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[Toritoribe]

所 means something like "the place where it exists".

ところ【所・処】
1 〔場所〕a place; 〔特定の〕a spot; 〔現場〕a scene; 〔所在地〕a seat
彼はドアの所に歩いて行った
He walked to the door.

所の英語・英訳 - goo辞書 英和和英

なら is more likely a topic marker, but yes, その子 is the subject in that sentence.

 

[Astralogic]

This is said by another random villager roaming around the town:
たきのほうへ いったひとたちが みんな かえってこないの. ばけものが いるって はなしよ. そういえば アカハナっていう ガメツイおっさんも たきへいったきり もどってこないわねえ.

My parse attempt:
滝の方へ行った人達が皆反ってこないの。化け物がいるって 話よ。そういえばアカハナっていうガメツイおっさんも 滝へ行ったきりもど戻ってこないわねえ。

And now my attempt at translation:
We all came from the direction of the waterfall and we won't go back, we hear there are monsters there. On that subject, a greedy middle aged man (or monk?) went to the waterfall and won't come back.

 

[Toritoribe]

帰ってこない
戻ってこない (もど is unnecessary.)

It's 人達, not 私達.
おっさん can't mean "monk". Monk is おしょうさん.
戻ってこない is not future. It means "haven't come back yet".

 

[raikado]

Also, isn't たきのほうへ いったひとたちが みんな かえってこないの not future too?

On a side note, I'm curious, is the speaker a girl?

 

[Astralogic]

On a side note, I'm curious, is the speaker a girl?

Yes the speaker is a girl.

It's 人達, not 私達.

I did write 人達 didn't I? :angelic:

Also, isn't たきのほうへいったひとたちが みんな かえってこないの not future too?

Take a look at my revised translation, if it's correct it may clear up your confusion, I just think of both those verbs as "non-past" tense, which included both present and future.

戻ってこない (もど is unnecessary.)

The もど before 戻 was a typo, sorry about that. I have to use an awkward online on-screen keyboard to type and parse Japanese text because my Windows IME has died.

滝の方へ行った人達が皆反ってこないの。化け物がいるって 話よ。そういえばアカハナっていうガメツイおっさんも滝へ行ったきり戻ってこないわねえ

I fluffed up! I'm always getting 行く and 来る mixed up
Another translation attempt:
Everyone that goes in the direction of the waterfall never comes back, we hear there are monsters there. On that subject a greedy middle aged man called Red Nose went to the waterfall and has not returned either.

 

[Toritoribe]

The speaker must be a woman rather than a girl because of わねえ.

I did write 人達 didn't I?

I'm talking about your translation. The translation of 人達 can't be "we" even if it's 滝の方から来た人達.

 

[Astralogic]

Ok, thanks, it all makes sense now.

An old man says this: このまちのうらないしはとてもよくあたるぞ!よくやすむってのがたまにきずだけど。
My parse attempt: この町の占師はとてもよく当たるぞ!よく休むってのが珠に疵だけど。

My only issues are with the last sentence. I know that 珠に疵 is an idiom meaning "flaw in the crystal/fly in the ointment", but よく休む is the difficult one, to rest well? It's just not making sense to me.

 

[Toritoribe]

やすむ【休む】
3 〔欠勤・欠席する〕be absent from, stay away from; 〔休暇をとる〕take a holiday; 〔店などが休む〕be closed
肉屋は今日は休んでいる
The butcher's is closed today.

休むの英語・英訳 - goo辞書 英和和英

 

[Astralogic]

Of course thanks,it's always obvious in the end hehe. 良く休む = frequently closed

I have found たまにきず written several different ways with different kanji, I assume there isn't one specifically correct way and people can just use whatever they feel like? That's the impression I get from seeing these various ways to write it.

 

[Toritoribe]

玉 means "gem/jewel" in this case, on the other hand 珠 is for pearl or ball.
瑕 is the same meaning as 傷, but this phrase is originally from a Chinese word 玉瑕, so 玉に瑕 is the correct kanji.
玉に瑕 - 故事ことわざ辞典

 

[Astralogic]

Thanks Toritoribe-san.

