ME: the good, the bad, and the ugly

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A while ago [MENTION=33104]Hezam[/MENTION] asked me to compile my experiences in the Middle East (where I have actually lived longer than in Japan). I remember we used to have a lot of heated ME-related discussions here on the forum, but somehow they completely melted away after several regulars had complained about the alleged flood of threads not related to Japan (the very same people who railed against anime and Jpop, too). ;-)

Hezam said:
Can you please tell me about it, good and bad things you experienced, people, land, etc.? Please take your time to talk about it when ever you are free, I would really appreciate it because I value peoples' experience in the ME. Plus, please feel free to talk about anything, some people think if they talk about things that they dont like in Arab tradition Arab will be offended ... It's not true, actually it makes me laugh.

Sorry it took so long, Hezam. This is for you, and I'll keep it short.

The GOOD

First and foremost, hospitality. Never before or after have I experienced such generosity and kindness as among Arab people. As a guest of an Arab family you're certain to be spoiled and pampered, downright occupied and protected from harm, literally treated as a part of the family... or even better. That belief transpires throughout all social classes and seems to be a pillar of Arab society. Hospitality goes hand in hand with a sense of helpfulness that's unparalleled. If you run into problems - in particular as a foreigner - prepare for townsfolk gathering in droves, wildly engaged in debating the best way to help the stranger. The downside: if you're a lady you might find their help and their interpretation of protection quite obtrusive (non-Islamic females are often regarded as fair game).

The rich food: if you are into lamb, spices, tabouleh, fool beans, chickpeas, olive oil, cumin, rice, pita bread, goat cheese, whether it's the rustic food of Egypt or the elaborate delicacies of Lebanon, you'll enjoy culinary delights beyond imagination.

The culture, the history, the biblical landscape: whether you're an admirer of Lawrence of Arabia, a desert junkie or a history buff, wherever you set your foot thousands of years of history have actually taken place: Ancient Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Sumerians, Akkadians, Nubians, Phoenicians, Hittites, Medes, Persians, and countless others have left their mark on the region, even before Judaism, Christianity, and Islam shaped the ME. And let's not forget that it was the Arabs logicians who transmitted the classics of ancient Greek philosophy to Europe.

That abundance of cultural diversity is confusing yet fascinating.

The BAD (and sometimes UGLY)

- Hypocrisy: the strict rules of Islam and the resourcefulness used to circumvent them ("temporary" marriages, the gluttony in Ramadan, etc)

- the inability to discuss religious matters, the inability to have an open religious discourse without being branded as heathen or heretic

- the obvious lack of discipline (in traffic and in many other situations of daily life)

- fatalism: "insha'Allah" (God's will) abused as an excuse for sloth and apathy

- excessive emotionality and a propensity for drama (although I love it in Arabic music and old Egyptian movies)


That's all I can think of now, I shall expand that list if anything else comes to mind. This was scribbled in a bit of a hurry.

By the way, I found this account - written by an Arab-American girl - quite amusing:

25 Things I Hate about Arabs

Not to be taken too literal.
 
I thought for a minute we were going deep into your personal life when I saw the "ME" in the thread title , LOL.

Uncle Frank
 
Sorry to disappoint you, Frank! ;-)

Not about *me*, just a few of *my* random thoughts on the ME.
 
