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Notion of ALL LOOK SAME (ALLLOOKSAME.com). Is it really true?

Notion of AllLookSame (Alllooksame.com by dyske )

Notion of alllooksame (ALL LOOK SAME) can be a joke, but its unintended impact is neither innocuous, nor negligible. WE all should rethink the site, and ask ourselves if we can be free of racism by mocking and joking about other races that we don't belong to.

Here is a good article on the concept of alllooksame (alllooksame.com).

Source, in case you wonder, is Here.

melissa said:
Generally I am opinionated, but I don't think that my opinions make me an "expert" on anything and everything Asian American. Especially not something like this.

I took the test finally and I only missed a few-- what that says about me, I don't know. I also find the site amusing, but it does worry me that some people might take it seriously.

In any case, I haven't been able to find the article online (I am at the airport, so I'm not trying too hard to look), but here's the article from the Montreal Gazette. Enjoy:

Montreal Gazette
Wednesday, November 3, 2004
Page: A19
Section: News
Byline: MISTY HARRIS
Source: CanWest News Service

Among young Asian-Canadians, it's wryly called the yellow man's burden. In Hollywood movies like Rush Hour, it's the punchline for any number of
jokes.

Now the notion that all Asians look alike is the basis for a Web site.

AllLookSame.com, a controversial site that asks "what's the difference?" when it comes to Asian faces, has already attracted more than 1.3 million visitors.

But experts question whether AllLookSame - headed by a Japanese American - is not actually encouraging the stereotypes it sets out to parody.

"What's offensive is the idea of detaching race from ethnicity, identifying people in the absence of ways of speaking, acting or dressing," says Thomas Lamarre, professor of East Asian studies at McGill University.

"There are real physical differences between people; they just don't correspond with national categories neatly. Certain Japanese may look Chinese, whatever that means, and certain Chinese may look Thai because the borders don't correspond with ethnic groupings."

The centrepiece of AllLookSame is a quiz in which 18 photographs are shown and the user must determine who is Korean, Japanese and Chinese.

According to the site's Webmaster, Dyske Suematsu, the quiz is "ultimately a joke," but at the same time is designed to be "a celebration of the similarities and the differences among Asians."

In North American society, "publicly admitting that you cannot tell Asians apart comes across sounding racist or prejudiced," writes Suematsu, a graphic designer based in New York. "But with this site, knowing it was created by an Asian man, (Westerners) finally felt safe to admit what they had been feeling."

Suematsu defines two categories of visitors to AllLookSame: those who can't tell Asians apart and feel badly about it, and those who are convinced they can tell Asians apart by comparing them to images in such films as Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

Lamarre's concern lies not in those specific distinctions but in the selection of the 18 photos used to typify each nationality.

"Who decides what Chinese looks like? Some scientists somewhere could do research and come up with statistical measurements of cranium or different kinds of epicanthic folds. But in this case, it's just someone somewhere deciding that there are these general distributions."


Sean Metzger, an Asian pop-culture expert and lecturer at Duke University, thinks the very existence of AllLookSame raises important questions about racial paradigms. But in not following up on those key issues, he says the site fails to make its point.

"Whether your intention is to dismantle a stereotype or not, just by invoking it, you immediately perpetuate it," Metzger says. "(The site) doesn't talk about how the stereotype emerged historically, what type of power dynamics keep it in place - all of the things needed to be useful anti-racist education."

Melissa Hung, editor-in-chief of the Asian-American magazine Hyphen, is amused by the popular site, worrying only that "someone could take the test, score terribly, and go away thinking that all Asians do look alike."

She reads Suematsu's site as pure parody, with the underlying message people can't accurately be judged by outward appearances.

"I'd like to see a site with white people and see if anyone can tell the difference between Germans, Brits, the French, and white Americans," Hung jokes. "Frankly, all those frat boys in their khakis and polos look kind of the same."

