Hide

He seemed to be a pretty unique guy. Only learned about him several weeks ago, when I descovered X Japan (totally love them btw). I heard he saved a girls life by being donor for her, and having to undergo a very painful procedure. His guitare solos sound great to me (cant really judge him cause im not a guitare player or specialist myself). Saw the newsvid of his funeral with all kind of people bursting into tears. If it was suicide then I say he was a totall ***** for leaving all those people behind, but as I read there are a lot of other toughts going round that it may have been an accident. Well.. We will never know..
 
What bugs me the most of about his death is he fact he didn't die until he was in the ambulance. So I always wonder what was going through his mind if anything when they came in and took him away on the stretcher.
It makes me cry to think maybe he was in a lot of pain and he was really scared.That he didn't want to die. I wish he knew that people loved him and they were there to help him.
Maybe he was too drunk to realize anything.
Then I think about the girl who found him, I just imagine the guilt and the depression she probably went through. I mean, I bet if she is around today she probably thinks " I should have never left him. I should have stayed beside him..." Could you imagine? Finding someone you love dying? I mean that would make me depressed for the rest of my life. I mean it wasn't her fault.
I want to give both of them a hug.
 
Also when someone commits suicide, if it was indeed, then it isn't about anyone else. They are in their own selfish world. Trust me I know. They don't care if it hurts anyone else cause they have to stop the pain of whatever is happening to them. Suicide is a very selfish act, but who's to say if it could have been prevented in the future?
hide could be alive today and tomorrow he could commit suicide. I mean the girl could have found him in time and everything would be okay right? He'd be alive, maybe freaked and maybe he may have realized, I love life, yadda yadda. Maybe not. Maybe down the road he would try again and again.

Then again, I don't think it was suicide. I mean it is a possibility cause we don't know what exactly happened that night. One thing I know is that whole theory about murder is something I definitely don't believe. Maybe cause I am just convinced no one would want to hurt hide.
So many theories, there probably will never be an answer.
 
No I don't believe it was suicide either, but we can never really know what was going on in his mind. The explaination that makes the most sense to me is that he was drunk and it was an accident. I mean, if he was *really* drunk then it would be quite easy to get into that kinda situation and not be able to do anything about it. Or even want to die without showing any previous suicidal tendencies.
I guess that's what must hurt his friends, to this day, the mystery of it. If it was clearly suicide, with a note blar blar blar the whole thing would probably be clearere and slightly easier to deal with. I'm not sayin it would be easy, but it would be compaired to this uncertainty.

I'd forgotten that he didn't die until in the ambulance. To be honest I don't think he will have been thinking very much. He must have been pretty far gone by that time.

I have now become aware that I'm ranting slightly. Talking about hide's death always sets me off. I can't believe it was nearly 9 years ago. :(
 
Well I hope your right about the ambulance CharismaticDeath, I hope he was too far gone to know about any pain/etc. he was in.
I also agree on the whole drunk thing. I have thought that was mostly the reason, he was drunk, he did something stupid, he couldn't turn back...
It seems more like an accident then anything. I haven't really found anything where he was depressed or anything. I read about people reading interviews or watching something where he appears depressed.
It's kinda eerie the Pink Spider song/pv. It could be a suicide note of some sort, but what about a strange coincidence?
Nine years?? I have only gotten into his music and stuff like for about a month and a half or so...Wow! I feel so awful!:(
Then again maybe I should have hung out with those kids that were into Japanese music back in school, if there were any...Which I hardly doubt....:eek:
That's it as soon as I have my first kid I'm making sure that the first cd they ever listen to his like hide and Spread Beaver or some other wicked cool Japanese band. They will be the coolest kid in the playground.:-)
 
I've heard the rumors about Pink Spider being a suicide note before, the lyrics could most definately be read that way. He may have been manic depressive, I know a lot of great minds are/were. That way the fans would only see the manic side of his personality and any suicidal thoughts would come as a shock.

I got into his music too after his death... but to be fair when he was alive I was about 10!

I don't know many people who are into Japanese music... not that I haven't converted any way! Although I did find someone who I had been in classes with for two years and discovered she was a fan. I found this out at the pub for our end of school celebration... typical! I've found a couple so far at uni too... one of them was at one of the gigs I was at in London and we didn't realise each other would be there till we saw each others pics. Her arm was in one of my photos!

If I ever have a child it's being brought up on J-rock and metal exclusively!!! Classic rock and new age is also permited! None of these kids songs nonsense!
 
Totally! My kids will be singing Japanese before they can speak English! :giggle:
I was thirteen when he passed, and I was busy being a kid still. It's funny how you discover these people who have the same interests with you but by the time you do it's too late most of the time to form a friendship.
I read somewhere that hide was bi-polar or something. It was a music video on youtube and someone mentioned he said he was bi-polar from an interview. I don't know much about bi-polar, I think it mostly has to do with having massive mood changes and stuff like that.
Actually if you try and look up anything up on hide, unless you can understand Japanese, there isn't much stuff you run into about him. It's the same information you found on the last site, that he was lead guitarist, he was eccentric, etc. Like nothing I don't already know.

