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Monbukagakusho Scholarship for Postgraduate!!

I'm going to weigh in on the language thing and say that:

a) what school and what department and what professor will determine how much japanese you need to or even will be able to use. If your professor tells you you don't need japanese, you probably won't need japanese (to study).

b) the language course, though intense, will not prepare you for 2kyuu, nor is there any realistic hope of getting there within 6 months (unless A] you already know kanji from studying chinese/korean and study exclusively for the test, to the detriment of actually acquiring Japanese skills or B) are a very motivated korean).

Your language course may be attached to a university, in which case it will be on a semester system, and though it says 6 months, it will likely be 3.5 months, on par with a normal semester, meaning that to improve very quickly, it will be incumbent upon you personally to go beyond the scope of your course. The waseda course for beginners, after one semester, puts you somewhere between 4kyuu and 3kyuu.

Another thing is that if you are placed in a dorm, you are likely to be put in a social environment where using Japanese is not entirely necessary and where the lingua franca will be English, at least among graduate students (a split developed here between Japanese language students, or those who came with high level language skills, and those who came without any). Also, as the general expectation for those who do not look asian is that they do or at least can speak english, even if you want to immerse yourself in Japanese, it can be a battle. I am borderline 1kyuu level myself, and keeping the conversation in Japanese, even if it is the stronger shared language, can be a battle.

But you'll see what I mean...


PS: I don't mean to discourage anyone. Just keep the expectations realistic. The curve of language improvement seems exponential (until you reach a certain level anyway) rather than linear, so the jump between 6 months and 1 year, or from 1 year to 1.5 years, is probably much greater than the first 6 months. That's why coming over with something, anything, in terms of language skills, is, in my mind, so important.
 

Just curious. You're going in October, you're still taking the 6 months japanese language course? So there will be no research student stage? or they'll cramp both together?
 
Yeah, MEXT is good. I don't want to turn you down but as far as I know, all kind of Government scholarship will support you well (not organization scholarship). However, I think one advantage of MEXT is that you can extend this for PhD while other scholarship couldn't.
 
>ooilingfan

Maybe Charles can answer that for us?

I think the October intake will be 6 months Japanese language, then 1 year research student phase, as compared to the April intake - 6 months Japanese language, 1 1/2 year research student phase. Then you can sit for the entrance examination while you are in research student phase. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
The time of entrance exam is vary from which University you applied. In my case, if I go to Japan in April, may be, I will take the Entrance exam at September which mean I have only 5 months for preparation. Luckily, I learned Japanese a lot before (4 years at University). However, I don't use Japanese for more than a year and I forgot the words.
I still wonder about how the 6 months of Japanese training different for people studied Japanese before and people who don't know Japanese before going to Japan. Is there anyone experience about it.
 
>luckyme

Remember we took the English and Japanese test for the preliminary selection? They will decide our Japanese level on that. For some language schools (I understand that we will go to language schools, rather than university in most cases), they will hold another competency test to decide the level of our Japanese, so that they can allocate us into the appropriate classes.
 
>c0ok1e, menrui
I was thinking, why are our supervisors asking us to fill in our CV for them (Are there any special reasons, since they can make a copy of our application form being sent to them)?
i have no idea. maybe they didnt read our MEXT application? one of my professors asked for a CV, and i just sent him my application. he said that was fine.

i also have a thought. if you are part of the october intake, do you have to wait until august to receive results from the university?
 
>menrui
Hopefully not. You are making me more and more desperate.
But from what I have read from this forum, those who went for October intake received their results along with others.
Hope that it will be the same this year.
 
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oh haha, sorry about that. i just wanted to confirm if we all should be waiting for february.
 
=.=''

February is just 16 days away.
Hang in there, guys.
We're all going to make it.
Grind through 10-20 kanjis a day and before you know it, poof, February is here.
=)
 
though february is 16 days ahead news are slowly making their way through

i've just received an email from the secretary of my professor, asking if i want to apply to the international dorms...(sounds like the one Parady got earlier)
does it mean they're expecting me, or what?

though, according to Nall-ohki, i can't be sure yet...still it seems that MEXT contacted the university and is making progress...

can't wait to call the embassy in the morning, to find out their side of the story...
 

DISCLAIMER: It could vary greatly depending on what school you attend and I only have Waseda as a reference (I feel like I need to attach this to every generalization I make).

Research student phase and language student phase maybe is not the best way to think about it. While everyone who has come to Waseda is taking Japanese language classes during the first 6 months, everyone is also taking at least one class in his respective graduate school. I am taking 3 classes in my graduate school and 7 classes in the japanese school (don't ooh and ahh, its not as much work as it sounds).

Also, it is possible here to continue taking japanese classes as long as you are on the scholarship. So even though I will enter the master's program officially next semester, I will probably at least take a couple more language classes then, and maybe even one or two keigo classes next fall.

The important differentiations are not language student/research student but rather regular student (officially enrolled in masters/phd) vs irregular student (not officially enrolled). Best to think of the division in that way.
 
