USA the biggest threat to world peace.

[scorpion da black]

USA isnt the only country contributing to world terror and instability as some say and some refuse to acknoledge..........

but it is certanly one of the biggest contributers to terror and instability...
just read any statistic.........USA waged more wars in the latest 100 years then most nations combined....
and the same group of people are still rulingthe US, they are called the new conservetors, the hawks of the wight house...... they cant claim all their wars was to bring peace...
they shreded peace by waging wars that are motivated primarly by greed...

 

[centrajapan]

We have luxuries and other places can't stand it. Other countries want what we have and they can't.

I don't blame US for every single tragedy in this world but with no joking aside. I believe you have to be American to say something as stupid as this.

Americans are brainwashed from birth in believing US is the greatest country on earth. It's the education. What other country sings the national anthem as often as Americans do? Probbaly not even North Korea. US has a very dark depressing history on how they killed all the native people of USA then they dropped the A-Bomb. The only country to have done that and in the education they teach that they had to. After that they have been at war more than any other country on this planet. Americans choose their leaders.

 

[Pachipro]

Americans choose their leaders.

Not any more! Nor do I think we ever did with ballot stuffing and all.

I am looking forward to a change in our government next year when we elect a new president.

Change we will have. You can be sure of it. The sad part is the illusion many people have in that "we" actually elect our president. The only reason for the campaigns and primaries is to see which person the American public is more gullible in believing and a succesor is selected by the "committee of they". The media also do their part (since they are owned by "The Committee of They") to put into the minds of the gullible public the person that has already been selected and should win. This is done with false polls, seven second sound bites and other bs and the public usually falls for it. If the truth be told, it would be widely known that it is Ron Paul who actually holds the lead, but since he is not an insider, you will never hear his name mentioned even though he is in every debate and has won every one according to the internet.

We will get a president who "they" feel the American public is gullible enough to believe that an American Union and new currency is worthwhile and needed because of the death of the dollar and millions losing their homes, and that all illegal aliens in the US need to be given amnesty.
In 2001 it was decided (by "them") that Bush would be the president and when it turned out the public selected Gore "they" were stunned, caught off guard, and put into motion the supreme court to make Bush the president when it was Gore who actually won. What more proof do you need? In 8 months we were "attacked" and were at war 6 months later taking over the worlds second largest oil supply as was previously planned. Does anyone believe Gore would have been able to implement the Patriot Act with a Republican Congress? Not on your life.

With all the new programable electronic voting booths with absolutely no paper trail, we will get the president they want us to get and nothing more. (As was printed (and that can be BS also), Diebold, the manufacturer of the voting booths proclamed to Bush in 2004, "we will give you the presidency.") You can view a video produced by Princeton University on How to Steal Elections here. Another link. By the way, FYI, Diebold machines were used in Iraq for their "election"

Go ahead and vote if you want, but it absolutely means nothing anymore these days. Even though I will vote for Ron Paul he'll never win, but I'll be damned if I'll give my vote to a Demopublican or Republicrat.

 

[centrajapan]

If I was American I'd vote Ron Paul.

 

[Hezam]

yes...it's the right way to choose your presidnt and your future ...

i agree with that ..

 

[Sarapva]

Change we will have. You can be sure of it. The sad part is the illusion many people have in that "we" actually elect our president.

In 2001 it was decided (by "them") that Bush would be the president and when it turned out the public selected Gore "they" were stunned, caught off guard, and put into motion the supreme court to make Bush the president when it was Gore who actually won. ... In 8 months we were "attacked" and were at war 6 months later...

Yes, this is what I'd like the rest of the world to understand - Bush didn't get in by the majority vote in 2000. Most Americans voted for Al Gore. On Sept. 11, 2001 my first instinctive thought was that this wouldn't have happened if Bush hadn't become president. He won the second election because of the "fear factor", I think - probably told to us by the media that when a country is in a war you shouldn't change presidents. I didn't vote for him either time.

