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What is the most annoying thing about living in Japan?

Actually, most middle-class people in western countries can use chopsticks. And there are surely people who think that most Asians cannot use a fork, but luckily such people are the minority.
 
My single largest irritation is that my apartment is only wired for 20 amps.

When I was a kid I thought the troubles Oliver Wendell Douglas had with the electricity in his delapidated farmhouse on "Green Acres" was funny. Now I live it.
 
The single most annoying thing for me are the bosozoku and other people who purposely alter their vehicles to be noise polluters. The ones I hear in the daytime, while annoying, can be dealt with. When those idiots come driving around at 2 or 3 in the morning and refuse to leave, it's infuriating.
 
For me, there are a number of things which get under my skin, but the more likely source of most of them is the lack, and application of critical thinking. One area where it hits at home is, and some of you may recall this, the garbage collecting system. MM
 
Personally it is the lack of adherance to the driving laws. The downright refusal of people to timely stop at red lights, or to totally disregard stop signs and parking regulations.
 

Ah, yes....having rules for the sake of having rules, with no one being able to explain the reasoning behind them.

Come to think of it, another irritating thing is the tendency to behave as though merely having a slogan is enough to remedy or prevent a problem. All that counts is that you have the slogan; acting in accordance with its goals isn't required. This country loooooves slogans.
 


This reminds me of last month, when everyone in my school (teachers and students) received a "conservation journal," a 32 page B5 booklet with monthly calendars (so we can write how much we are conserving every day, of course), and about 8 pages of bus schedules and advertisements. Let's save the earth by wasting paper!
 

I think Japan is about rules, slogans and rituals. By rituals I mean the fact that people will do the motions, the same as everyone else, just because its what everyone else does, irregardless of meaning, feeling or beliefs. Examples include Valentines and White day gift giving, the celebration of Christmas, going to shrines on New Years (me to Christian girl - "but you don't have any shinto beliefs!" "yeah, but I'm Japanese" "....").


That would be my worry at work - in Australia we used a "paper-free" office approach - use emails as much as possible and avoid printing unless necessary. Usually I would print out my timesheet and use it during the week at a notepad, and at the end of the week it would be covered front and back in numbers and scribble, then chucked into the the shredder before being sent off to the recyclers.

But in Japan, you have a meeting and evvvvverything needs to be printed, and a copy for everyone. In a year I collected 30cm of A4 paper (and alot of A3 folded in half to fit the pile), none of it I used ever again bar 10 pieces of paper that I printed for my own use. On top of that the representatives for 2 insurance companies visit the office daily and give us "newsletters" (normally just sports news) which have been piling up and are about 10cm high now.

That's some serious paper wastage.
 
I think Japan is about rules, slogans and rituals. By rituals I mean the fact that people will do the motions, the same as everyone else, just because its what everyone else does, irregardless of meaning, feeling or beliefs.

A somewhat relevant 1999 usenet post that helps to illustrate your point:


Examples include Valentines and White day gift giving, the celebration of Christmas, going to shrines on New Years (me to Christian girl - "but you don't have any shinto beliefs!" "yeah, but I'm Japanese" "....").

Don't get me started on how weird Japanese Christians can be....


My company decided that it would be too difficult to get one of the ISO certifications that are so popular among Japanese companies these days, but that we ought to have something, so they signed up for a ニ丹ニ椎?ツーニ停?愬弛窶ーc (ecological management) certification. We have a solid wall in our breakroom absolutely plastered with printouts showing how we are complying with the certification's mandate to reduce waste. The irony is lost on everyone except me.
 
construction budgets end in March

In response to constant construction mentioned by Jimmyseal...Maybe you all know that City/municipal/town/village budgets are yearly and follow the school year April-March. I would always notice in March a flurry of roadworks and hillside cementing. The reason is simple. If they don't use every penny, they will have budget reductions imposed for the next year...and it's a make work project for all the UI recipients...i.e. they can requalify for benifits...
 
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Lack of sincerity

Why can't women just tell a guy to screw off? Why don't they just put that kind and friendly facade away...it only gets them into trouble when faced with a tenacious and tediously pathetic lonely white guy (not me ).

If they're not interested, it actually should be obvious ( we can't hear them saying "what a jerk"! to their girlfriend as they walk away).

I mean, the face-saving attitude even when confronted head on in the street by a sexfiend ( not me), has got to be just the most irritating behavior that any self-respecting person would be loath to own up to.

