raikado
先輩
- 29 Oct 2012
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Hello,
So, today I've encountered this(it's a girl talking, if it matters): 一緒に、私の姉妹を捜しませんか? といってもー 主に桂木(かつらぎ)くんが中心で。
My translation is something like: "Wouldn't you help me search for my sisters? Even if I say this...You are, for the most part, the central part of all this."; I guess the intent is that she is telling him that he is already too deep in the matter and there is no way he could refuse.
Anyway, what bothers me is で at the end there. This is not the first time I've encountered this, but until now I've dealt with it by interpreting the sentence as being incomplete, and that the rest is left out. But I'm starting to doubt this, mostly because of the full stop at the end. I think this で it's just the same as だ, but it's only used like this in colloquial speech.
When I searched I only found people asking for sentences ending in verbs in te form, while this で feels different.
Also, here's a sentence I found yesterday: 私と・・・話しませんか? 天理(てんり)には秘密で。Again, it fits to replace it with だ. "Can you talk to me? Tenri doesn't know about this. (This is a secret for Tenri)".
So, is this で the same thing as だ? And if so, is there any reason why one would use で instead of the grammatically correct だ?
So, today I've encountered this(it's a girl talking, if it matters): 一緒に、私の姉妹を捜しませんか? といってもー 主に桂木(かつらぎ)くんが中心で。
My translation is something like: "Wouldn't you help me search for my sisters? Even if I say this...You are, for the most part, the central part of all this."; I guess the intent is that she is telling him that he is already too deep in the matter and there is no way he could refuse.
Anyway, what bothers me is で at the end there. This is not the first time I've encountered this, but until now I've dealt with it by interpreting the sentence as being incomplete, and that the rest is left out. But I'm starting to doubt this, mostly because of the full stop at the end. I think this で it's just the same as だ, but it's only used like this in colloquial speech.
When I searched I only found people asking for sentences ending in verbs in te form, while this で feels different.
Also, here's a sentence I found yesterday: 私と・・・話しませんか? 天理(てんり)には秘密で。Again, it fits to replace it with だ. "Can you talk to me? Tenri doesn't know about this. (This is a secret for Tenri)".
So, is this で the same thing as だ? And if so, is there any reason why one would use で instead of the grammatically correct だ?