 

[Hezam]

Yes, this is what I'd like the rest of the world to understand - Bush didn't get in by the majority vote in 2000. Most Americans voted for Al Gore. On Sept. 11, 2001 my first instinctive thought was that this wouldn't have happened if Bush hadn't become president. He won the second election because of the "fear factor", I think - probably told to us by the media that when a country is in a war you shouldn't change presidents. I didn't vote for him either time

Sarapva san : Arabs don't know that ..please if you can tell me how many people

voted for Bush and Al Gor ...I must tell my friends and all Aabic Forums to make them

understand American people are not bad as the Government

and i hope you say some words to Arabs people then i will tell them what do American

people feel to thier government ....that what i want to help American people ...........

Best wishes
Hezam ^^

 

[Haruspex]

Tsk. That's BS. Other countries hate us because we have the best and always have.
We have luxuries and other places can't stand it. Other countries want what we have and they can't.

Honestly, Im not against the us, I don't hate it or anything... but this message made me laugh. As centrajapan pointed it out very correctly, this is utter BS.
First of all, there's no one talking about commonwealth, really, no one is.
Second, if I were given the chance to find a country to spend my life in a peaceful manner (not necessarily interesting, intense or anything, but generally on a high social level) I wouldn't even think of choosing the USA, I would probably choose a Scandinavian or Benelux country. Not that I have anything against the USA, and im not saying that I wouldn't want to visit the US someday, but that statement above is BOASTFUL. Obviously what I did is wrong as well, since countries can't be simply compared to each other, but I felt like doing it after reading that ignorant statement.
All in all one thing is for certain, Amazon has one day super saver shipping in the US, so if it wasn't for being socially secure and stuff, I would choose to live in there, especially now that the worth of dollar sank to unbelievable depths. Go go Amazon.com!!
Even though I don't have anything against the US, I have to say that they better prepare because China will be claiming their markets soon, and with the EU growing, we're taking our markets back. So GG, that luxury you have in your mind might be a bit fragile.

 

[centrajapan]

As much anti American political rant I come up with, I have to say there are many great things about USA. US has contributed so much positivity. It has given the world great music, art, ideologies, great people etc however it is not only positive.

 

[Sarapva]

Sarapva san : Arabs don't know that ..please if you can tell me how many people
voted for Bush and Al Gor ...I must tell my friends and all Aabic Forums to make them
understand American people are not bad as the Government
and i hope you say some words to Arabs people then i will tell them what do American
people feel to thier government ....that what i want to help American people ...........
Best wishes
Hezam ^^

Thank you, Carlos - I'll look for some statistics that I can send you and maybe some information about what the facts were during both elections. Yes, the majority definitely voted for Al Gore in 2000 - it was just by the power of the rich who wanted Bush to become president that they were able to destroy some votes and make it look like Bush had won. Give me a little time and I will PM you some information! - Sara

centrajapan - Thank you for balancing the anti-American feelings with some positive!

 

[Haruspex]

As much anti American political rant I come up with, I have to say there are many great things about USA. US has contributed so much positivity. It has given the world great music, art, ideologies, great people etc however it is not only positive.

Lol yeah but you're probably not drooling with a rabid look on your face waiting for an opportunity to mug Americans somehow and claim their wealth, are you? Obviously there are many great American things, but America isn't the only country worth living in lol, I wouldn't even say something like this, because its obvious to me, but when I read that "You're all jealous!!wtfoneone114" drama I seriously couldn't decide whether I should beat my head against the wall, cry, laugh, or simply stare at the ceiling with an amazed look suggesting something like this: "Woooow, what a simple way of thinking...".
In the end I just decided to laugh lol. It was the best decision, its not worth breaking my head for such trifle stuff.