I really want to show respect and encourage Japanese women to improve their lot in life, but it's downright pathetic and utterly pointless to even try to hold a moderately serious conversation OR to try and court a decent girl IF i've got to wonder about sincerity and all the possible crap she might be lugging around with her just to drop onto my innocent little toes, etc. ( no. not me!)

No beauty in the world is worth that kind of hopeless aggravation

I love marathon sentences...my second most irritating thing would be the incredible number of mosquitoes that mysteriously find their way thru my walls and windows, especially now that i live in a brand new house AND never open anything but the front door...they can't all be hitchin a ride on my clothing, man!
 
I am one of those who have never really been stared nor I have seen to the world so much, (but I have heard from foreigners in my town, how my people are bad in such and such)

Its funny to see that one of the most polite countries in the world is not so much more polite after all. ( still I think they have more polite culture than we have, though we are more free to express our thoughts.)

Living in Japan as a white guy is of course all about being gaijin, you will never be anything more in than gaijin when you live in Japan, is the expression I got when I left.

Attitude like this will probably be quite annoying in a long run.
 
If that's really the most annoying thing about living in Japan, Japan must be like a heaven.
it is! (according to me)
:jama:
no, more seriousely i don't (can't) understand the people who are complaining about this little liiiiitle things...
''i hate when someone compliment me''...
where do you come from? i'm not saying that you have to make burst your ego, but there isn't any complain to do about it...
seriously...
((PS: excuse my english))
 
fuma_kamui, you spell the word "are" very well. Where did you learn to do that so well?
 
Summer sunrise

I'm an early riser, but having the sun come up at 4:30 am doesn't seem to benefit anyone, but the elderly who go to sleep at 8 pm. I'm all for day light saving time so we can make better use of the daylight in the evening.
 
I don't live in Japan yet, but have been here for about a month. What bothers me, or makes me personally feel bad is how I am avoided by the Japanese. For instance, on the train morning or afternoon rush, if there is a spot available next to me, no one will sit there; they stand. Or, if I sit down next to someone and another seat at the next stop is available they will get up and move. It makes me feel alienated. Also, we have breakfast every morning at the hotel restaurant, and all but 3 times since I have been here has the waitstaff taken my dirty dishes away. I made a comment to my husband, and now he too does see the little ways I am treated differently. At dinner last night they took his tray, he waited and then finally asked for someone to take mine away. I get told that it's not personal, but I probably make the Japanese uncomfortable. Oh my favorite, we count who collects the most free tissues over the week end...husband 20 packets, me 2! So all in all I suppose these things aren't too big of a deal. It just makes me feel sad, and that I'll never have friends here outside of family, co-workers and perhaps other foreigners.
 
I'm mostly annoyed by the hypocracy of the film industry in Japan. This is a pretty decadent place by western standards, seeing as how you can get a hand doogy in several parts of Tokyo w/ little effort and little money. So, I must ask this question: What is up w/ the mosaiced genetalia?
 
I've heard that most of the laws like that were put in place during the American occupation and now everyone insists on keeping them without really being able to explain why.


One of my pet peeves arrived with school lunch today: those thick, shallow tinfoil "cupcake" trays, used in the preparation of egg dishes and pastries. They cut my hands, make the food taste like metal, and are a tremendous waste of metal. If food can't be prepared without these things, it's not worth eating.
 
You better get used to it Goldie and don't take it so personally or you'll end up like alot of foreigner in coming to despise Japan just because you don't understand the underlying aspects of the culture and the way they think.

Alot of people refuse to sit next to foreigners on a train because they are deathly afraid the foreigner may speak to them in English or another language and they will not be able to speak to them or assist them. The Japanese are shy by nature and do not want to take the chance that a foreigner may speak to them. They also doubt their own ability in English even if they can speak it fairly well. Therefore, to avoid this embarrassment and potential confrontation they avoid it altogether by not taking a seat next to you.

More times than not, as you live longer in Japan, you'll notice that it does not happen as often as you think and those that do sit next to you will often open a book, magazine, or even begin to write in English with the hope that maybe you will speak to them. It is their way of saying, "Hey, I can speak English so please feel free to talk to me." I noticed, as a male, that quite a few women did this and it was fairly easy to meet them when they threw up that "billboard". However, in 99% of the cases they will not speak to you first, but if you were to ask them a question, they would be more than glad to answer you. More often than not though, those that do sit next to you will just go about their business of reading or sleeping. Understand WHY they do not want to sit next you (fear) and you'll feel better about yourself and the Japanese in general.