The most funniest story I heard about hide was I think from my guild. Maybe it was on here. But once in L.A. he was mistaken for a rent boy! That made me laugh. Poor hide!
 
CharismaticDeath said:
I've heard the rumors about Pink Spider being a suicide note before, the lyrics could most definitely be read that way. He may have been manic depressive, I know a lot of great minds are/were. That way the fans would only see the manic side of his personality and any suicidal thoughts would come as a shock.
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I heard of that. many people thought that was a suicide note, to let everyone know something... but I don't believe it... I really don't... but then again, this is MY opinion... T^T

Kikyos_Souls said:
The most funniest story I heard about hide was I think from my guild. Maybe it was on here. But once in L.A. he was mistaken for a rent boy! That made me laugh. Poor hide!
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I actually heard of that somewhere... I don't remember where I heard it... but I know I did! ^_^ I thought that was funny how they thought it.
 
Kikyos_Souls said:
I read somewhere that hide was bi-polar or something. It was a music video on youtube and someone mentioned he said he was bi-polar from an interview. I don't know much about bi-polar, I think it mostly has to do with having massive mood changes and stuff like that.
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That definately makes sense if he were.
Kikyos_Souls said:
Actually if you try and look up anything up on hide, unless you can understand Japanese, there isn't much stuff you run into about him. It's the same information you found on the last site, that he was lead guitarist, he was eccentric, etc. Like nothing I don't already know.
The most funniest story I heard about hide was I think from my guild. Maybe it was on here. But once in L.A. he was mistaken for a rent boy! That made me laugh. Poor hide!
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I think the authorities did a lot to cover the whole thing up. They seem to want it to appear like "oh he was a rockstar, he was drunk, he killed himself, thats what rockstars do... let that be a lesson children".
I'm learning Japanese... but no way near good enough to translate a report on hide!
::giggles at the rent boy story:: ... funny things tend to happen to J-rockers when they go to other countries. Hyde got ID'd in a club in London and he was at least 30 at the time! But then again... he is tiny! ^-^
 
I think the authorities did cover alot of things up to not make as much controversy... but I dont know that much in details...
 
I can so see Hyde being ID'd! He's 5"2 or 5"1. He is just so cute!:LOL:

Reita-kun I agree with you on the suicide note. I don't want to believe that he would just leave us with that. Like I said it could be but I just think it more of a song that he just wrote without any meaning besides what was originally meant for it.

As for authorities covering what happened, I agree. People were already in hysteria (sp?) and I mean he was a big rockstar. Also the privacy for his family and I mean obviously it didn't work as good as it should have. Not that it would have anyways seeing that the fact he was gone was enough to trigger an off set of reactions.
Was it two young girls who killed themselves? I know one hung herself in her room with a towel. The other I can't remember. (Also two people died in a car crash on their way to the service.)
Poor hide I don't think he would ever have wanted his fans to hurt or take their own lives. But he affected a lot of people when he died. :(
 
I'm telling you, the authorites cover EVERYTHING up... they just didnt want the people (general public) calling them, saying all this bull **** about his death... its a conspiracy... they just didnt want a controversy...

@Kikyos_Souls: I know for a FACT! that he wouldnt leave us in that manner... hide isnt that kind of person... he was having so much fun at his current time (before he dies) and he had many fans, he was loved my MANY! who would he kill himself when at that moment, he was having the TIME if his life? I dont believe that its a suicide... i wont believe it.. it cant be... as for the song? it was a meer (sp?) coincidence... I dont think he even knew himself...
 
LOL! My exact words above a few paragraphs-Pink Spider= mere coincidence.
Everyone always says that he had so much planned and he was really excited. Also him and Yoshiki were planning to bring back X.
It makes no sense what so ever that it was suicide. I just think he was drunk and he just wasn't in the right mind and maybe he was trying to scare his gf, but another person in a thread said something about how guitarist do this stretch using a towel or something. It's because they suffer from extreme muscle pain from the way the use the guitar or something.
That sounds believable to me. That he was trying to relieve muscle tension and ended falling asleep I mean it was very early in the morning, he was drunk and he was probably tired.
Also apparently he would do stuff when he was drunk to scare people. I don't really think he was trying to scare anyone that night...
It's one of those days were you wish you had a time machine...
 
@Kikyos_Souls: I know what you mean Kikyos_Souls, its just one of those days... you wish you could go aback in time and undo what was done... but we cant... and that the hard part, we hjust have to accept the fact that it happen... but what we CAN do is prove what really happened... like what we just did... talking about how its NOT a suicide... see, its based on our opinion... but if we could get facts, then we can prove everyone wrong!!!!! MWAHA! lol

OKay, I'm going to bed now... sleepy X_X talk with you soon!
 
I agree and I bet there are a load of people who believe what we do. Just have to gather our minions and march forward with our knowledge!


I should head off to bed too. Nite! Nice talking with you!
 