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No that's not how you should look at multivariate statistics. Principal component analysis is the analysis on both mean and (co-)variances. Distances clustering also do not suffer much biases due to outliers, since it's common practice to exclude the anomaly from the samples on study.
Perhaps, you can scroll cursor back to the earlier posts of mine. Craniofacial analyses are developed and researched by the two famous Harvard anthropology, Brown, and Braces. Practically, these methodologies can encompass all your concerns.
I began to wonder if you understand the meaning of Varience... well, if you understand statistics, I guess you won't try that stupid photo comparison again.. I know, I know, it's hard for someone to admit their mistakes, well, how about learn some Japanese and chinese first, and let's resume this discusion 20 yrs later..

warlord

Ainu Japanese
Ainu
ainu2-1.jpg

Chinese
Cao Kun
warlord

Ainu Japanese vs chinese?.. that just showed that you have no idea about most of the minority groups in east asia. maybe you will use American Indian vs mexicans on your post if there is a discussion about Americans

A few more images to illustrate the all look same
Jomon JapaneseItagaki Taisuke, politician
Taisuke_Itagaki_41-1.jpg
Jomon Japanese in B/W photoes!! you are so funny, can you get me a pic of prehistorically chinese too. :p
 
Notion of All Look Same (alllooksame.com)

I began to wonder if you understand the meaning of Varience...
Then define it. I would be grateful if you can be more specific.... I remember I cited PCA... Principal component analysis is a part of multivariate statistics dealing with "variance-co-variance matrix" ("not varience", as you spelled wrongly.). Please explain to me what's that about my understanding on elementary statistics(?).
mingo said:
I know, I know, it's hard for someone to admit their mistakes, well, how about learn some Japanese and chinese first, and let's resume this discusion 20 yrs later..
At least tell me what's the mistake I've done. It would be very interesting to know. Sometimes, chinese people has a really nice thing to tell.
For further illustrations, let me post more images for comparisons.
Jomon Japanese
yomimono03_01-1.jpg

Chinese
ZhengWentian-1.jpg

Jomon Japanese
mutu-1.jpg

Chinese

mingo said:
Ainu Japanese vs chinese?.. that just showed that you have no idea about most of the minority groups in east asia. maybe you will use American Indian vs mexicans on your post if there is a discussion about Americans
Many japanese are mixed with Ainu, and after all, Japanese jomon ethinic is a precursor of Ainu people. Much of genetics showed that Japanese are half jomon and half yayoi.

Fig. 2. Frequency distributions of the eight Y-chromosome haplotypes for the 14 global populations, with their approximate geographic locations. The frequencies of the eight haplotypes are shown as colored pie charts (for color codes, see upper left insert). JP Japanese
Only four Japanese populations exhibited ht1 (defined only by YAP+) at various frequencies (also see Table 1). The highest frequency (87.5%) was found in JP-Ainu, followed by JP-Okinawa (55.6%) living in the southwestern islands of Japan, JP-Honshu (36.6%), and JP-Kyushu (27.9%). The ht2 haplotype (defined by YAP+/M15+) was found in only two males, one each from Thais and Thai-Khmers; ht3 (defined by YAP+/SRY4064-A) was completely absent in the Asian populations examined, whereas Jewish in the Uzbekistan and African populations had this haplotype with a frequency of 28.3% and 100%, respectively. Thus, the YAP+ lineage was found in restricted populations among Asian populations, consistent with previous reports (Hammer and Horai 1995; Hammer et al. 1997; Shinka et al. 1999).
The ht4 haplotype (defined only by M9-G) was widely distributed among north, east, and southeast Asian populations, except for the Ainu. This haplotype was frequent (60.5%) in overall Asian populations (Table 1). Among them, the Han Chinese and southeast Asian populations were characterized by high frequencies ranging from 81.0% to 96.0%. In contrast to ht4, ht5 (defined by M9-G/DYS257108-A) and ht6 (defined by M9-G/DYS257108-A/SRY10831-A) were small contributors to Asian populations. The highest frequency of ht5 was observed in Nivkhi (19.0%) and that of the ht6 in Thai-Khmers (10.8%). The ht5 haplotype is widely distributed among European, Asian, and Native American populations and is proposed to be one of the candidates for founder haplotypes in the Americas (Karafet et al. 1999). Furthermore, high frequencies of ht6 were observed in north Europe, central Asia, and India (Karafet et al. 1999). Thus, the presence of ht5 in Nivkhi may account for the founder effect of peopling of the Americas.
The ht7 haplotype (defined by RPS4Y-T) was also widely distributed throughout Asia with the exceptions of Malaysia and the Philippines, whereas this was absent in two non-Asian populations. The highest frequency of ht7 was found in Buryats (83.6%), followed by Nivkhi (38.1%). Thus, the geographic distribution of ht7 in Asia appears to contrast with that of ht4.
Only eight individuals (1.4%) in Asia belonged to ht8, which was the major haplotype in Jewish population (Table 1). The ht8 haplotype may not be useful for inferring population relatedness among Asian populations because it is defined by no mutations. Additional Y-polymorphic markers such as M89 and M168 (Underhill et al. 2000; Ke et al. 2001) will be needed to investigate details of the formation of modern Asian populations.

