Question Please read scroll title Guo Ziyi

Ger · 6 Jan 2022

Please read the text found on this scroll while it's rolled up.
It shows Guo Ziyi.
I suppose with his grand children.

Toritoribe · 6 Jan 2022

家族？集合之画
I can't identify the third kanji.

Is there any reason why you think it shows Guo Ziyi?

Ger · 6 Jan 2022

Toritoribe said:
家族？集合之画
I can't identify the third kanji.

Is there any reason why you think it shows Guo Ziyi?

My try had been 宇族[妹妓?]集[令合?] but I could not make sense out of it,
If it reads 家族妹集合之画 it looks like a description of the scene (family....gathering) or is it the name of the painter?

I know a strikingly similar painting, signed and sealed and described as showing 郭子儀 Guo Ziyi (Japanese: Kakushigi)
He is shown probably with his many ((grand)grand)children.

If the line is the title, and it is him, it is strange it does not mention 郭子儀.
But the text has been added later on.

Ger · 6 Jan 2022

By the way, at the bottom it is marked with two characters (?月) as attached.
What would it mean?
(the thumbnails do not show the full image, rather confusing, so please click them to see it)

Toritoribe · 6 Jan 2022

I don't think the third character is 妹 (or 妓, either).

Is it possible to show us the strikingly similar painting of Guo Ziyi you mentioned?

The two kanji is 正月, i.e., "new year". It would mean that the scroll is appropriate to hang up in tokonoma(alcove) on new year's.

Ger · 6 Jan 2022

Toritoribe said:
I don't think the third character is 妹 (or 妓, either).

Is it possible to show us the strikingly similar painting of Guo Ziyi you mentioned?

The two kanji is 正月, i.e., "new year". It would mean that the scroll is appropriate to hang up in tokonoma(alcove) on new year's.

Sure...

Ger · 6 Jan 2022

Another thing, the painting is not signed while I think it certainly has qualitiy. Since almost all kakejiku I encounter are sigend and/or sealed I wonder - is there a special reason?
E.g. one of a set of paintings, or clipped, or a preliminary sketch, or unfinished design, or shunga,... but this one does not look like that.

Ger · 6 Jan 2022

Both paintings having Guo Ziyi seated in a chair, the right one judging by his arms and legs.

Toritoribe · 6 Jan 2022

Well, it's just "similar", and it seems to me that your scroll has nothing to do with Guo Ziyic...

Ger · 7 Jan 2022

Here are some more examples showing Guo Ziyi seated in a chair, with a pointed white beard and surrounded by his (legendary) large family.

Vase with Birthday Reception for General Guo Ziyi
The identity of Guo Ziyi, who achieved the rank of prince of Fenyang after suppressing the An Lushan rebellion, is confirmed by the inscription "Fenyang Manor" (Fenyang fu) above the entrance to the residence.

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/48767

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Folding screen with birthday celebration for General Guo Ziyi
DP211786.jpg

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/64086

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Guo Ziyi (the elder sitting in the picture) held a banquet at home, and the children and grandchildren gathered together.

https://i.epochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2018/05/be55b31f95c47f3d8dd8c0d1f55d1a2d.jpg

郭子儀功高蓋世為何不招人嫉

郭子儀領兵，護守大唐，權傾天下威震一方，沒有引起朝廷忌恨；功高蓋世也沒有引起皇帝猜疑。郭子儀一生富貴壽考，其子孫皆是朝中重臣，汾陽王人道之盛，青史流芳。

www.epochtimes.com

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【真作】藤幾鶴舟/郭子儀図/掛軸宝船 S‐576 JM - Yahoo!オークション

ヤフオクを世界へ - Japan Auctions to the World 【真作】【参考】藤幾鶴舟【作品状態】本紙は絹本肉筆です。本紙は薄汚れ、多少の巻シワあります。表装は絹表装で概ね良好です。桐合せ箱付軸丈

page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp

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【売約済】掛軸＜塩川文麟＞三幅対郭子儀・春秋山水図塩川文麟添え状有（HP388）｜掛け軸や骨董品の販売・買取なら株式会社縁［大阪］

塩川文麟の作品には稀少といえる、極彩色の作品です。さらに三幅対の上作で保存状態も良好となれば、探してもそうそう見つかる物ではありません。どうぞ細部まで刮目していただきたい。郭子儀は武将として自らが大…

www.art-en.jp

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円山応瑞（まるやまおうずい）「郭子儀図」二尺 (京都) | 掛け軸・日本画の販売ギャラリー黎（ギャラリーレイ）

作者円山応瑞（まるやまおうずい）作品名「郭子儀（かくしぎ）図」二尺技法日本画形態軸装サイ

www.gallery-rei.com

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Toritoribe · 7 Jan 2022

Yes, Guo Ziyi is popular as a theme of the one who has many children and grandchildren, so it could be him, but it doesn't always refer to him in all pictures of similar themes, just in my opinion. (I mean, there still is a possibility that the old man is not him.)

Ger · 7 Jan 2022

Toritoribe said:
Yes, Guo Ziyi is popular as a theme of the one who has many children and grandchildren, so it could be him, but it doesn't always refer to him in all pictures of similar themes, just in my opinion. (I mean, there still is a possibility that the old man is not him.)

Guo Ziyi stands for happiness, wealth, longevity,... which would explain why, quote, "It would mean that the scroll is appropriate to hang up in tokonoma(alcove) on new year's."

Toritoribe · 7 Jan 2022

And Guo Ziyi is not the only one symbol for those things...

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【真作】藤幾鶴舟/郭子儀図/掛軸宝船 S‐576 JM - Yahoo!オークション

【売約済】掛軸＜塩川文麟＞三幅対郭子儀・春秋山水図塩川文麟添え状有（HP388）｜掛け軸や骨董品の販売・買取なら株式会社縁［大阪］

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