I really want to agree with you 100% but I really cant be certain. At Last Live he was crying when they played Forever Love, I know he wouldn't want to put them through the pain when they played it a second time. Yet if he were manic depressive and drunk at the time I'm sure he wasn't thinking rationally. Of course I don't think he wanted to hurt people, but I still wont rule out suicide. As much as I *really* want to. Although saying that I definately believe more in the other options presented. Not just because I want to but it does make more sense. I can't visualise the relaxation technique one, but its officially accepted as a way it could have happened so I guess it might have been that. I can, however, see it as a prank that went too far. And as he was drunk he wouldn't have been able to get out.

The authorities may have covered a lot up, but in doin that the opposite has been achieved. People talk about his death just because they want to *know* the facts. Contravercy is always goin to spark discussion and still more contravercy. But I suppose, even with all the facts, we still wouldnt know.

[::realises she's ranting again!::]
 
Yeah maybe it was just a stupid prank gone wrong...I mean I have also considered that although the way the person put the whole stretch thing had me convinced.. You got that right,CharismaticDeath ,by the authorities covering it up you just got more rumors/ideas/thoughts that will be flying around. Stuff like this just eats itself raw and there aren't going to answers to the questions.

I can't believe it has been 9 years come tomorrow.:(

Maybe we should change the subject from his death to his life instead. I mean we should remember him for his life, his talent, his kindness, his music, his fashion (hell yeah!:-) )and just for his attitude. I mean it is quite the topic to sit around and muse over what little information we have about his passing and just to have heartfelt discussions about how we feel about it. It has been interesting to share with but I think we should turn it on a happier note.

Personally what makes me love hide the most has to be his music, his fashion and that hair. 😍 Okay, Okay Everything!!! I mean the guy pulled off that hot pink hair so well. I love it, it just reflects his fun loving goofy personality!
His music, the stuff he did as a solo and with Spread Beaver, amazing! I remember listening to Rocket Dive for the first time and being blown away by his voice!! Every song is different from the next and his voice just morphs with each one!
He was great in X but I am so happy we got to hear and see him as a solo artist. He really showed us what he was capable of doing with music. It was totally different from X.
As for his amazing fashion! I want his clothes, I love how he got these bright fun colours in his clothes and he just did his stuff. I need to go to Necromancer now and maybe browse the shop, maybe they still have jewelery designed by him...
 
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Hideto Matsumoto
1964 Dec 13 - 1998 May 2
R.I.P
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oh.. it is so sad! 9 years today.. :( :( WHY did he die..:( i think his death was a tragedy. Why did he die so young. :? its so sad.. 😭
But, we'll always love you hide! Rest In Peace. :13:
 
R.I.P hide. Forever love.

Yesterday was one big tribute day. My hair got dyed pink, lots of pink food was eaten and I wrote messages for him on a rock at the beach. :(


About the reports I've been reading some of the newspaper reports on his death and they say nothing. Half of them don't even seem to have a clue who it is they are writing about. The worst was an Austrailian one. It angered me that people can be allowed to print stuff like that.
 
CharismaticDeath said:
R.I.P hide. Forever love.
Yesterday was one big tribute day. My hair got dyed pink, lots of pink food was eaten and I wrote messages for him on a rock at the beach. :(
About the reports I've been reading some of the newspaper reports on his death and they say nothing. Half of them don't even seem to have a clue who it is they are writing about. The worst was an Austrailian one. It angered me that people can be allowed to print stuff like that.
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Wow, pink hair. how cool! my eyes almost got wet when i read what you did yesterday.. that thing on the beach was so.. touching. :(:13::( but what was written in the newspapers? i havent seen it..
 
Man you know how to remember someone CharismaticDeath. The only pink food I can think about is strawberries and icecream.0.o I was also thinking about dyeing my hair hot pink (maybe in the future?) but I have decided to get a tattoo. Maybe some time later in summer or on his birthday. I have it all planned out.
It will be on the base of my neck, there will be a pink spider with his name in Kanji and his name in English written under the spider or something. I have to draw it out and prep it out a little more. I also want to get a butterfly on my wrist for Kami.
I spent the morning watching youtube videos of hide and it made me smile so much and made me so sad. I also thought of Yoshiki-sama and hoped he was doing okay and of X. He had Without You (makes me tear so much, it's just so sad and beautiful!) playing on his myspace and a picture of hide and him as well. Then in the afternoon I celebrated my nephews 3rd birthday.
It was a happy confusing sad beautiful day, cause of hide and his death but mostly cause of my nephew and his life.

I love you Hunter and hide!

I would also like to know what this Australian newspaper wrote too? That is if you can stomach what was put without breaking the keyboard or something...I hate when people just go along and put whatever they want with no heart or feeling and just assume people will appreciate what little heart and soul they put into writing trash. Vexing indeed!

The note on the rock by the beach sounds beautiful since his ashes were laid to rest in the ocean and how the symbolize of you writing on a rock just makes it perfect. I bet he was smiling!
 

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