A while ago [MENTION=33104]Hezam[/MENTION] asked me to compile my experiences in the Middle East (where I have actually lived longer than in Japan). I remember we used to have a lot of heated ME-related discussions here on the forum, but somehow they completely melted away after several regulars had complained about the alleged flood of threads not related to Japan (the very same people who railed against anime and Jpop, too). ;-)Sorry it took so long, Hezam. This is for you, and I'll keep it short.
The GOODFirst and foremost, hospitality. Never before or after have I experienced such generosity and kindness as among Arab people. As a guest of an Arab family you're certain to be spoiled and pampered, downright occupied and protected from harm, literally treated as a part of the family... or even better. That belief transpires throughout all social classes and seems to be a pillar of Arab society. Hospitality goes hand in hand with a sense of helpfulness that's unparalleled. If you run into problems - in particular as a foreigner - prepare for townsfolk gathering in droves, wildly engaged in debating the best way to help the stranger. The downside: if you're a lady you might find their help and their interpretation of protection quite obtrusive (non-Islamic females are often regarded as fair game).The rich food: if you are into lamb, spices, tabouleh, fool beans, chickpeas, olive oil, cumin, rice, pita bread, goat cheese, whether it's the rustic food of Egypt or the elaborate delicacies of Lebanon, you'll enjoy culinary delights beyond imagination.The culture, the history, the biblical landscape: whether you're an admirer of Lawrence of Arabia, a desert junkie or a history buff, wherever you set your foot thousands of years of history have actually taken place: Ancient Egyptians, Mesopotamians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Sumerians, Akkadians, Nubians, Phoenicians, Hittites, Medes, Persians, and countless others have left their mark on the region, even before Judaism, Christianity, and Islam shaped the ME. And let's not forget that it was the Arabs logicians who transmitted the classics of ancient Greek philosophy to Europe. That abundance of cultural diversity is confusing yet fascinating.The BAD (and sometimes UGLY)- Hypocrisy: the strict rules of Islam and the resourcefulness used to circumvent them ("temporary" marriages, the gluttony in Ramadan, etc)- the inability to discuss religious matters, the inability to have an open religious discourse without being branded as heathen or heretic- the obvious lack of discipline (in traffic and in many other situations of daily life) - fatalism: "insha'Allah" (God's will) abused as an excuse for sloth and apathy- excessive emotionality and a propensity for drama (although I love it in Arabic music and old Egyptian movies)That's all I can think of now, I shall expand that list if anything else comes to mind. This was scribbled in a bit of a hurry.By the way, I found this account - written by an Arab-American girl - quite amusing:25 Things I Hate about ArabsNot to be taken too literal.
A i've never read a just , fair & true article from a western person like this before! i can see and feel the experience that you have been through in each line you wrote above.i don't know how long it took you to make a fair balance between Good and Bad things in the ME! i mean if any Arab/Middle Eastern person read your post i'm pretty sure he/she will have a moment of silence that reflects satisfaction all around his/her face.When i finished reading your post i felt a bit suprised, it makes me happy to see a VERY fair posts &thoughts about the ME especially when they come from people who lived part of their life in the ME.This post, This experience means too much to me and to every Arab/Muslim person because it describes the people as they really are, It's built on daily life and daily experiences, Plus the post doesn't offend, insult, or humiliate people's culture,race,faith. It's just as good as it should be !There is absolutely no need for me to discuss the points above, I feel it's very fair.Thank you so much Thomas for sharing some of your experiences,advantures & thoughts about the ME, i really appreciate it and i hope you visit the region after everything gets better for the people's good.Best regards ME :)
 
Reminiscing, Hezam, I sometimes miss those evenings sitting in a cafe on the banks of the Nile, smoking a shisha tuffah (a water pipe with apple-flavoured tobacco), while listening to Umm Kulthoum singing in the background. :)
 
Reminiscing, Hezam, I sometimes miss those evenings sitting in a cafe on the banks of the Nile, smoking a shisha tuffah (a water pipe with apple-flavoured tobacco), while listening to Umm Kulthoum singing in the background. :)
i miss those cafes too, Saudi Arabia is a hard place to live in. :(
 
A while ago I had an offer to work in Saudi Arabia, but I ended up here instead. This thread has made me think I ought to take some time to visit and maybe explore my options of living and working there again.

Thanks!
 
A while ago I had an offer to work in Saudi Arabia, but I ended up here instead. This thread has made me think I ought to take some time to visit and maybe explore my options of living and working there again.Thanks!
I would recommend you to visit the ME 10 years ago but now it's on the edge of hell. I recommend you 2 countries that i expect to be safe and stable for the nest 10 years..Oman and Saudi Arabia.
 
Very interesting summary about a region of the world that interests me, though to be honest, am afraid to take my wife to visit.
 
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