どこに行くのも

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Hello,
So, it's this sentence that gives me trouble: どこに行くのも 運んでもらえるのですね。The context is about a doll-sized girl and she states the advantages of being so small. I know that the sentence translates more or less as: "I can have someone carry me anywhere." but there are 2 things I don't get:

1)The meaning of どこに行くのも. I guess it means "going anywhere" but I'm not entirely sure. To me, it seems really weird that も is after の and not after に. I've found quite a few examples but none of them have a literal translation. Could you tell me if I'm translating these correctly? Also, am I the only one to whom this construction sounds weird?

何食べるのも怖くなっちゃうし 何も食べらんないじゃん。
Eating anything has become scary, so you can't eat anything. (Taken from some comments about the stuff in food these days, I think.)

何を食べるのもあなたの自由です。
You are free to eat anything.

おばあさんはだんだんと何をするのも億劫みたいだ。
It seems like my grandmother is getting more and more tired of doing anything.​

2)If the first part really means what I think it means, how does it connect to 運んでもらえる. It seems like there is a particle missing between those in order to link "going anywhere" with "can be carried". Umm...I'm not sure I'm explaining this too clearly.

Also, note that the sentence is taken from a manga, so the space in the sentence means that they are on different columns, if that canges anything...
 
In your first example sentence, どこに行くのも is used as an adverbial clause. You can think it as どこに行く(の)にも or どこに行くときも "anytime I go anywhere".

も means "too/also" and connects the object and the predicative(adjective) instead of が in your examples except the first one.
何(を)食べるのも怖くなっちゃう (~を食べるのが怖い)
何を食べるのもあなたの自由です(~を食べるのは自由だ)
何をするのも億劫みたい(~をするのが億劫だ)
 
Well, someone told me as well that it's that kind of も but I still don't understand why. Let's say も gets replaced with が.

何を食べるのが怖い This would translate as 'What do you find scary to eat?' or more literally 'Eating what is scary?'. Or that's how I would translate it. I know it doesn't have the か at the end, but does that change anything?

If も just means 'also' then 何を食べるのも怖い would be "Eating what else is scary?". It's pretty different from "eating anything".


Also, apart from asking why the first example is special and changes like that I don't understand either of the other two meanings.

Is にも this without the かかわらず? So it would be something like "regardless of where I go..."
And どこに行くときも...literally, to me it is "also, when you go where...". I can't make any sense of it. It's kind of similar with what I said at the beginning of the post.
 
In the 食べる example i would take it as listing a single example of a set of things that might include "drinking tapwater", "taking medicine" etc. (If the context is the speakers concern about additives or contamination or pollution or something.) E.g. there are various cases where she 怖くなっちゃう of which eating is one.
 
Well, someone told me as well that it's that kind of も but I still don't understand why. Let's say も gets replaced with が.

何を食べるのが怖い This would translate as 'What do you find scary to eat?' or more literally 'Eating what is scary?'. Or that's how I would translate it. I know it doesn't have the か at the end, but does that change anything?

If も just means 'also' then 何を食べるのも怖い would be "Eating what else is scary?". It's pretty different from "eating anything".


Also, apart from asking why the first example is special and changes like that I don't understand either of the other two meanings.

Is にも this without the かかわらず? So it would be something like "regardless of where I go..."
And どこに行くときも...literally, to me it is "also, when you go where...". I can't make any sense of it. It's kind of similar with what I said at the beginning of the post.
Haven't you learned "interrogative + も" means "any/every"? It's quite the same as, for instance, どこも is "anywhere/eveywhere" or どの国の人も is "people in any country".

刺身を食べるのが怖い。 I feel scary to eat sashimi.
刺身を食べるのも怖い。 I feel scary to eat sashimi, too.
何を食べるのも怖い。 I feel scary to eat anything.

学校に行くのに、タクシーを使う。 I take a taxi when I go to school.
学校に行くのにも、タクシーを使う。 I take a taxi also when I go to school.
どこに行くのにも、タクシーを使う。 I take a taxi anytime I go anywhere.

学校に行くとき、タクシーを使う。
学校に行くときも、タクシーを使う。
どこに行くときも、タクシーを使う。

As you can see examples above, も is replaced with が(を is also disappered behind も), whereas も is just added after に, とき or other particles.
As for のに, it's just "the nominalizer の + the particle に", not an adversative conjunction のに.
 
I see. I didn't know that も has that meaning when it's not exactly after a question word.

In your first example sentence, どこに行くのも is used as an adverbial clause. You can think it as どこに行く(の)にも or どこに行くときも "anytime I go anywhere".

Here, you put の in brackets. Does that mean that it could be dropped when using にも?

Also, why is the first sentence special? I was thinking, due to the column break, that it is something like: "About going anywhere....I can have someone carry me."

View image: siru 05 0156

It's in the third right panel, just in case it matters how the sentence is written.

And thanks! You already taught me a lot.
 
Here, you put の in brackets. Does that mean that it could be dropped when using にも?
Yes. This is a remnant of classical grammar that any nominalizer is not needed for a clause preceding a particle.
e.g.
過ちを改めるに如くはなし(= 過ちを改めるのに)
あれに見えるは茶摘みじゃないか(= あそこに見えるのは)

Also, why is the first sentence special? I was thinking, due to the column break, that it is something like: "About going anywhere....I can have someone carry me."
Not really. It doesn't matter whether it's written separately or not. It's a single sentence anyway. どこに行く(の)にも or どこに行くときも is grammatically more appropriate, but どこに行くのも is actually used and understandable enough.
 
I see, I understand it now.

I am really grateful for your help!
 
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