Concise translation needed

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Konnichiwa mina-san!

I need a translation please. I was told this says Devil's Leader, or Leader of the Devil, is this correct?

Akuma No Shuryō


I need some romaji that translates to "Devil's Mentor." I understand that there's no real translation for "Mentor,"

A friend and I are wanting to do a manga, for class, so I need something, in romaji, that is as close to "Devil's Mentor" as possible.

Domo

 

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Yes and no. There are so many homonyms in Japanese. "Shuryō" can mean boss / leader, and also means hunting. (These two shuryōs are the same in romaji or kana, so it's homonym. However, the kanji are different and the meaning is provided by it (and by the context, of course), so it's homophone in this sense.)

I would use "shi / shishō" or "jogensha" for mentor. The former is close to master and the latter is adviser. (Notice that "shi" also means death or poem.)

 

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Toritoribe said:

Yes and no. There are so many homonyms in Japanese. "Shuryō" can mean boss / leader, and also means hunting. (These two shuryōs are the same in romaji or kana, so it's homonym. However, the kanji are different and the meaning is provided by it (and by the context, of course), so it's homophone in this sense.)

I would use "shi / shishō" or "jogensha" for mentor. The former is close to master and the latter is adviser. (Notice that "shi" also means death or poem.)

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So would it be written out as Akuma no Shishō?

From my limited understanding of Nihonjin dialect and structure (I am trying to learn on my own), " no " is showing possession, like the apostrophe S ( 's ) shows possession in the U.S. English (not sure about other English dialects), as in Devil's.

Much thanks!

 

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Yeah, "akuma no shishō" usually means "devil's master". "No" can express apposition, so it can mean "my master (is) devil", though. (FYI, although "Shi" has ambiguity, it sounds more literary than "shishō".)

 

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I'm a bit confused, I apologize.

I do like the Devil's Master!

Are you saying to use "Shi" instead of "Shishō"? Should I use "no" or not? What would be the best sentence structure, for what I am looking for?

Thank you

 

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"Akuma no shi" is the best phrase, but you can't avoid the ambiguity of the word "shi" unless you use kanji, and furthermore, "akuma no" can mean "demonic / diabolic" even in kanji.

 

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In keeping with the romaji structure, how/what would you suggest for "Devil," that's not so ambiguous? I don't necessarily need to use Akuma, as long as the end result can be defined as "Devil's Mentor."

Thank you, Toritoribe

 

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"Akuma no shi" is the best, as I wrote. Only the context defines the meaning.

 

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Thank you so much for all the help, Toritoribe, it's greatly appreciated.