 

[scorpion da black]

jealous of America????? ☝ :?:?

that is like the funniest most immature, ignorant, narrow minded thing i ever read.

first we all have great sense of patriotism in us, we love our countries.
if America would let us be and mind its own business we would even make a nation as great ......

plus """""hello""""" this is J-ref .......we all love japan...this the country we are jealous of......i wish every country would look more like japan, including my own.
"we are jealous of japan "

 

[Haruspex]

jealous of America????? ☝ :?:?
that is like the funniest most immature, ignorant, narrow minded thing i ever read.
first we all have great sense of patriotism in us, we love our countries.
if America would let us be and mind its own business we would even make a nation as great ......
plus """""hello""""" this is J-ref .......we all love japan...this the country we are jealous of......i wish every country would look more like japan, including my own.
"we are jealous of japan "

Im not jealous of anyone, im simply interested in Japan, on the other hand I don't have a trace of patriotism in me
On the other hand, If I were without inheritance and someone offered me an American green card I would accept it without much thinking, but since I have stuff to inherit, im not applying for a green card, its because this and not because I feel so attached to my country hehe

 

[centrajapan]

Iraq's war has been a catastrophy and so has the war in Afghanistan. bin Laden bombed New York there is even controversy surrounding that incident. They go to Afghanistan to catch bin Laden. They tell him that he is dead or is he? They start nation building in Afghanistan. A nation which previosuly was run by Taliban who used to get money from US to fight their proxy wars. US is nowtrying to secure new US bases in central Asia and Middle East so that they can gain more control over the natural resources. bin Laden is not important any longer. The Bush administration design is everything for a profit. Weapon manufacturers, contractors, oil comanies.

 

[Sarapva]

In response to Carlos Santana's question, this is the results of the 2000 U.S. presidential election. Al Gore won the popular vote by a half million votes. But Bush won more EV (electoral votes), which are based on percentages of people in states - it's complicated. I'm still searching for information and will PM with more. It was a close race, but there were votes in Florida that were thrown out because of old voting methods.


PRESIDENT EV States Won Vote % Votes

BUSH 271 30 48% 50,456,169
GORE 266 21 48% 50,996,116

Sorry - I've tried to get the columns straight. The last number is the popular vote.

 

[Mikawa Ossan]

Slightly off topic...

Yes, the people of the United States do not directly elect the president. The electoral college is the intermediary step which directly elects the president. Originally, the founders of the US believed that the people were not sufficiently cultured or educated or what have you to directly elect the highest office in the land, so instead they devised a system where people elected a kind of "council of elders" to elect the president for them. This is the electoral college.

The number of votes each state receives in the electoral college derives from a simple formula: # of senators + # of representatives in Congress. Therefore each state has a minimum of three votes in the electoral college (because every state has two senators and at least one representative).

As the electoral college works today, every member of a given state's electoral college delegation votes for the candidate which won the popular vote in the state they represent. In theory members of the electoral college generally can vote for whomever they wish; however, some states have enacted laws which forbid delegates from casting their vote to anyone but the winner of that state's popular vote, and tradition and public sentiment on this point are so strong that it rarely happens that a delegate bucks the popular vote.

I beleive that in a bid to make the system more accurate vis a vis the general vote, a movement has started in several states to split the electoral vote based on the proportion of the popular vote won by each candidate. I don't know of the top of my head if any state has enacted such a law yet, however.

This is how I remember being taught in Middle school.

 

[Sarapva]

You paid more attention in school than I did, MO! Thanks for that explanation. I think it also has to do with the population of each state (which also decides how many representatives). I don't know either if any state has enacted the law to base the electoral vote on the popular vote yet. I know that voting methods are being scrutinized and changed in a lot of places after Florida's mix up in 2000 (where they used paper and hole punches for people to vote - some couldn't be read and there was a recount, and I think it took a couple of months before we knew who the next president would be).

These are a couple of links I've found about the 2000 election - the first is from CNN and has the total votes for Bush and Gore, and the second is from BBC which describes pretty clearly what happened then.

CNN/AllPolitics.com - Election 2000 Archive

h2g2 - The US Presidential Election 2000 - A Democrat's Perspective - Edited Entry

I think the 2000 election was the first time a president has won who didn't have the popular vote (which is why the electoral college really needs to be re-thought).

 

[centrajapan]

I can't believe 48% voted Bush. This guy is one stupid dude. Not once but twice. The war on terror in the Middle East to spread freedumb and democracy.

Mandela is dead according to Bush.