This sentence is said by the guard outside the queen's throne room.

じょうおうさまにごぶれいなきように。
女王様に御無礼なきように。

It's the なきように that's confusing me, I suspect something has been omitted from the end, some form of する perhaps. I think the き may be 気 since 無礼 is a な adjective. To me it looks like 女王様に御無礼な気ようにするな, "make sure you aren't rude to the queen."

Am I anywhere close?

 

[Toritoribe]

The translation is correct, but it's 女王様に御無礼なきようにしなさい.
なき is the attributive form of a classical adjective なし. Classical language is used to add solemn emphasis to the words. You can think it's 御無礼が/のないように in modern Japanese.
～するように/しないように is often used at the end of the sentence as an order to do/not to do, e.g., 明日までに宿題を提出するように / 芝生に入らないように.

 

[Astralogic]

Ok, that all makes sense, thanks.

One of the queens maids says this:
ちょっと じゃますんじゃないよっ！じょおうさまに おだしする りょうりのメニューを かんがえてんだから！
ちょっと邪魔すんじゃないよっ！女王様にお出しする料理のメニューを考えてんだから！

じょおう may be spelled wrong, but that's how they keep spelling it in the game.

The first thing that I can't work out is すん, is this a classical form of する?
Next is 考えて, it's confusing me because I would expect 考えている or some version of that form.

 

[lanthas]

じょおう is correct (furigana).

すんじゃない = するんじゃない
考えてんだ = 考えているんだ

Another one that's quite common is なにやってんだ！（何をやっているんですか！）Not classical, just abbreviated.

 

[Toritoribe]

Yeah, not classical, but colloquial/slangy. She uses rough speeches.

 

[Astralogic]

I see, thank you.

Another maid says this:
じょおうさまは ときどき へやから いなくなるの。だれにも きづかれずに どうやって でていかれるのかしら。
女王様は時々部屋からいなくなるの。だれにも気付かれずにどうやって出ていかれるのかしら。

The only part I'm having trouble understanding is だれにも, but I think the "with the best of them" meaning is being used.

 

[lanthas]

誰にも気付かれず: without being noticed by anyone (誰も for "anyone", with a に spliced in to indicate the agent of the passive verb)

 

[Astralogic]

Damn, that に really screwed me up, thanks.

This is the first part of what the queen says:
わらわが ポートアの じょおうなるぞえ。そなたかえ？サブレやまを こえてきたという でんせつの せんしは。。。
妾がポートアの女王なるぞえ。そなたかえ？サブレ山を越てきたという伝説の戦士は。。。

I don't quite know what to make of that なる, also is かえ a classical form of か?

 

[Toritoribe]

You can think なるぞ is the same as であるぞ.
Yes for かえ, and also ぞえ.

 

[Astralogic]

越えてきたという is confusinng me now, I've never seen という used with a verb before it, it's always been nouns. The only thing I can think of is it being used like "said to have", as in "the legendary warrior said to have come through Sabure Mountain."

 

[Toritoribe]

という shows that the preceding clause/phrase is hearsay there, thus, it adds the meaning "they say/I heard" to the modifying clause. So, yes, it means "the legendary warrior who is said to have come through Sabure Mountain".

 

[Astralogic]

Thanks, understood.

Thee very next thing the queen says is this: ここは平和すぎてわらわは退屈じゃ。わらわの話し相手になっておくれ。
I'm bored here, this pllace is too peaceful. Will you stay and talk?

I do find that last sentence tricky, I'm not sure it's right.

 

[Toritoribe]

おくれ is a gentle/tender imperative form of くれる, so yes, your interpretation is correct.

 

[Astralogic]

OK, thank you.

The queen then saays: 町の様子はどうじゃ？ポートアの美しさはわらわの誇りじゃ。好きなだけいるがいい。

How is this translation: How do you like the look of my town? Potoa's beauty is my pride. You may stay as long as you like.

It's that last sentence that confuses me the most.

 

[Astralogic]

Earlier Ianthas said <verb>がいい is closer to a threat than a suggestion. But I just don't see how it can be a threat.