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Japanese War Crimes Against Humanity

Iron Chef,

I respect your idea and decision because I believe you did the right thing. As for Serpico's deleted post, I don't think anyone would have condoned the vulgar language used in it. Until you showed what was actually deleted, no one could know but you and Serpico, so followed the confusion. Sometimes when the sensitive words are blipped out, there's really no telling whether the writer blipped it out him/herslef, the vBcode, or a moderator. Perhaps there can be a moderated stamp saying "moderated"--to let us know. You can't always be graceful and subtle to save face. Just my opinion. Thanks, Iron Chef.
 
Maybe I will drop my comments:

The thing about war crimes, looking into the past is always troublesome, because you just can't get people to see the world in the same way. We have a similar problem here in Poland: during WWII hundreds of Polish officers were murdered in Katyn by the order of Stalin. When the Germans found out, the Russinas blamed them and said it was manslaughter. Now that we know it was the Russians, they won't said anything beside it being just an ordinary murder.

What's my point? I can really identify with the Russians. I mean, the USSR is gone, and Russia's political power has decreased over the last decade (although it is still great). And now you have people taking things from 60 years back - what the hell? So I think that's the way Japanese might be thinking.
 

Two points to make:

1. The CCP dictatorship is indeed a problrm that the Chinese have not yet solved. But the by-product of CCP dictatorship needn't be exaggerated. True, the CCP is not willing to be democratic, but it is doing increasingly better than before, despite the fact that it can't, for the time being, overome the ideological barriers it has set for China and for itself as well. China is liberalising beyond CCP's relatively firm-handed control. And within China we have optimism that CCP in its transformation into something like a social democratic party, ( too optimistic yet, though, i am afraid personally)

2. CCP-controlled China is on good, freindly, mutrally-beneficial terms with outside world. But if Japan iwere excluded, we just can't help. Is Japan on good terms with its other Asian neighbors?
 
Tonysoong said:
2. CCP-controlled China is on good, freindly, mutrally-beneficial terms with outside world. But if Japan iwere excluded, we just can't help. Is Japan on good terms with its other Asian neighbors?
I would disagree here. CCP might indeed be credited with China's impressive economic development, however I don't thing the Party did it out of willingness to make life better for Chinese or for anyone else. I think that ultimately CCP regards economy as purely a tool to strengthen China's political position. It is completely natural for other countries to oppose it.

I think Chinese are quite similar to Russians. It goes like this: I love Russians, my friends are Russian, very good people. Just one thing - they have that sudden urge to conquer the world. It doesn't normaly show in ordinary people (as they can't do anything) but it is reflected in politicians. For me that is simply an irreplaceable part of being the Russian. I think of a Chinese the same way - they are great people, kind and with great history. They just want to conquer everything. Again, it doesn't show in ordinary people - but it does for CCP.
 
To be fair, try replacing China with America. You will be amazed how smooth the sentences run. It must be that way with most big countries with enough military virtue to tout. What's really scary is to have the head, or family, of the killing/warring machines on top driving the nation's citizens to war. They are good at it, and they enjoy it, making something on the side while at it. Who wouldn't ? People like those should rot in hell is my prediction.
 
Followup

shiroma said:
Some people are looking forward to witnessing a petit cultural revolution there, based on an interesting retroactive witch-hunt law (news report.)

Panel Begins Probe of pro-Japanese Acts

Collaboration Truth Committee Set to Start Work
 

Needless to view the whole matter in that gloomy way. Living in China, i am convinced that the CCP is now trying to do a good job out of their good will despite the fact that they have ever wronged the Chinese nation. CCP is now increasigly pragmatic than before, even ideologically speaking.
 
In the past especially during world war 2, many people considered Japan as an expansionist and dangerous country.Today i think that the situation has been reversed, in my opinion China is now the number one threat for smaller countries for example Taiwan.
 

I've read your posts and thoroughly enjoy them. I think that other guy gets his facts from wikipedia...ahhaha...Japan doesn't have the highest percentage of sex slaves. And if there are sex slaves then they are well paid ! not like Thailand or Borneo where they are forced against there own will because contracts and food. If you really think about it Japan is the best place to be a prostitute because of the money ,so coming here is a hookers dream
 

Who are you and where are you from ? I understand your source of frustration because everything you said is 100% true ! It's just you express too much emotion and use alot of strong language. I agree with you though.
 

Good post ! I agree with you. Actually, I go to the library once a week and I have no problem finding information on anything actually. It's not like the Japanese can't find out about what happened during WW2, it's just that they don't give a " you know what"
 
Democracy or not at present has nothing to do with crimes done in WWII - it's a different issue.

Plus democray is not absolute either... "freedom of speech" only applies to some. Suppose some Middle East background individual openly stating that he does not like Bush and that he demands that Bush pull US troops out of Iraq, do you really think that the guy would be allowed to stand there and say whatever he want? Before he knows it, he'd be stalked by FBI officers every day -_- Just a simple example, lots of examples like that now that the War against Terror is at its climax.

Not saying that democracy is bad... just pointing out some similarity between communist policies and democrats policies. Anyway, I guess this is really beside the topic of this thread. Though I think these WWII related topics should be placed in the "Japanese News & Hot Topics" section, is it not "HOT" enough...
 

Quite probable (.... Must have been McTojo on a good day!). But there may also be other factors to be considered when the information becomes "too sensitive". This is a reply to one of my own posts on another forum - when I was bemoaning a lack of some material on the Japanese war .... the bold italics are my own.


For those interested by the way - the link to the forum is here ... at ...


Just a few passing thoughts on the subject ....

ジョン
 
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