US isnt the biggest threat to world peace, stupidity is.

 

[Sarapva]

Bush got a lot of Christian fundamentalist votes, again based on fear. I also couldn't believe that so many Americans voted for him, but I think this is the explanation. The fundamentalists ("fire and brimstone", going to hell if you don't do certain things) were afraid not to vote for him.

 

[Hezam]

Sarapva san : thank you very much for the Messages ...I am translate them to Arabic
languege and i told the Admin of the Arabic forum ( that i one member in ) and he was
happy to hear that ...I am writing a thread for your Messages to Arab people and i still
translate them..I understan your feeling and your mind ^^ you are one of the good
people in this world ...we, Together will build a stronge friendship between US people
and Arab people to keep the peace in the world ..

thanks from all my heart ...
Hezam

 

[Sarapva]

Sarapva san : thank you very much for the Messages ...I am translate them to Arabic
languege and i told the Admin of the Arabic forum ( that i one member in ) and he was
happy to hear that ...I am writing a thread for your Messages to Arab people and i still
translate them..I understan your feeling and your mind ^^ you are one of the good
people in this world ...we, Together will build a stronge friendship between US people
and Arab people to keep the peace in the world ..
thanks from all my heart ...
Hezam

I'm very happy to do this, and glad you can translate them so the Arab people can understand. Thank you for taking the trouble! Yes, we can communicate and promote understanding and peace between our countries no matter what our governments are doing, so we can understand that we're all just people who want peace.

 

[Doc]

Americans are brainwashed from birth in believing US is the greatest country on earth. It's the education. What other country sings the national anthem as often as Americans do? Probbaly not even North Korea. US has a very dark depressing history on how they killed all the native people of USA then they dropped the A-Bomb. The only country to have done that and in the education they teach that they had to. After that they have been at war more than any other country on this planet. Americans choose their leaders.

But waving your flag in your country and everyone else's face, having a love for your culture and society, and spouting good things about your own heritage over everyone else's is okay? Thank you for that double standard. I'll remember that so I will never buy an American flag or hang it ever again in my country, and to burn one every time I see it.

Not any more! Nor do I think we ever did with ballot stuffing and all.
Change we will have. You can be sure of it. The sad part is the illusion many people have in that "we" actually elect our president. The only reason for the campaigns and primaries is to see which person the American public is more gullible in believing and a successor is selected by the "committee of they". The media also do their part (since they are owned by "The Committee of They") to put into the minds of the gullible public the person that has already been selected and should win. This is done with false polls, seven second sound bites and other bs and the public usually falls for it. If the truth be told, it would be widely known that it is Ron Paul who actually holds the lead, but since he is not an insider, you will never hear his name mentioned even though he is in every debate and has won every one according to the internet.
We will get a president who "they" feel the American public is gullible enough to believe that an American Union and new currency is worthwhile and needed because of the death of the dollar and millions losing their homes, and that all illegal aliens in the US need to be given amnesty.
In 2001 it was decided (by "them") that Bush would be the president and when it turned out the public selected Gore "they" were stunned, caught off guard, and put into motion the supreme court to make Bush the president when it was Gore who actually won. What more proof do you need? In 8 months we were "attacked" and were at war 6 months later taking over the worlds second largest oil supply as was previously planned. Does anyone believe Gore would have been able to implement the Patriot Act with a Republican Congress? Not on your life.
With all the new programmable electronic voting booths with absolutely no paper trail, we will get the president they want us to get and nothing more. (As was printed (and that can be BS also), Diebold, the manufacturer of the voting booths proclaimed to Bush in 2004, "we will give you the presidency.") You can view a video produced by Princeton University on How to Steal Elections here. Another link. By the way, FYI, Diebold machines were used in Iraq for their "election"
Go ahead and vote if you want, but it absolutely means nothing anymore these days. Even though I will vote for Ron Paul he'll never win, but I'll be damned if I'll give my vote to a Demopublican or Republicrat.

☝

You and I need to have a serious discussion outside of this forum my friend. You seriously just insulted my intelligence as a scholar with all of that stuff.

