てくる and ところ

[raikado]

Hello,

So, the context is pretty easy to explain this time. A girl suddenly kisses the boy, and the boy, surprised, pushes her away. She asks him why and he responds with あーゆーことされたら、普通理由とか聞いてくるところだろ！！

Firstly, who is the subject of the second sentence? I'm assuming it's people in general, so I would translate this as "When they are being done something like that (I know, it doesn't sound natural), normally, that's the part when one would ask for a reason."
The problem is, I don't understand why てくる is necessary. Is it "they would go and ask for a reason", just like when you command someone to go do something (e.g 果物を買ってくる）?
If the subject would be "you", "the girl", "the one who kissed him", then I would understand...she should come to him to ask for a reason, except this doesn't seem right, according to the context.

Second thing, the usage of ところ. I'm assuming it's not this: (after present form of a verb) about to; on the verge of. ところ is used here to basically say "a point in time" or "the part when" (as I translated it), right? I made this assumption about ところ long ago, but since I didn't ask anyone, I still have a very slight doubt that I'm understanding this right.

 

[Toritoribe]

～てくる can be also used to show the direction of action/movement. For instance, 花びらが落ちてくる means that flower petals fall down. The direction is "coming to me" (to the ground where I am), so くる is used.

ところ is more likely "situation" in that case.

ところ【所／処】
場面。局面。「今の―おとなしい」「今日の―は許してやろう」

ところ【所／処】の意味 - 国語辞書 - goo辞書

As for the subject of the second clause, I, too, think it's people in general. However, 聞いてくる is a word on the viewpoint of the one who is asked (e.g. 彼女が俺に聞いてくる), so 聞くところだろ seems to be more appropriate to the context to me.

 

[raikado]

As for the subject of the second clause, I, too, think it's people in general. However, 聞いてくる is a word on the viewpoint of the one who is asked (e.g. 彼女が俺に聞いてくる), so 聞くところだろ seems to be more appropriate to the context to me.

From the viewpoint of the one who is asked? Did you mean from the viewpoint of the speaker?

I see that 理由 also translates as pretext. If 聞いてくる is used only when the subject is the girl, then could he mean that she should ask for (have) a pretext to kiss him, and not do it out of the blue? She is not his girlfriend, although he did kiss her once before. I'm also considering this because he uses とか.

EDIT: Nevermind...the 理由を聞く part doesn't make sense to me anymore. I'll post a bit more of the dialogue, maybe I'm interpreting things wrong.

Girl: お前からやってきたことじゃ。なぜイヤがる？
Boy: こっちにも展開の予定があるんだよ！！あーゆーことされたら、普通理由とか聞いてくるところだろ！！何段階飛ばすんだ お前！！

 

[Toritoribe]

Mostly, the speaker is the one who is asked, as in my example above 彼女が俺に聞いてくる "She asks me / I am the one who is asked (by her)". However, it can be second or third person. For instance, in a sentence そのうち彼女がお前に理由を聞いてくるんじゃないか？, the speaker is talking from the viewpoint of the one he is talking to (= お前), therefore くる is used here (She will ask you./You are the one who will be asked by her). This sentence can mean 聞いて、来る "she will ask you, and then come to me" depending on the context, of course.

I googled the sentence and read that part in 神のみぞ知るセカイ. He had kissed her previously and then she kissed him, right? Then, he seems to be talking from the viewpoint of her, i.e., the subject of された and 聞いてくる are both お前(= her); お前が俺に理由を聞いてくる.

 

[raikado]

Ohh, I understand now. So it translates like this : "If you would be done that (by me), then you would come and ask me for a reason."

 

[Toritoribe]

くる just shows the direction of the question (question from her to me/she asks to me), not a physical action "to come" in that sentence.