Best way to get a CoE for visa application

Haruto Uzumaki

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This is close to living in Japan... It's about trying to live in Japan.
What's the best way to get a certificate of eligibility for a visa application? Assume I have no employer, school, or relative in Japan (cause I have none of these). Would getting a friend in Japan to do it work? If not, what can I do?
 
Prob apply to English schools until you find one willing to sponsor your visa. Good time to do it, all the foreigners left after corona and schools are desperate. Saw a complete dufus land (and then get fired from) a 6kUsd/month job at an English school.
 
Just want to mention you need a 4 year degree to get the work visa, if you don't have one do it.
Oh boy... Welp I might have to restart... Unless there's a way to "cheat the code" and get to stay in Japan longer without a work visa... Till I can reach the 5 year minimum to gain citizenship and all 😅 I didn't think this was a requirement though, I thought I saw that it was just one of the things that you could use to get it but not the only way? But if it's required then that's really bad news...
 
Oh boy... Welp I might have to restart... Unless there's a way to "cheat the code" and get to stay in Japan longer without a work visa... Till I can reach the 5 year minimum to gain citizenship and all 😅 I didn't think this was a requirement though, I thought I saw that it was just one of the things that you could use to get it but not the only way? But if it's required then that's really bad news...
Well it depends on the kind of work you will do. For the most part the system is oriented towards professional work which requires four year degrees. But I imagine there may be some lesser known jobs that don't require it. For example I once met a guy who worked in the funeral industry in Japan embalming bodies. I didn't ask him if he had a four year degree but that seems like the kind of job where it might not be required. But of course he would have needed some kind of credential unless there was some sort of trainee position available.

The easiest way to "cheat the code" is to marry a native. But that method has its own hazards. 😅
 
Another option is to go there on a student visa (you need to apply to a Japanese school, and they will help you get the visa). I think there are Japanese language schools that will sponsor a visa.
 
Well it depends on the kind of work you will do. For the most part the system is oriented towards professional work which requires four year degrees. But I imagine there may be some lesser known jobs that don't require it.
You misunderstand it is for the visa, not the job. eikaiwa jobs (English conversation schools) don't usually care about a degree, the visa you need to enter does need the degree. A way around that for some visas is to have enough years professional experience that works in some cases for the engineer visa I heard typically 10 years experience. Eikiawa does not need a degree for the job. I have known people with no degree who were married to a Japanese and did eikaiwa.

I bet your funeral person was married to a Japanese or had been in Japan a long time doign eikaiwa or something and I bet he had a degree for earlier visas. Once you are in for a while if you have enough income you can self sponsor, it is a hard one for me to digest but you are already there. And of course permanent residency is available eventually.

Japanese language school will get you in if you can pay, it is even possible to be allowed to do some part time work while being a student but again the visa ends when your schooling ends and Japanese language school does not give a degree. Now a University in Japan, that could do it, go to school in Japan enter on student visa, graduate university you then have your degree, you are in Japan and easier to get a job get an employer to sponsor.

Marriage also works but be careful with that, many bad marriages this is an important decision be very careful. I as fortunate in mine (I also have a university degree).

There is a visa to come over for cultural activities I am unsure on the limits on that one. Prosletyising is yet another way in, don't know much about their visa.
Post is from US so no working holiday option.

You can get the degree online these days, you have it easy in a way just get the degree and be done with it. You can even do it in Japan. Then you have more visa options if you want to live in Japan. I used to hear jokes for eikaiwa the degree could be in underwater basket weaving it does not matter. I have never worked for an eikaiwa company, I only know some. If you go online just make sure it is accredited, I bet if you have the time you could do it faster as well these days though it might be nice to get a degree in something you could use for what you want to do.
 
You misunderstand it is for the visa, not the job.
Yes I know. I meant that at least the government treats it as a professional job that requires education even if the schools will hire any native speaker that put up with their crap.
I bet your funeral person was married to a Japanese or had been in Japan a long time doing eikaiwa or something and I bet he had a degree for earlier visas.
I just re-read the article that I wrote in Japanzine 20 years ago. He said he needed schooling, internship and work experience before getting the job in Japan. So I'm guessing he got in via the professional experience requirement. Or it's possible that he had a college degree. I can't tell for sure. But he did come to Japan specifically for that job.
 
Cool. Yea that category I have not run into. He at least needed education and experience before he just showed up.

Giving it some more thought I wonder if he could squeeze in under an entertainer visa if he already had a job. Kinda hard to do from abroad (no networking). Typically needs experience. Even so I'd still suggest the degree so one can have more visa options in case surprises happen.
 
self sponsor,
I will try to do that one as well since I can get income from online as well
Marriage also works but be careful with that,
I won't be getting married 😅
There is a visa to come over for cultural activities I am unsure on the limits on that one.
6 months extensible up to a year but requires a ton of money and I don't think you're allowed to work, or maybe it's part time as well but it's really expensive so I wouldn't say it's worth it at this point to get in
 
Cool. Yea that category I have not run into. He at least needed education and experience before he just showed up.

Giving it some more thought I wonder if he could squeeze in under an entertainer visa if he already had a job. Kinda hard to do from abroad (no networking). Typically needs experience. Even so I'd still suggest the degree so one can have more visa options in case surprises happen.
Oh yeah I was thinking about an entertainer visa as well since technically what I do falls under that category as well, so maybe, I just don't know if 4½ years is enough experience for it, maybe not
 
The self sponsored visa is a difficult one to get. You need a history of a certain income level you will not reach while as a student, you will need work contracts showing you will continue to get that required income.
 
The self sponsored visa is a difficult one to get. You need a history of a certain income level you will not reach while as a student, you will need work contracts showing you will continue to get that required income.
I intend to make most of the income online, which is doable :) very doable in fact, I just need to work hard 🙏🏾
 
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