Honestly, Im not against the us, I don't hate it or anything... but this message made me laugh. As centrajapan pointed it out very correctly, this is utter BS.
First of all, there's no one talking about commonwealth, really, no one is.
Second, if I were given the chance to find a country to spend my life in a peaceful manner (not necessarily interesting, intense or anything, but generally on a high social level) I wouldn't even think of choosing the USA, I would probably choose a Scandinavian or Benelux country. Not that I have anything against the USA, and im not saying that I wouldn't want to visit the US someday, but that statement above is BOASTFUL. Obviously what I did is wrong as well, since countries can't be simply compared to each other, but I felt like doing it after reading that ignorant statement.
All in all one thing is for certain, Amazon has one day super saver shipping in the US, so if it wasn't for being socially secure and stuff, I would choose to live in there, especially now that the worth of dollar sank to unbelievable depths. Go go Amazon.com!!
Even though I don't have anything against the US, I have to say that they better prepare because China will be claiming their markets soon, and with the EU growing, we're taking our markets back. So GG, that luxury you have in your mind might be a bit fragile.

Just remember we're not the only ones the communists are going to want to kill in the end. I suggest putting a dog collar on now, and start barking and bowing to your soon-to-be Chinese overlords now. ;-)

Oh, and I wouldn't talk about the EU being so rosy. You guys have just as many problems as we do right now, if not more so. The fact of the matter is that too many people pay attention to BBC and CNN to know the difference.

Oh and with the value of the US dollar dropping,that's actually good for us right now. Do you know why? It is because we are now starting to export more goods than China, since our goods are now cheaper. Which means our economy goes up in the end. Currency is a double-edged sword, so remember that. For every negative action in the short-term, there is a positive reaction in the longer term. It all depends on how you play the game. If anything invest in gold. That way it's a win/win for you in the end.

US has contributed so much positivity. It has given the world great music, art, ideologies, great people etc however it is not only positive.

As well as, the degradation of human society as a whole with said garbage. Seriously, I wouldn't hold anything that our entertainment industries have created on a pedestal.

Yes, the people of the United States do not directly elect the president. The electoral college is the intermediary step which directly elects the president. Originally, the founders of the US believed that the people were not sufficiently cultured or educated or what have you to directly elect the highest office in the land, so instead they devised a system where people elected a kind of "council of elders" to elect the president for them. This is the electoral college.
The number of votes each state receives in the electoral college derives from a simple formula: # of senators + # of representatives in Congress. Therefore each state has a minimum of three votes in the electoral college (because every state has two senators and at least one representative).
As the electoral college works today, every member of a given state's electoral college delegation votes for the candidate which won the popular vote in the state they represent. In theory members of the electoral college generally can vote for whomever they wish; however, some states have enacted laws which forbid delegates from casting their vote to anyone but the winner of that state's popular vote, and tradition and public sentiment on this point are so strong that it rarely happens that a delegate bucks the popular vote.
I believe that in a bid to make the system more accurate vis a vis the general vote, a movement has started in several states to split the electoral vote based on the proportion of the popular vote won by each candidate. I don't know of the top of my head if any state has enacted such a law yet, however.
This is how I remember being taught in Middle school.

At least somebody paid attention in school during the US Government section.

I think the 2000 election was the first time a president has won who didn't have the popular vote (which is why the electoral college really needs to be re-thought).

Wrong. It was the third election in our nation's history where a candidate won without needing the majority of the popular vote.

Bush got a lot of Christian fundamentalist votes, again based on fear. I also couldn't believe that so many Americans voted for him, but I think this is the explanation. The fundamentalists ("fire and brimstone", going to hell if you don't do certain things) were afraid not to vote for him.

The fundamentalist vote is a slim minority in this country. "Fire and brimstone" tactics were not the thing that got GWB elected. Supposedly, it was the promise of tax cuts among other "conservative" based principles for our economy that got him elected. In other words, he was favored highly among conservatives in that regard in which the electoral college swung the vote in his favor. In reality, he was nothing more than a tool that the deep pockets wanted in office. It really is too bad that GWB didn't keep his promises since Congress and the White House spend more money in pork than a $20 hooker does on shoes. Then again that is the nature of politics and corruption.

