ていい、てくれる

atpay · 26 Jun 2008

I am not clear on the differences between ていい And てくれる。Specifically, I am wanting to ask, "Can you wait?" (before doing something)

I'm thinking that
待っていい？Means can I wait? (Is it okay if I wait?)
待ってくれる？Means can you wait? (would you mind waiting?)
And 待っていい（よ）。Means you can wait. (It's OK if you wait.)

How close am I?

My initial reaction is to ask まっていい？To try to say "can you wait?"

But think that is not right.

Thanks in advance. This is my first post.

Charles Barkley · 26 Jun 2008

Can you give more context on the situation?

Kirakira1232 · 26 Jun 2008

Simply put, you use kureru/kudasai when making a specific request.

Matte kudasai/kureru
Could you please wait.

I think the other form your thinking of is "-te mo ii" (I'm not sure I've seen -te ii) If thats the case...then this simply is asking if an action is allowable.

Tabete mo ii?
Is it ok to eat?

Tabete mo ii yo
Its ok to eat.

Matte mo ii?
Is it ok to wait?

At least thats what I think you are aiming for. But if you want to just say "Can you wait (for a little bit)?" I think maybe "chotto matte kuremasen ka" (a little unsure of this one) or maybe just "chotto matte kudasai"

Elizabeth · 26 Jun 2008

Kirakira1232 said:
Simply put, you use kureru/kudasai when making a specific request.

Matte kudasai/kureru
Could you please wait.

Can you wait for me?
(ちょっと待ってくれる？)

At least thats what I think you are aiming for. But if you want to just say "Can you wait (for a little bit)?" I think maybe "chotto matte kuremasen ka" (a little unsure of this one) or maybe just "chotto matte kudasai"

If I were going to ask them to wait a little longer what they may be used to, I would go with the more polite negative form "くれない？or くれませんか？"

せめてもう２0分待ってくれませんか
30分待ってくれませんか。

待ってください。Please wait.

待ってくれませんか？If you wouldn't mind, could you please wait for me ?

待ってもらえませんか？Would you mind please waiting for me ?

待っていただけませんか？If it's possible, could I ask you to please wait for me ?

Kirakira1232 · 27 Jun 2008

Elizabeth said:
Can you wait for me?
(ちょっと待ってくれる？)

If I were going to ask them to wait a little longer what they may be used to, I would go with the more polite negative form "くれない？or くれませんか？"

せめてもう２0分待ってくれませんか
30分待ってくれませんか。

待ってください。Please wait.

待ってくれませんか？If you wouldn't mind, could you please wait for me ?

待ってもらえませんか？Would you mind please waiting for me ?

待っていただけませんか？If it's possible, could I ask you to please wait for me ?

Thanks for that Elizabeth, I still get a bit mixed up when remembering the different levels of politeness from kure to itadakimasen lol. I'm starting to learn Honorific form right now and its....quite hard.

atpay · 27 Jun 2008

Charles Barkley said:
Can you give more context on the situation?

I wanted to say, "could you wait before depositing the money in the bank?" (I may need some of the money, so I need to see if I will need the money before you deposit it.)

銀行でお金を預金する前にちょっと待ってくれない？ちょっと待てって。

I always associate ていい With "can" But think that is more of Can I/ I can or you can。

So.
銀行で預金をする前にちょっと待っていい？Would mean is it okay if I wait a bit before going to the bank, Not could you wait a bit before going to the bank, right?

Thanks

Kirakira1232 said:
I think the other form your thinking of is "-te mo ii" (I'm not sure I've seen -te ii) If thats the case...then this simply is asking if an action is allowable.

Tabete mo ii?
Is it ok to eat?

Tabete mo ii yo
Its ok to eat.

Matte mo ii?
Is it ok to wait?

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You are right tabete mo ii and tabete ii are the same but mo is usually dropped and te ii is actually much more common. te mo ii is usually reserved for formal conversation.

Thanks for the tips!

Elizabeth said:

窶佚停?堙≫?堙??堋ｭ窶堋ｾ窶堋ｳ窶堋｢ﾂ。Please wait.
窶佚停?堙≫?堙??堋ｭ窶堙ｪ窶堙懌?堋ｹ窶堙ｱ窶堋ｩﾂ？If you wouldn't mind, could you please wait for me ?
窶佚停?堙≫?堙??堙?窶堙ｧ窶堋ｦ窶堙懌?堋ｹ窶堙ｱ窶堋ｩﾂ？Would you mind please waiting for me ?
窶佚停?堙≫?堙??堋｢窶堋ｽ窶堋ｾ窶堋ｯ窶堙懌?堋ｹ窶堙ｱ窶堋ｩﾂ？If it's possible, could I ask you to please wait for me ?

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Thanks for this! it really helps!

Toritoribe · 27 Jun 2008

atpay said:
銀行でお金を預金する前にちょっと待ってくれない？

It may sound like "銀行でお金を預金のをちょっと待ってくれない？; please reconsider to deposit the money in the bank."

ちょっと待って(くれない？) can also have the meaning of "please reconsider/rethink" in some contexts. So you might be better to say something like

銀行にお金預けてくるからちょっと待ってて/待っててくれない？
銀行にお金預けてくるまでちょっと待ってて/待っててくれない？
(*待ってて; the contraction of 待っていて)

hope this helps

Elizabeth · 27 Jun 2008

atpay said:
I wanted to say, "could you wait before depositing the money in the bank?" (I may need some of the money, so I need to see if I will need the money before you deposit it.)
銀行でお金を預金する前にちょっと待ってくれない？ちょっと待てって。
I always associate ていい With "can" But think that is more of Can I/ I can or you can。

It is closer to what should be used as "may" in English. But ていい also has other uses. And there are other words that can substitute for いい when asking permission, so it's best not to become too fixated on this particular pattern.

So.
銀行で預金をする前にちょっと待っていい？Would mean is it okay if I wait a bit before going to the bank, Not could you wait a bit before going to the bank, right?
Thanks

It can refer to him, her or I.

Also, isn't the particle normally に instead of で for depositing money ?
で is more like "at the bank" while に means basically "into your account."

銀行に預金をする前に :?

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