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An article studying facial structures of jomon/ainu japanese and chinese.

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/171305898v1

Published online before print July 31, 2001, 10.1073/pnas.171305898

Old World sources of the first New World human inhabitants: A comparative craniofacial view
C. Loring Brace*,, A. Russell Nelson*,, Noriko Seguchi*, Hiroaki Oeツ⇒? Leslie Sering*, Pan Qifengツ?キ, Li Yongyi, and Dashtseveg Tumen**
* Museum of Anthropology, University of Michigan, 1109 Geddes Avenue, Ann Arbor, MI 48109; Department of Anthropology, University of Wyoming, Laramie, WY 82071; ツ⇒ Department of Statistics, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI 48109; ツ?キ Institute of Archaeology, Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, 27 Wangfujing Dajie, Beijing 100710, China; Department of Anatomy, Chengdu College of Traditional Chinese Medicine, 13 Xing Lo Road, Chengdu, Sichuan, People's Republic of China; and ** Department of Anthropology, Mongolian Academy of Sciences, Ulaanbaatar-51, Mongolia

Communicated by Kent V. Flannery, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI, June 18, 2001 (received for review January 2, 2001)

Abstract
Human craniofacial data were used to assess the similarities and differences between recent and prehistoric Old World samples, and between these samples and a similar representation of samples from the New World. The data were analyzed by the neighbor-joining clustering procedure, assisted by bootstrapping and by canonical discriminant analysis score plots. The first entrants to the Western Hemisphere of maybe 15,000 years ago gave rise to the continuing native inhabitants south of the U.S.-Canadian border. These show no close association with any known mainland Asian population. Instead they show ties to the Ainu of Hokkaido and their Jomon predecessors in prehistoric Japan and to the Polynesians of remote Oceania. All of these also have ties to the Pleistocene and recent inhabitants of Europe and may represent an extension from a Late Pleistocene continuum of people across the northern fringe of the Old World. With roots in both the northwest and the northeast, these people can be described as Eurasian. The route of entry to the New World was at the northwestern edge. In contrast, the Inuit (Eskimo), the Aleut, and the Na-Dene speakers who had penetrated as far as the American Southwest within the last 1,000 years show more similarities to the mainland populations of East Asia. Although both the earlier and later arrivals in the New World show a mixture of traits characteristic of the northern edge of Old World occupation and the Chinese core of mainland Asia, the proportion of the latter is greater for the more recent entrants.

pq1713058004gif-1.jpg

Fig. 4. A dendrogram based on the samples used to construct Fig. 3, plus a Bronze Age Mongolian group and four others from the Western Hemisphere. (A) The neighbor-joining method was used on 1,000 bootstrap samplings to generate the pattern displayed. (B) The relationships among the groups are also displayed by canonical discriminant function scores. The first discriminant function accounts for 48% of total variation, and the second accounts for 16%.

pq1713058005-1.jpg

Fig. 5. The arrows indicate the spread of Levallois point makers eastward across the northern edge of the Old World between 200,000 and 170,000 years ago; the expansion from Southeast Asia to New Guinea and Australia 60,000 years ago; the spread to the northernmost portions of the Old World and the initial entry into the New World 15,000 years ago; and population movements at both the western and eastern edges of the Old World and into the New World after the development of agriculture after the end of the Pleistocene.

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Jomon Japanese
Kuroda Kiyotaka
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Chen Boda
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Jomon Japanese
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K'ung Hsiang-hsi
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Jomon Japanese
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LiuZhengrong
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Jomon Japanese
natsume soseki
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Chinese
Peng Dehuai
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Chinese
Deng Xixian
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Notion of All Look Same (alllooksame.com by dyske)

There was an exhibition on jomon (ainu/emishi/ryukyuan) and yayoi japanese. The image below is for the event.

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Jomon Japanese
Takaaki Kato, Prime Minister of Japan
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Chinese
Mao Zedong
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Perception of all look same can be an inherent disability to recognize the distinct class of objects.

Andrew Billen said:
They all the same to me
18 March 2006

From blanking colleagues and acquaintances, Andrew Billen knew that his face-blindness was bad — then tests revealed just how bad. ツ…

Prosopagnosia, or face-blindness. The term was invented in 1947 by Joachim Bodamer, a German neurologist, who combined the Greek for face with the medical term for recognition impairment, agnosia, and a handful of scientists have been investigating the syndrome ever since. ツ…


I have had prosopagnosia diagnosed. ツ…

To you, I appear rude, stand-offish, solipsistic or, as a colleague says, ツ"a typical manツ". Yet once I have satisfied myself as to who you are, I am really quite good at remembering your life stories and children's names. Put it this way: it makes parties difficult.

