Grammar

[Sultan]

Those are opposite in meaning.

First one is the speaker thinks something is the case and the second one the speaker thinks the thing is not the case?

 

[Sultan]

ところが、今、日本では、若い人たちを中心に米を食べる人が減っていると聞きました 。ご飯を炊いておかずを作るより、パン、うどん、ラーメンなどの方が簡単に食べられるからでしょう。

I don't understand how ご飯を炊いておかず is connected with 作るより.
Does "炊いておかず" mean "without cooking ~"? Is adverber, verb, noun? Doesn't seem to me like noun so I can't understand how it became object with particle を before 作る.

 

[Sultan]

「ぼくがいいかげんな気持ちだったら、親がこの結婚に賛成してくれるわけがない。」
"I my feelings were halfhearted, my parents wouldn't support this marriage"?

 

[raikado]

I don't understand how ご飯を炊いておかず is connected with 作るより.
Does "炊いておかず" mean "without cooking ~"? Is adverber, verb, noun? Doesn't seem to me like noun so I can't understand how it became object with particle を before 作る.

It is ご飯を炊いて おかずを作るより
おかず is a noun: okazu · Tangorin Japanese Dictionary

 

[Sultan]

It is ご飯を炊いて おかずを作るより
おかず is a noun: okazu · Tangorin Japanese Dictionary

Now it makes sense, thank you

 

[Sultan]

秋はサケがたくさんとれる季節です。 from here
I think とれる here is intransitive verb "to be caught", not potential form of とる, "to catch".
Is it right?

 

[Mike Cash]

秋はサケがたくさんとれる季節です。 from here
I think とれる here is intransitive verb "to be caught", not potential form of とる, "to catch".
Is it right?

 

[Sultan]

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I still don't know the answer

 

[Mike Cash]

I still don't know the answer

「取ることが出来る」

Potential.

 

[Mike Cash]

Also, "to be caught" (passive) is とられる

 

[Sultan]

「取ることが出来る」

Potential.

Can't 1) 魚・鳥などが得られる。mean "fish or bird is caught"?
Can't 捕れる mean "to be caught" as separate intransitive verb, not potential form of 捕る?
At least here it says so.
"Autumn is a season when a lot of salmon is caught." sounds legit.

Also, "to be caught" (passive) is とられる

Yes but it doesn't have to be passive form of 捕る, if 捕れる can mean "to be caught"?

 

[Mike Cash]

Have it your way.

 

[Toritoribe]

First one is the speaker thinks something is the case and the second one the speaker thinks the thing is not the case?

Right. わかることなのではないだろうか is the affirmative presumption わかることだろう, whereas わかることなのではないだろう is the negative presumption わかることではないだろう. Incidentally, ないだろう？ is confirming it to the readers, just like "don't you think so?".

「ぼくがいいかげんな気持ちだったら、親がこの結婚に賛成してくれるわけがない。」
"I my feelings were halfhearted, my parents wouldn't support this marriage"?

Yes, but わけがない is more strong like "would never".

秋はサケがたくさんとれる季節です。 from here
I think とれる here is intransitive verb "to be caught", not potential form of とる, "to catch".
Is it right?

Sounds like the potential also to me.

 

[Sultan]

Right. わかることなのではないだろうか is the affirmative presumption わかることだろう, whereas わかることなのではないだろう is the negative presumption わかることではないだろう. Incidentally, ないだろう？ is confirming it to the readers, just like "don't you think so?".

ないだろう separately or like だろう with a negative clause/negative form of a word?

Yes, but わけがない is more strong like "would never".

I see.

Sounds like the potential also to me.

Well, somehow everyone I see thinks so. I'll leave it be, for now or whatever )

 

[Toritoribe]

ないだろう separately or like だろう with a negative clause/negative form of a word?

It's the latter; わかることなのではない + だろう for presumption.

 

[Sultan]

It's the latter; わかることなのではない + だろう for presumption.

I see. (Or maybe I'm lost, not sure )
チェックイン日、チェックアウト日
Is 日 read here as ひ, び, or maybe にち?

 

[Toritoribe]

It's び.

 

[Sultan]

How does 良いそうように怯える translate here and in what meaning is ように used? It might be "resemblance" but I'm not sure I get how they got frightened in such a way that it resembled "cuddling".

 

[Toritoribe]

寄りそうように
They got frightened in the state they were in close contact, as if "cuddling".

 

[Sultan]

寄りそうように
They got frightened in the state they were in close contact, as if "cuddling".

Sorry, a typo. So they first got frightened and as a result the came in close contact, as "if cuddling"?

 

[Mike Cash]

It might be more clear if you know it is a compound verb, 寄り添う. When it is written よりそう the 〜そう is easily confused for the suffix 〜そう.

 

[Sultan]

It might be more clear if you know it is a compound verb, 寄り添う. When it is written よりそう the 〜そう is easily confused for the suffix 〜そう.

Yeah, I got confused at first but then I cleared the misunderstanding. I'm asking because I got trouble with translating 寄りそうように怯える and with understanding ように in it.

 

[Toritoribe]

So they first got frightened and as a result the came in close contact, as "if cuddling"?

Yes. 寄りそうようにして/寄りそうような状態で怯える makes more sense, maybe? 寄りそうように shows their state, not the state of fear.

 

[Sultan]

Yes. 寄りそうようにして/寄りそうような状態で怯える makes more sense, maybe? 寄りそうように shows their state, not the state of fear.

I'm confused about order of actions and tense of 怯える. Let me ask the whole sentence.
言いわけがましくそちらを見ると、寄りそうように怯える女子生徒たちが。
Does it mean "When I looked there with an apologetic face, there were schoolgirls almost cuddling in fear"?
At first I thought it meant they got frightened as the result of him looking at them, but now I guess it means he looked at their direction he found them scared and close to each other, almost cuddling.

 

[Toritoribe]

Right. The girls got frightened, got up from their seats, and went to a corner of the classroom because he clicked his tongue, not "he looked at them".