>> Charles,
What do you learn in your Graduate school while you are at the first 6 months of Japanese training? Do you have to do homework and receive mark?
Do you have to pay money for the Keigo class?
I also want to improve English. Is the school offer any free English class?
 
>Charles
So does that mean that you are taking your Japanese courses in Waseda itself, but not Tokyo Language School? Have you heard of the other students (your friends, maybe) whom they are learning Japanese at places which are not their graduate schools? (e.g. students to be research student in Tokyo University, but they have to learn their Japanese at another place, such as Osaka?) I read it some where that some research students will have to do so.
 
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i think that's a good point. It's good for us to know where we'll be taking our language course before confirming our dorms cause we might be heading to a different place first.
 
Oh... something that I would like to say about a post long time ago. The posts have been increasing in an amazing rate.
In my opinion, not every university will be contacting us directly. For the previous years, I think those in Malaysia received a phone call and a mail package informing them about the outcomes of the scholarship application.
However, some universities will send in their packages as well. Most professors will not contact us directly. It is either through the admission office (International Student Office) or the secretary of your professor. But I think the contact from the professor is quite a rare case. (But if you are informing them your results, it might another different story)
 
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What i meant was - if the university contacted you on the details - it's just an INDICATION that you're cleared of the final barrier - university placement. i didn't say it will be official. The official info always comes from the Embassy.
I will not say anything more if it confuses you guys. Just wait till Feb for the embassy's call.
 
>ooilingfan

I am sorry... What I was trying to say is that there are a number of things coming together when the results are announced. I was not implying that you are saying that, the correspondences from the university means the result is official.

By the way, the results came out in late February last year. I am expecting it to be almost that same time. That means more waiting for us.
 
Don't worry. We are all in the same boat. Let's all be optimistic. Whether it is early, mid or end-February, we should always keep an open mind that it is the home-stretch already. Let's all not get too worked up on certain items. Or else there's just no end to worrying...
 

The deal wih the MEXT scholarship and how it works at Waseda is that we are allowed to take, for free, classes in our respective graduate schools, the japanese language school attached to waseda (not all or maybe even many schools will have this, but waseda has its own Japanese language school that you can apply to if you just want to study japanese, or that people studying at Waseda who aren't on the scholarship can take classes at for a fee), and maybe even at other graduate schools attached to waseda. I don't think we are allowed to take undergradaute courses.

I receive grades in my Japanese classes but they will not appear on my master's degree so it doesn't really matter how I do. By fall of next year, I won't really have much Japanese left to study except perhaps keigo (by then study will be entirely equivalent to "use"), so that's why I said I will prolly take that class, and of course it will be free.

In the graduate school I am at now, almost all the classes are offered in english AND japanese, so yes, it is very easy for me to take English classes, and in fact all 3 of the classes I am taking now are held in English.

For my graduate program, one can apply up to 5 classes taken while a research student, in other departments, or at other schools to one's requirements for a master's degree after one has officially been received into a degree program. The grades I receive for the classes I am currently taking will appear as is when I eventually get my master's degree.


I have never heard of Tokyo language school.

I imagine that at smaller schools, or more specialist schools, there might not be language schools, so research students attending those schools might be sent to private, unaffiliated language schools. Sadly, I cannot answer your question with confidence because all of my friends here are either attending Waseda or Sophia, so I don't really know what it is like for those attending other schools.
 
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> Kouki,
I will try to wanswer you as much as I can.
As far as I know, undergraduate student will go to learn Japanese at Tokyo language schooll or Osaka language school for a year to prepare for their entrance exam at University. All undergraduate student will learn in Japanese and since they don't know which University they will study (because they have to pass the exam first), they will start their Japanese training at 2 school I give above.
Things will be different with Graduate student. MEXT will choose University for us before coming to Japan so if we need to learn Japanese, may be we will learn at the same University (some of us don't need to learn Japanese if course in English). I think most University you guys applied are big (for example: Tokyo, Waseda, ...). There are a lot of Graduate school in just one University (for example: Graduate School of law, of economics, language, engineering,...). So I think normally, we will learn japanese at the same University.
Please correct me if I wrong. I only know some of my friend's case and I guess it will be like that.
> Charles,
I have a friend learning Master at Tokyo University. He learn in English but he said that he was encourage to take Japanese classes and it's free.
What I want to know is that is there any English classes free? I mean that the class teaching English as a language, not using English in economic classes, etc. The English classes which will teach you how to write English report, thesis, as such some kind of TOEFL, IELTS test preparation classes. Actually, I took IELTS test and receive 6.5 in overall, but receive only 5.5 in speaking and writing so I want to improve them. Because
I know that we still need English even study in Japanese (since I learning economics) and the entrance exam also test translation from English to Japanese. Am I right?
 
@ abeeyo_q8

nice!

I'm in School of Human and Environmental Studies.

Any mail from the Uni? ^^
 
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