 

[Pachipro]

Even though I will vote for Ron Paul he'll never win, but I'll be damned if I'll give my vote to a Demopublican or Republicrat.

He'll never win because he doesn't play the game and, like the othe candidates, is not owned by any corporation or depends on them for his campaign contributions.

Ron Paul Beats Own Fund Raising Record

Yesterday, Ron Paul, the Republican congressman whose rock star status on the Internet has singlehandedly fueled his campaign, broke that record, raising nearly $6 million in 24 hours.

On Nov. 5, which was Guy Fawkes Day, a symbol of rebellion in British history, Paul hauled in $4.3 million in 24 hours. And yesterday, the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, the day that helped spark the American Revolution, Paul's Web-savvy, intensely loyal supporters completed another "money-bomb," raising nearly $6 million from more than 50,000 donors, half of whom were new donors. With 14 days left in the fourth quarter, the Texas Republican has amassed more than $17.5 million.
"This is exciting. It's crazy. I can't imagine any other Republican raising this kind of money this quarter. This means Ron Paul's message is really resonating with people..."

Glad I helped! Go Ron Go! Too bad it was only a one liner on the TV news. If any other candidate had done this it would be shouted from the roof tops and been the headline news for days and that candidate would have catapulted to the tops of the polls. Alas, such is not the case. So much for a free and honest press. As I said, we will get the candidate they want us to get and nothing more.

One person says it will be McCain/Gulianni and Hillary Clinton/Edwards. I believe that person. Let's see.

You and I need to have a serious discussion outside of this forum my friend. You seriously just insulted my intelligence as a scholar with all of that stuff.

Glad to discuss with you anytime Doc. It's all out there (for now) for those that seek the real truth.

Oh and with the value of the US dollar dropping,that's actually good for us right now. Do you know why? It is because we are now starting to export more goods than China, since our goods are now cheaper. Which means our economy goes up in the end.

Pray tell, what in God's good name is the US exporting anymore that amounts to anything? Movies? Porno? Beer/alcohol? What real goods do we export anymore. Can you, or anyone, please tell me?

Machine tools? Nope, all imported from China.

Textiles? Nope, nearly all imported from China, Asia, or South America! Look at your suits

TV's, cell phones, DVR's, or other electronics? Nope, we all know where they come from.

Ammunition for the US military? Nope, made mostly in China or other foreign countries. Cheaper

Cars? Many parts are manufactured in Canada or Mexico and shipped to the US for assembly, but more and more "US" cars are being made in Canada and Mexico and shipped to Mexico. GM announced that they will be opening a manufacturing plant in China within the next year or two.

Just visit your local Wal-Mart, Target, Kohls, JC Penny, Sears, etc. and look at the seal or tags. Over 90% are imported.

What do we export?

Currency is a double-edged sword, so remember that. For every negative action in the short-term, there is a positive reaction in the longer term. It all depends on how you play the game.

Not for the US dollar as it is planned to crash within the next year or so. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates say to get out of the dollar and they have put their money where their mouth is.

Here is a statement by Warren Buffet himself!

Through the spring of 2002, I had lived nearly 72 years without purchasing a foreign currency. Since then Berkshire has made significant investments in -- and today holds -- several currencies. I won't give you particulars; in fact, it is largely irrelevant which currencies they are. What does matter is the underlying point: To hold other currencies is to believe that the dollar will decline.

Both as an American and as an investor, I actually hope these commitments prove to be a mistake. Any profits Berkshire might make from currency trading would pale against the losses the company and our shareholders, in other aspects of their lives, would incur from a plunging dollar.

But as head of Berkshire Hathaway, I am in charge of investing its money in ways that make sense. And my reason for finally putting my money where my mouth has been so long is that our trade deficit has greatly worsened, to the point that our country's "net worth," so to speak, is now being transferred abroad at an alarming rate.