The other day I caught the subject being discussed on the regional news by Dr Brad Duchaine [UCL Institute of Cognitive Neuroscience]. He was looking for prosopagnosics to test. A week later I was sitting in his lab in Bloomsbury, undergoing 90 minutes of visual tests on a laptop. In the first few quizzes I was shown 50 pictures, first of houses, then cars and, finally, slightly bizarrely, toy horses. Ten of these in each test would be shown twice and I had to press a key when I recognised a picture I had seen previously.

It really wasn't that difficult, but then the test was repeated with photographs of bald, jowly men of the Mitchell brothers/Bob Hoskins type. ツ… I tried to note particular characteristics – dimples, enlarged noses – but they all looked much the same to me. I was lost.

ツ"Now, you see, control groups of non-prosopagnosics find all these tests really easy,ツ" Dr Duchaine told me afterwards. ツ"People clean up on them. My wife got only one wrong. I mean, we all make mistakes from time to time, but prosopagnosics do so much more often. They also over-recognise people; greet people they have never met.ツ" ツ…
Dr Duchaine has been researching the syndrome for ten years. At the beginning he thought the problem quite rare, but has found it to be more common. ツ…

There is evidence, Dr Duchaine says, that face recognition involves particularly the brain's right hemisphere, popularly thought to be the intuitive, holistic side. Prosopagnosia is a result of an impairment to a mechanism that specifically identifies faces, which is why I could tell the cars, houses and horses apart. His hunch is that there is no one cause for it, that, indeed, prosopagnosia may actually be being used as an umbrella term for several distinct conditions. Acquired prosopagnosia, for instance, is caused by head injury or brain illness. ツ…

Recognising faces must have been a useful evolutionary skill, I said. He agreed but pointed out that it is becoming ever more demanding. Centuries ago when we lived in small communities, you might need to identify 200 faces in a lifetime. Today, in cities and thanks to television, we might see that number in a day. If you can't recognise them, there is no cure. ツ…

And there was one test I was really terrible at. I had to identify celebrity faces shorn of their hair. I knew I had not done well, failing to recognise even the first one, which was of Dr Duchaine, and I had only just met him. I also drew a blank with both Beckhams, Prince William and Einstein. I thought Kate Moss was Natalie Portman and Arnie Schwarzenegger was Jim Carrey. Save for the brain-damaged, Dr Duchaine had never met someone so rubbish at this test. Interesting, I said, given my job. ツ"Which is?ツ" he asked. Celebrity interviewer, I said. And I had interviewed Arnie twice.

Andrew Billen, ツ'The Times', 18 March 2006

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Notion of All Look Same (alllooksame.com by dyske)

Jomon Japanese
Kaneko, Kentaro
kaneko_kentaro-1.jpg


Chinese
Name: Wang Ming (1904-1974) a senior leader of the early Chinese Communist Party (CCP)
Birthplace: Anhui
Ethnicity: Han Chinese
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Jomon Japanese
Shimanuki Hyodayu
shimanuki_hyoudayu-1.jpg

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Wang Jingwei, Chinese politician and leader
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Soga Sukenori
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Wu TingFang
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Fujita Kotaro
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Jomon Japanese
Tanaka Jihei
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Chinese
Bai Chongxi
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Chinese
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Jomon Japanese
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Jomon Japanese
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Kao Lin Wei
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Jomon Japanese
Kuroda Kiyotaka, Prime Minister of Japan
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Chinese
Jiyao Tang
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Shimanuki Hyoudayu
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Chinese
Yan Xishan
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Jomon Japanese
Katu Kaishu
kanrin8-1.jpg


Chinese
Name: Chen Duxiu (1879–1942), founder of Chinese Communist Party (Anhui Patriotic Association)
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Jomon Japanese
Wife of Mutsu Munemitsu
ryouko-1.jpg


Chinese
Li Zongren
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Jomon Japanese
Taisuke Itagaki
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Chinese
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Notion of All Look Same (alllooksame.com by dyske)

It is sometimes technically difficult to see certain "Jomon-ness" in all japanese, as there has been massive immigrations into japan from the poor nations like korea and china. Evaluating Japanese faces aren't easy task, and I am not going to exaggerate that you can spot japanese with absolute certainty. On the contrary, Japanese "jomon people, ainu people, emishi people, ryukyu people" are highly mixed with continental migrants over the years. There is usually a sign for japanese to have certain features uncommon in chinese and korean, but it won't be possible if the person's grand-grand father and mother came from korea and china, and grew up like the rest of japanese people.

