a question about the chinese and vietnamese

[user12563]

hey everyone,
it's me again. i have a question about the vietnamese and chinese. i read vietnam is in the south china seas along with
philippines,malaysia,brunei,indonesia,and singapore. i was wondering if these countires came from china? like chinese founded these countries and form their own countries. like would the vietnamese be part of china. so in away their chinese? thank you all for your time.
-Joe

 

[Chidoriashi]

Umm, i suggest you just use wikipedia my friend...

 

[Illusional]

wait... you're 24 and you seriously dunno the answer to this question? it's like saying that all of south american people are considered mexican because their skin is tanned.

raverboy

 

[user12563]

well i meant alot of china's culture is use by the vietnamese. i don't know much about vietnam.but i read the hoa is a big ethnic in vietnam who are Chinese who immigrated to Vietnam during the Qing Dynasty and Republic of China period. but the reason i ask is i can't choose between having my main character be half-chinese or half-vietnamese. his dad is american. so i'm trying to figure away to have him be both chinese and vietnamese in his mom's side without having her be half-vietnamese and half-chinese.

 

[user12563]

wow おたべちゃん i didn't know that i didn't think china started it's own nation state. i always thought japan was found different since i know they had a big fight with each other. but i do know vietnam and philippines can speak and understand english. i don't really understand the history of hoas. like i said earlier '' are Chinese who immigrated to Vietnam during the Qing Dynasty and Republic of China period.'' like how do i have my main character's mom family be from vietnam but have her family be chinese too. because my main character's parents meet in vietnam during the vietnam war. but in the series the main character goes to live with his billionaire grandpa (from her mom's side of the family) in america.

 

[Illusional]

are you planning on getting a tattoo or something?

raverboy

 

[user12563]

no Iiiusional i don't believe in tattos

 

[Illusional]

i believe in tattoos... anyways, i'm wondering why you wanted to know about the characters in your family.

raverboy

 

[user12563]

no Illusional my character's family not my family.

 

[4321go]

hey everyone,
it's me again. i have a question about the vietnamese and chinese. i read vietnam is in the south china seas along with
philippines,malaysia,brunei,indonesia,and singapore. i was wondering if these countires came from china? like chinese founded these countries and form their own countries. like would the vietnamese be part of china. so in away their chinese? thank you all for your time.
-Joe

Wow ,as far as I know, China never conquered Vietnam . but Vietnam being a vassal state for many years ...

Vietnamese is different form Chinese ,as you know ,Vietnam is in the south ,Just like South America and North America...

 

[andyonly]

china never conquered vietnam，philippines,malaysia,brunei,indonesia,and singapore.it is ture that there are many chinese people live in these country in history.

 

[papen]

Vietnam is the only country in SEA influenced heavily by Chinese culture. There're 4 times China conquered Vietnam. And the 1st time was the longest which is called 1000 years occupation of the Han , or another name is 1000 years belong to the North. The rest of Vietnam history was a vassal state until 18th century when the French came.

 

[dsvlee]

Maybe I can answer this, but forgive my English, just be patient.

When you see Vietnam history, you may see China always conquered Vietnam. But if you think it from the opposite, the 2 countries relationship is just like Scottish and welsh. You cannot say who invade who, right? Same thing happened in Korea, Mongolia and Turkistan. But I can say Mongolian are Chinese. Why? Because there are 8 million Mongolian in China, and only 2 million in their own country.

So when you ask this question, you misunderstand a concept as all the other foreigners. Major nationality in China is HAN people, but HAN people doesnt mean China. China has 56 ethnic groups. Han is just one of them. Even Han itself absorbed many great ethnic groups, like Goguryeo, Cathay, Jurchen and hundreds of them. 3100 yrs ago, King of Zhou defeated nearly 100 kindoms and 600+ cities along Huang river. Which forms prime Han. A loser king in that battle ran into Korea. The man taught the locals to write and the idea of culture. His decendants controled Korea for 1500+ years, then another Chinese ran into Korea because of war in China and instead of the local king.

While until about 600 years ago, Emperor of China(Ming period) gave an order to all the kings in east asia, said there are only 13 provinces are traditional Han area, called Han Chinese. And all the others using Chinese culture, dressing nearly to Chinese with high class of culture at that time are different kinds of Chinese(I donot know how to translate the name directly). And he gave a list of kingdom(other Chinese) will never invade, including 17 kindoms:
1 korea 2 Japan 3 Ryukyu(controled by Japan now) 4 Northern Vietnam 5 Southern Vietnam and Cambodia 6 ancient thailand 7 part of Indonesia 8 another part of Indonesia 9 Sumatra and other eight ancient southeast asian nations.

Although he considered these nations were Chinese, he only asked these countries gave tribute to China, in return Chinese government would gave more treasure back. The only requriement was these country should nominally belong to China and keep China's border line safe. So that's why evertime Korea ,Pakistan ,Vietnam and others had a war with foreigners, China will send out army to help.