how do I use it here, politely?

Don't even think about using two verbs in one sentence. You'll learn that in another year.