For a guide to observe the differences, let me cite the konnyaku's analysis.

konnyaku said:
1) Japanese tend to have a more pronounced facial topography (i.e., a rather "bumpy" or "projecting" look to the face, such as around the eyebrows, rather than the smooth and flat contours of Chinese or Koreans)

2) Japanese tend to have a more perceptually salient nose. This can be either more salient in simply the degree of projection from the surface of the face, or more salient in terms of the total volume of the nose (i.e., including the width). In general, Japanese seem to exhibit a much greater variety of nose sizes and shapes than do continental East Asians, and I have met many Japanese who even have "bumpy" noses with several bulges and constrictions in the contour of the nose, as I have otherwise only observed in Europeans. Chinese and Koreans appear to have only smooth-contoured noses, regardless of whether they are flat and broad (as is common in southern Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.) or narrow and slightly projecting. This feature is particularly relevant for distinguishing Japanese men from Chinese or Korean men, because women of every nationality tend to be rather paedomorphic when it comes to their noses.
 
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Jomon Japanese
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Chinese
Wang Jingwei
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Jomon Japanese
Takaaki Kato, Prime minister of Japan
Takaaki_Kato-1.jpg


Chinese
Chen Boda
ChenBoda-1.jpg


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Jomon Japanese
shimanuki hyoudayu
shimanuki_hyoudayu-1.jpg

Chinese
Li Dazhao
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Let me cite konnyaku's analysis, as I included parts of it in a post above.

konnyaku said:
3) Japanese people tend to have a diminutive lower facial region. They often have small jaws, which may be the direct cause of their propensity for having poor alignment of the teeth. Continental East Asians, on the other hand, seem to have huge jaws, flaring malars (cheekbones), and a generally large and imposing lower face when viewed from a Caucasian perspective.

4) Japanese people often have rather translucent skin, similar to that of Europeans, when they are not tanned. Therefore, Japanese people often have rosy cheeks and a generally healthy-looking complexion. When they do tan, they tend to take on a reddish-brown color. The Chinese and Koreans, on the other hand, are almost all cream- or beige-colored ("pasty") from the start, and they have completely opaque skin, so that it is impossible for them to have rosy cheeks and they always look sort of sickly unless they are tanned, in which case they take on a yellow-brown color.

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More analysis by konnyaku.

konnyaku said:
As for distinguishing Chinese and Koreans by sight, I think it is quite difficult, but not impossible. They both have a propensity for big faces with a smoothly rounded outline, but Koreans tend to be more extreme in the width of their faces, so that they often have a nearly circular look, whereas Chinese tend to have more elliptical faces when viewed directly from the front.

This roundness of the faces have been proven by several cranial studies posted earlier on this thread.

konnyaku said:
Chinese also more frequently have double eyelids and larger eyes that seem to bulge out of their (flat) sockets. Korean people tend to have very small eyes and no eyelid creases.

Images posted shows that chinese tends to have the bigger eyes with flat sockets.

konnyaku said:
Among East Asians, Chinese people also have a peculiar tendency towards prognathism, so that they often have bulging mouths that look somewhat reminiscent of black Africans. The big, bulgy eyes and mouth that appear so frequently among Chinese people seem to me to suggest some sort of affinity with populations of Southeast Asia. Also, I'm not totally sure about this, but I have a hunch that Koreans more frequently have a sort of oily shine to their skin, whereas Chinese people's skin tends to be more dull and dry-looking.

Many chinese indeed has this similarity to south east asian people, and some chinese does look no different from south east asian people, while look of others do look somehow mutated by the colder weathers up in the north of yellow river, and by long-time invasions by mongols and consequent stealing of chinese wives.

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Let me cite Maciamo's analysis again to further illustrate alllooksame-ness of Japanese, Korean, and Chinese.

maciamo said:
I insist that it's very possible to tell the difference between East Asians, for I have been several times to Korea and live in Japan. I flew quite a few times in planes composed half of Japanese and half of Korean and even flight attendant can usually tell the difference when they address someone (they have to know whether to speak in Korean or Japanese and rarely mistake). It is absolutely normal that Japanese can't tell the difference since most of them have never really thought about it or haven't been to Korea or China.

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