Gaikokujin speaking regional dialect.

Ojanne

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I'm going to Osaka soon..

so, in the past few months I have been talking to Osaka-jins through skype to be able to 聞き取り Osaka-ben. I found myself now more comfortable with Osaka-ben than Hyoujungo.
And to be honest I really liked it, but what does Japanese people (in general/Osakans) think when they meet such a gaikokujin? should I convert back to Hyoujungo?
 
I'm going to Osaka soon..
so, in the past few months I have been talking to Osaka-jins through skype to be able to 聞き取り Osaka-ben. I found myself now more comfortable with Osaka-ben than Hyoujungo.
And to be honest I really liked it, but what does Japanese people (in general/Osakans) think when they meet such a gaikokujin? should I convert back to Hyoujungo? :?

I have seen a quite a few people who have learnt dialects and generally never felt any problem understanding them. Particular Oosaka dialect is well known dialect so, I am sure you will not have any problem communicating with people from the other parts of Japan.

I always liked that somewhat energetic and hyper sensation about Oosaka dialect, so very infectious that I always ended up coping their dialect...

Of cause, when it comes to less popular dialects, I might have to say something discouraging because some of the dialects are very different and hard to understand for non-locals but there is nothing negative about learning major one.
 
yeah, Osaka/kansai ben are understood by practically everyone, one reason being there are so many entertainers from that area. You shouldn't have any trouble getting the point across, regardless of where you are.
 
hmmm..I knew I would be understood but I meant the impression
まっ、Thanks for sharing your opinions.
 
Don't concern yourself with the impression you make. Japanese people are often pleasantly surprised when it's apparent that a foreigner has made an effort to learn their language. It won't really matter what dialect you use, although it'll say a little bit more about how/where/from whom you learned japanese.
 
Thanks (nice gaijin)san ^_^; .. by the way your avatar is funny (笑)
I'd be happy to see other opinions.
 
As a foreigner who only learned Kansai-ben after moving here (and subsequently small variations on it based on my region like Tajima-ben and Santo-ben), I find most people are simultaneously put at ease by it and amused that a foreigner is able to both understand and communicate in their dialect. I've found that the harder to understand Kansai dialects are most often found out in the country, and that even if you know regular Japanese, you may have NO CLUE what is coming out of the locals' mouths. The first time someone told me "hayo see ya," I had no idea what to do (it means hayaku shite yo)

That said, it's also important to retain your ability to speak proper Japanese. All my meetings are held in standard dialect, and class and everything else is done in Tajima-ben. But have fun with the language, and learning the differences between the dialects :)
 
..^_^
O_o;, who would say "hayo see ya" to a foreigner?! (わかるわけないやん!)
hmm...Thanks for sharing your opinion ^_^
 
In their defense, I'm of Japanese descent and often get 日本人みたい! so I'm not surprised they used it with me. It's also not the kind of language one would use when being concerned with the other person's feelings. Finally, since I work with elementary school kids with VERY little exposure to foreigners outside of mass media, the concept of using proper Japanese because I'm a foreigner is basically non-existent.

Still, hayo see ya wasn't as confusing as being told kontoite during a game of tag >_<;
 
I see.

Indeed, (kontoite) is unguessable for those who didn't study Kansai-ben >3<
 
In their defense, I'm of Japanese descent and often get 日本人みたい! so I'm not surprised they used it with me. It's also not the kind of language one would use when being concerned with the other person's feelings. Finally, since I work with elementary school kids with VERY little exposure to foreigners outside of mass media, the concept of using proper Japanese because I'm a foreigner is basically non-existent.
Still, hayo see ya wasn't as confusing as being told kontoite during a game of tag >_<;
Eh? If you are from Japanese decent no one should notice that you are actually from an English speaking country? Unless of course , you have a noticeable namari and the people around you are just gomakakashitenno?

And I disagree about not using it in regards to other peoples feelings, in fact ,even thinking about not using it is wrong.

And how do you do an English lesson in Tajima-ben? I didn't understand that.
 
And I disagree about not using it in regards to other peoples feelings, in fact ,even thinking about not using it is wrong.
Yeah, I thought the same, I use a less きつい version of it normally even when not angry.
And how do you do an English lesson in Tajima-ben?
When teaching kids, the teacher have to speak in an understandable way (for the students) which is Tajima-ben in his case.
Most teachers in my country spoke the 標準語 of Saudi Arabia because most of the students use it even those who actually speak my western dialect. (and it's funny when they get angry and revert to their real dialect)
 
Yeah, I thought the same, I use a less きつい version of it normally even when not angry.
Most teachers in my country spoke the 標準語 of Saudi Arabia because most of the students use it even those who actually speak my western dialect. (and it's funny when they get angry and revert to their real dialect)
Hold on a second, are you teaching English or Japanese here? I thought most companies don't allow the use of Japanese in classrooms?
 
Hold on a second, are you teaching English or Japanese here? I thought most companies don't allow the use of Japanese in classrooms?
MeAndrooさん is the one who teaches not me ^_^;
 
Eh? If you are from Japanese decent no one should notice that you are actually from an English speaking country? Unless ofcorse , you have a noticeable namari and the people around you are just gomakakashitenno?
And I disagree about not using it in regards to other peoples feelings, in fact ,even thinking about not using it is wrong.
And how do you do an English lesson in Tajima-ben? I didn't understand that.

I didn't think it was odd for foreigners of Asian descent to be spoken to in a manner different than those who are more visibly non-Japanese, regardless of their actual ability, particularly in situations when the one's "foreignness" is not universally known. For example, my taiko group treated me completely differently than the white guy in our group on our first days, even before they knew how much Japanese we spoke.

If I have one area of my Japanese that I'm confident in, it's my speaking and hearing. My writing and reading are god-awful. At the risk of tooting my own horn, all the work I put into properly pronouncing words and adopting the local dialect and speaking cadence allows the Japanese around me to speak at their normal rate and in the dialect they're comfortable in. It doesn't mean I understand everything, but they're not slowing down for me in meetings.

When I said a local dialect isn't the kind of language you use when concerned with another's feelings, it was more in reference to speaking in proper polite Japanese. Occasionally I'll have teachers use keigo with me when asking for favors or requesting a change. That's what I meant in terms of not using a dialect.

I work with elementary school children through JET. This means there's no dedicated Japanese English teacher and most of the homeroom teachers don't understand English. I'm also working with children as low as 1st grade, which means they have no background in English. Giving instructions, especially for the games, is basically impossible without using Japanese. I've found it easier to speak in the local dialect because it's faster and it's what the kids are used to. It also works that way with my junior eikaiwa (1st and 2nd graders).

My Board of Education offered no restriction regarding the use of Japanese. The one school that requests I keep my Japanese to a minimum has their music/home ec/band teacher accompany me to class (small school, only 3 classes a day) and act as the JTE while I operate solely in the ALT capacity. Obviously, having extra teachers makes the class go much more smoothly, but a separate JTE is not a luxury most ES's can afford, particularly in the countryside.

I do believe, however, that most JHS teachers are asked to keep their Japanese outside of the classroom. When I start adult English class next month, I believe I'll be making a similar attempt to speak only English.
 
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