Greenpeace Japan gets support from Japanese

See this and read carefully and exact, its from www.sciencedirect.com, and its long!:

It's not just poor science – Japan's ''scientific'' whaling may
be a human health risk too:

http://www.hsus.org/web-files/PDF/whale-meat-health-risks-article.pdf

in short:
Whale meat products from several species often contain pollutants such as PCBs, mercury, and dioxins, also found in research whaling meat.

and this:

Minamata disease - Wikipedia

Minamata disease (水俣病, Minamata-byō?), sometimes referred to as Chisso-Minamata disease (チッソ水俣病, Chisso-Minamata-byō?), is a neurological syndrome caused by severe mercury poisoning. Symptoms include ataxia, numbness in the hands and feet, general muscle weakness, narrowing of the field of vision and damage to hearing and speech. In extreme cases, insanity, paralysis, coma and death follow within weeks of the onset of symptoms. A congenital form of the disease can also affect fetuses in the womb.

:-(

It needs another thread and was touched as theme before already.
 
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my buttocks is bigger than easter. that is a fact. please explain why it is a fact instead of projecting links.
 
I did already. . . . .

and see this one on top of the section, please:

"Articles, statistical data and personal opinions"
 
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centrajapan

Your offensive rants just show that you're losing the plot.

You've said on another thread that being racist is a 'right.'

So accusing opposers of whaling of racism is not only a completely unjustified, obscene slur, it's also going against your own stated principles.
 
Well, I know that Greenpeace has at least some support in Japan: my Japanese partner abhors whaling and supports Greenpeace wholeheartedly :-)

As I've said before, I'm firmly convinced the whole whaling issue is being cynically used by the J-Gov to keep the J-media and public in the nationalistic camp.
 
Boohoo. Taiko666. You sound like one of those grumpy gaijins who is stuck in Japan but hates being in Japan therefore you are against whaling simply because the Japanese do it. If that is not racism then that word has no meaning.

It is no worse to eat whales than cows. This non event is becoming politicalised due to white folks imperialistic racist mind set.
 
Boohoo. Taiko666. You sound like one of those grumpy gaijins who is stuck in Japan but hates being in Japan therefore you are against whaling simply because the Japanese do it. If that is not racism then that word has no meaning.

centrajapan, you've just proved my point. As I knew you would! You think anti-whaling = anti-Japan. The J-Gov has harpooned you as surely as if you'd been a minke in a whale sanctuary.

Now please, centrajapan, make some valid points, not pointless speculation wrapped up in infantile insults.

Oh, and as my Japanese partner hates whaling, does that make her an honorary 'racist grumpy gaijin?'

It is no worse to eat whales than cows. This non event is becoming politicalised due to white folks imperialistic racist mind set.

*sigh* You've just harpooned yourself in the foot again.
 
why is it more wrong to kill whales than cows? i just dont understand that thinking. the minke whales are not endangered. a sustainable hunt of a natural renweable resources in the natural habitat is the most environmental friendly form of food production for human conspumption. energy is low in relation to yield the natural habitat remains unaffected. there are no fertilizers or pesticides.

whale meat is ecological and energy efficient. anti whalers are stuck in the 70s with their out dated arguments.

you still sound like one those grumpy gaijins though. very racist.
 
whale meat is ecological and energy efficient. anti whalers are stuck in the 70s with their out dated arguments.

What a bad joke, its not a all efficient, its proven dangerous!
You obviously did not read the science report with plenty examples, or you prefer to stay blind.
What that has to do with the 70ties, is beyond my understandings.
The science report for example is from 2006, and a new one is sure on the way and not much different.
 
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What a bad joke, its not a all efficient, its proven dangerous!

What whale speicies what part of the whale? Mercury varies from each whale and what part of the whale and from different whale speicies and where the whale has been swimming. You simply cannot say there is mercury in whales.
There is no such thing as a whale but many different whale speicies.

Thinking about all the mercury initself is worse and will probably lead to stress which is even worse.

However. The mercury debate is a different debate to why Japan should or should nothunt whales. It is up to Japan to decide if they want to hunt whales. And then this should be a debate among Japanese people and scientists and other scientists among people who eat whales. Greenlanders eat alot of whales and it is said that traditional Greenland food is healthy. Icelanders live longer than most EUropeans and they eat whale too and it also happens to be the country in the world with the highest standard of living in the world.

If there is mercury in whales and in all sea food then this is an issue which needs further reseacrh. There is mercury in all sea food as there is organic mercury. It is not possible to not have any mercury it is more how much mercury is dangerous is what the scientists are discussing.
 