It just makes me feel sad, and that I'll never have friends here outside of family, co-workers and perhaps other foreigners.
Please do not feel that way. Live long enough in Japan and you will have more friends than you can count and they will, for the most part, be loyal friends too. It just takes time and patience and an understanding that when Japanese avoid you it is mostly because they do not want to take a chance of you speaking to them. They fear that they cannot answer you and out in public they will feel humiliated and embarrassed in that everyone will be looking at them.

Tissues? Just put your hand out and you'll get your fair share. It's just that alot of foreigners do not take the tissues so they don't offer them. Me, I liked having them on me and always put my hand out and was never refused.
 
Thanks for the uplifting reply Pachipro! I like those tissues. I need them to dry my hands after using the restrooms. They never have hand towels only those blowers which I just don't get as they never really dry your hands! I am feeling more sure of myself here, I am able to go out and about and go shopping, to the bookstore and clothes store. Speaking a little more Japanese has helped a lot. Although I'm very limited at least I can connect more with salespeople etc. I was happy to hear that when I get back to the US I will be taking Japanese language class. I now understand that I REALLY need to learn the language if I want to fit in here. I want so much to be a part of life here, not just an observer. I will say too, that any Japanese I try is appreciated by those I am trying to speak to and everyone is patient, which helps because as my feelings of pressure increase, my ability to speak decreases! Thanks, again Pachipro, sometimes a different perspective gives you the boost you need!
 
Alot of people refuse to sit next to foreigners on a train because they are deathly afraid the foreigner may speak to them in English or another language and they will not be able to speak to them or assist them.

I've often heard this 'afraid of being asked a question in English' excuse for this disagreeable behaviour. Even though I accept this probably is the case, it shows a lack of consideration for the feelings of the person who is being shunned. This lack of empathy shows up in many of the 'standard' Japanese behavioural traits towards foreigners. Sometimes it seems that as long as the Japanese person doesn't get embarrassed or lose face, whatever the foreigner feels is irrelevant.
 

Hold on a second now, you are making an assumption that the person that is supposedly "shunning" the foreigner is knowingly doing it. I am more than willing to bet that is not the case. Pachipro's explanation fits to a "T".

You could go on a crusade here and "attempt" to get the Japanese population to "understand" your point of view but in the long run it's just wasted breath. Get used to it, the sooner the better, then you won't feel shunned any more.

Dont assume either that "all" foreigners welcome or want the Japanese person to sit down next to them too. Personally I'm glad they don't choose to sit down, particularly since I am over 193cm tall and weigh @110 kg. Makes things kind of tight at times.
 
Hold on a second now, you are making an assumption that the person that is supposedly "shunning" the foreigner is knowingly doing it. I am more than willing to bet that is not the case. Pachipro's explanation fits to a "T".
Yes, I agree Pachipro's explanation is probably correct- I've heard it from other people too. Maybe 'shunning' wasn't the best word- but if the person doing the 'shunnng' does it unknowingly then it backs up my idea that they have no empathy.

Of course there's no way I would ever attempt to change Japanese behaviour, how could I? I don't even get that annoyed about it (anymore), but this strange, and I have to say rude, behaviour still makes me sigh from time to time. Hopefully if I stay here long enough (which I intend to do) I'll reach that tolerance nirvana that you and other long-timer posters seem to have reached ...
 
It happens frequently to me as well. I will be sitting by someone on the train during rush, even reading a Japanese newspaper, completely minding my own business, and the other person still gets up to move at the next available seat. Not as frequently as if I were doing nothing or reading English, but it still occurs.

It was similar to the situation I found myself in the other day in fact, next to a woman that took that last open bus seat with obvious reluctance and the look of surprise on her face when I continued reading without spraying her with germs or bugging her about something in English was priceless. .

On the positive side, foreigners who look obviously lost or confused and don't speak Japanese are often given assistance in English. Even if what you're saying in Japanese is completely clear and perfectly understandable, the responses are often still in English. Empathic or unconsciously rude and racist or simply free language practice ? I can appreciate all perspectives and most likely it is a combination of all the above. Just another thing to accept along with all the benefits of life over there.
I think they try to give them out first to people who look more like potential customers. I've never reached for them if that is the reason. Try approaching them or anyone who appears lost in their own world with a few words in Japanese when you feel more comfortable with it and their true personality will suddenly begin to show through the shyness. The kindness and quick responsiveness received in return will be overwhelming.
 
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