Warren Buffett to CNBC: U.S. Dollar Not the "Best Currency in the World" to Own Right Now

If anything invest in gold. That way it's a win/win for you in the end.

That's the smartest and best thing you've said. Gold, at $800/oz today is still a great buy and is said to double within the next year. When I bought gold at $280/oz 6 yrs ago people thought I was nuts. Whose nuts now? I'm still buying it. In the end, as you said, it's the only way you'll win in the end along with other commodities like, silver, copper, and such along with oil which will be near $150/bbl by this time next year and curriencies other than the US$.

 

[yumeitsumo]

Yeah, personally I don't like what the US does. I am going to be a citizen of Japan... I wonder what you have to do to become a citizen of Japan... Time for me to post a topic.

 

[Doc]

Pray tell, what in God's good name is the US exporting anymore that amounts to anything? Movies? Porno? Beer/alcohol? What real goods do we export anymore. Can you, or anyone, please tell me?

Machine tools? Nope, all imported from China.

Textiles? Nope, nearly all imported from China, Asia, or South America! Look at your suits

TV's, cell phones, DVR's, or other electronics? Nope, we all know where they come from.

Ammunition for the US military? Nope, made mostly in China or other foreign countries. Cheaper

Cars? Many parts are manufactured in Canada or Mexico and shipped to the US for assembly, but more and more "US" cars are being made in Canada and Mexico and shipped to Mexico. GM announced that they will be opening a manufacturing plant in China within the next year or two.

Just visit your local Wal-Mart, Target, Kohls, JC Penny, Sears, etc. and look at the seal or tags. Over 90% are imported.

What do we export?

More than you'll ever know. (grain, fossil fuels, technology, etc)

Not for the US dollar as it is planned to crash within the next year or so. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates say to get out of the dollar and they have put their money where their mouth is.

Here is a statement by Warren Buffet himself!

Warren Buffett to CNBC: U.S. Dollar Not the "Best Currency in the World" to Own Right Now

Economics is your friend, ignorance is not. You cannot predict what the economy will do in the long term. On the flip side, you cannot directly control the economy on the short term either. The economy is a living breathing thing whether you like it or not. At the end of the day, it is the average consumer that makes this country go round. You can believe that the rich will destroy us all you want. When this crap you spout is considered invalid by next year it won't really matter anymore. I have more confidence in the American people than I do in your crackpot theories.

Furthermore, the Amero was joke created by an artist for the US Mint. Then again, I never expected you to hear about that story. Also, the only place where Mexamericanda is a reality is in Texas, and the citizens there are doing a pretty good job of fighting it. I am appalled that you would let your cynicism blind the good of the American people fighting the "evil US conglomerate." After all, the people help shoot down the illegal immigration bill, but I'm sure you'll say that they didn't. If we do indeed go down, we will be taking others with us. Just remeber that.

That's the smartest and best thing you've said. Gold, at $800/oz today is still a great buy and is said to double within the next year. When I bought gold at $280/oz 6 yrs ago people thought I was nuts. Whose nuts now? I'm still buying it. In the end, as you said, it's the only way you'll win in the end along with other commodities like, silver, copper, and such along with oil which will be near $150/bbl by this time next year and currencies other than the US$.

The bi-metals market is a good market to invest in period. You can frame your justification up all you want with your crackpot conspiracy theories, but at the end of the day, bi-metals are good investment for simple, yet practical reasons.

I also have something I want you to check out. There is a guy who goes right up your ally with all the crap you've been talking about. His name is Dr. Michael Lynch, and he is a regular on The Dave Glover Show here in St. Louis. Here's some sites for you to go to, to make you even more comfortable with your thoughts, no matter how wrong they are.

DGS: http://www.971talk.com/Glover/index.aspx
Lynch: Free Website Building Software | Create a Website - Homestead

Have fun you whack job!

Yeah, personally I don't like what the US does. I am going to be a citizen of Japan... I wonder what you have to do to become a citizen of Japan... Time for me to post a topic.

Then by all means, please move somewhere else. I don't want somebody living here, if they don't like it.