I suggest, that you read the report, its done already. . .which includes japanese research whaling meat. . .for example 200% above accepted contains of toxics.

Some koreans lately had to face a police raid concerning packed whale meat in supermarkets etc., in general.
Reason: dangerous and forbidden meat.
Some wake up.
 
In addition to some former infos, based on the science article above:
http://www.hsus.org/marine_mammals/...ling/human_health_concerns_of_whale_meat.html
Human Health Concerns of Whale Meat
There is no doubt that whaling isn't good for whales. What most people don't know—and what pro-whaling nations such as Japan and Norway don't want to consider—is that eating whale meat may be a human health hazard.
Top of the Food Chain Marine Pollution Bulletin
"It's not just poor science—Japan's 'scientific' whaling may be a human health risk too." Article by E.C.M. Parsons; published in Marine Pollution Bulletin, 2006. Download in PDF.
Pro-whaling nations insist that whale meat is healthier than beef. But the truth is that whales are particularly vulnerable to environmental contaminants, including organochlorines—such as polychlorinated biphenyl (PCBs), dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT) and dioxin—and heavy metals, such as methylmercury.
Each of these environmental contaminants tends to accumulate in the bodies of top predators, including sperm whales, orcas, pilot whales, and false killer whales. For these animals, each step up the food chain results in a greater concentration of these poisons in fewer and fewer individuals.
In some whale species, contaminants have been found in blubber at levels far in excess of what is considered safe. The most contaminated whale meat has come from those species that are fish or mammal eaters such as dolphins, porpoises, sperm whales, and beaked whales.
Baleen whales, such as minkes, feed lower on the food chain. As a result, their tissues generally contain lower levels of contaminants. Nonetheless, tests of the blubber of minke whales from the north Pacific have shown unsafe levels of pesticides and PCBs.
Effects on Humans
Whale meat or blubber is consumed in Norway, Japan, some Caribbean nations, Russia, Canada, and the state of Alaska—either for subsistence, cultural, or commercial reasons. A few aboriginal cultures rely heavily on whale meat as a source of protein, while others consume only small amounts commercially.
Although not dependent on it as a source of protein, the Japanese are one of the world's largest consumers of whale meat. In Japanese markets, generic whale meat or "kujira" is said to come from the minke whales killed as part of the so-called scientific whaling program. This meat should contain relatively low levels of contaminants. However, tests have shown that not all kujira is minke whale meat. Some of it is dolphin, porpoise, or beaked whale meat. People who eat kujira, thinking they are avoiding unsafe levels of contaminants, may in fact be eating meat that contains very high levels of toxic substances.
The effects of environmental contaminants in humans are serious. PCBs can cause neurotoxicity (nerve damage), reproductive (hey, men, its said, less sperm etc! C.) and developmental disorders, immune system suppression, liver damage, skin irritation, and endocrine disruption. DDT exposure is associated with certain cancer risks and neurological and reproductive disorders. Dioxins, among the most toxic substances known, can cause cancer, metabolic dysfunction, and immune system disorders. Methylmercury consumption can cause neurological and developmental problems. The contaminants are often highly concentrated in blubber because they are lipophilic, meaning they bond easily and even preferentially to fat.
Relying on whale meat as a source of protein is not just dangerous for adults, it may also be unhealthy for their future offspring. One study of Faroe Islanders detected developmental disorders in children with prenatal exposure to PCBs, children whose mothers consumed pilot whale meat and blubber regularly during pregnancy—versus those without exposure to PCBs, whose mothers did not consume pilot whale meat and blubber or consumed them in very small quantities during pregnancy. In addition, some Inuit communities in the Canadian and Alaskan Arctic—where mothers regularly consume beluga whale meat and blubber (as well as meat from bowhead whales, seals, and polar bears)—have detected health problems in children who were exposed to contaminants in utero and through breast milk.
Whales no longer live in a pristine environment; we have polluted their habitat with poisons that concentrate in their tissues. Regardless of the amount, the consumption of whale meat can expose humans to dangerous contaminants.
 
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Although the article is way out of proportion considering how much and how whales are consumed in Japan, I'm not against using safety concern as an argument to discourage Japanese people from eating whales. After all, Japanese are very sensitive about food safety.

In fact, if Greenpeace were to just focus their propaganda on how dangerous whale meats are and give up their unwelcomed media stunts, I think they would be much more effective and persuasive in dampening the enthusiam to eat whales in Japan. But of course such a low profile campaign won't bring in as much money...
 
