New "motto" for my karate club

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Peter Milne

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• 29 Feb 2020

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Hello kind folks.

I'd like three words translated into kanji please, it is to become the new "motto" for my karate club and will be displayed on the club branding:

Belong, aspire, achieve.

Hope this is possible. Many thanks!

 

Toritoribe

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• #2

What do you want to imply in those words? Belong to the club, aspire to something and achieve it in the club?

 

joadbres

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• 1 Mar 2020

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Peter Milne said:

I'd like three words translated into kanji please, it is to become the new "motto" for my karate club and will be displayed on the club branding:

Belong, aspire, achieve.

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More questions:
Do you have a preference for how many Japanese characters the motto should be limited to (to fit within a logo, etc.), or is any length OK?
Could the motto use the noun forms of the words instead (i.e., meaning, roughly, "belonging", "aspiration", "achievement"), if that helps produce a more concise Japanese version?

Different languages don't always have a 1-to-1 correspondence with each other, so there are sometimes tradeoffs like these which you need to consider when making a translation.

 

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SomeCallMeChris

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joadbres said:

how many Japanese characters

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At the risk of making a rude and unnecessary intrusion on the discussion... as a lapsed karateka and current student of Japanese, I personally think that the best answer to the question would be one or more 四字熟語 (4-character idiom) on the theme. This may just be my personal bias as I really like the aesthetic of 四字熟語 banners on the walls of a dojo.

Also I'm never adverse to learning a new 4-character idiom myself.

 

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Peter Milne

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• #5

You got it, that's exactly what I was going for. I would prefer to have as few characters as possible, although it does need to make sense. A close translation to Japanese would be great, I understand how difficult it can be to get this 1-1.

Thanks!

 

Toritoribe

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My attempt

所属 大志 成就

 

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Peter Milne

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• #7

That's great, thank you!

 

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Since it's not a phrase and actually three separate words, especially if you intend to put this on a patch or logo/design, I would physically separate them like 所属・大志・成就