Greenpeace does mention the health aspect, and did for long, same with other organisations.
Its just, that the whalers prefer to distract this all the time, in order to get their often ridiculous and antique racist etc. points through and sell their meat.. . .and also that is wellknown in the international press and does not have to be repeated all the time. But once you do research about it, you find more than enough. Thats for instance, where the Asbest (selling) relation example comes from. . .not so far from the truth indeed. . .
The facts, that many people in the world care a lot about their japanese friends and families and children, also makes them very opposed to the whole campaign, and they are all as far as can be from any racist or whatsoever made up argument.
Under this light, there are no stunts, but very well thought of actions, if others are not heard or willingly ignored by pro whalers, in order to make money from whaling, even if Japan and other nations will be suffering under the consequences.

Watchers are not blind, many even watch, BECAUSE they care for and LOVE Japan!
 
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why is it more wrong to kill whales than cows?

Sorry, I wasn't referring to the above quote.

this non event is becoming politicalised due to white folks imperialistic racist mind set.

This quote was the ridiculous one.

The cows/whales issue is of course a valid point for debate, and as you can see, several people are happy to discuss it with you... but...

you still sound like one those grumpy gaijins though. very racist.

...it really is time you dropped this offensive line of attack.
 
Greenpeace does mention the health aspect, and did for long, same with other organisations.

Well, first of all, health argument is not compelling enough to argue. That's why it hasn't become a major issue in whaling debate. If it really is as bad as some anti-whaling organizations try to portray, they are golden. There is no market in the world that is more sensitive to food safety than Japan.

For example, Japanese test every single cattle for BSE and track beef marketed in Japan. People are overly scared of imported Chinese food. If anti-whalers have scientifically compelling data to prove that whale meat is more dangeous than tuna sashimis, they have no need to resort to media stunts. Japanese will stop eating whales like they stopped buying American beef after the mad cow debacle.

If they have a case, that is...

The facts, that many people in the world care a lot about their japanese friends and families and children, also makes them very opposed to the whole campaign, and they are all as far as can be from any racist or whatsoever made up argument.

That's laughable. Any idiot can sense that Greenpeace, Sea Shepard, and most people in this forum care far more about whales than Japanese. Don't need to pretend to be a saint.
 
Well, first of all, health argument is not compelling enough to argue. That's why it hasn't become a major issue in whaling debate. If it really is as bad as some anti-whaling organizations try to portray, they are golden. There is no market in the world that is more sensitive to food safety than Japan.

Not true, because it was clearly ignored. I once more suggest, that some read the according article from sciencedirect, before writing this. I am 100% sure, you didn't.
Also, the last year, according to such informations, the official message was given out once more, in that case concerning dolphins as well as whales. Even from Taiji came the informations, that the meat was not bought or sold anymore and immediately taken out of schools and markets. If you wish, I can provide with the according link.
See the next post. . . .
It has been said before, and you once more ignored it, the very same way, others ignored the information. Do not say, it was not said nor written!
This may explain, which way it really goes, and who cares and who does not by ignoring.
We also had bad meat here (not whales and dolphins though), and had according trials even, but it took some time to find its place and judge. But then it was a big issue. Some wheels run slow, to avoid unnecessary panic. But they run, and sooner or later the truth does come through. You also may remember the BSE case hereabout.
At first, some humans had to become seriously ill too, before actions were taken. . .

For example, Japanese test every single cattle for BSE and track beef marketed in Japan. People are overly scared of imported Chinese food. If anti-whalers have scientifically compelling data to prove that whale meat is more dangeous than tuna sashimis, they have no need to resort to media stunts. Japanese will stop eating whales like they stopped buying American beef after the mad cow debacle.

If they have a case, that is...

See above. We did the first work about BSE before you, its easy then for Japan. As for the whale and dolphin meat, Japan is the first one to take action here.
And some do already (last year, around Taiji, as mentioned).

That's laughable. Any idiot can sense that Greenpeace, Sea Shepard, and most people in this forum care far more about whales than Japanese. Don't need to pretend to be a saint.

Its up to you to laugh about what you don't wish to understand. Its many facts, that come together. And no one pretends to be a saint, thats what you project. I am doing nothing but reminding on some important aspects like about already out of date "asbestos".
(It as much took years, until a law was even made to forbid to use this after lots of pros and antis. Nothing new.)

If loving and caring for my friends is something for you to laugh about, I feel very sorrry for you indeed. And I am not even Greenpeace, who sure also has similar reasons involved, the toxic is very well also mentioned there for long, it never dissappeared, by the way, to be even more correct..also repeated any times (and why should they not care about whales themselves? I see nothing wrong about this either)
I would thus probably not wish to stop you from eating that poison, why should I care, if you so dearly wish to be poisoned and damage your sperms etc.? Thats really not my problem. Do as you like, but don't you ever say again, you did not know.
 
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