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Is it true that white guys can't go to Japanese clubs?

Lestat84

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I heard this from a person who went to japan and was unable to go to clubs there. I want to know if this is true or not and why?
 
There are stories that westerners aren't allow to enter certain places... but I have never seen them and I think that you should see it more as "outsiders" (not just foreigners).

I think the only things that you will have is that certain people might look strange at you as in "what is this gaijin doing here".
 
Clubs always have a right to refuse entry.

However in western civilization to do so consistently based on race would be deemed illigal.

It would probably result in fines and the clubs licence being revoked.

Unfortunately by western standards Japan is still miles behind in terms of civilization.

I mean come on - they don't even have the concept of post-nationalism there yet - lol
 
Someone told my friend, "We don't want the 'good Japanese girls' mingling with outsiders so you could b right davey. And steve, that's very true. Lacking post-nationalism lol.
 
Hi Guys, justed wanted to add that that way of seeing things is not only illegal, it is discrinination and racist. Something I don't think is healthy so a society. Particulaly when so much progress has benn made to fight centuries of thinking. Just a thought. Oh and I wanted to ask what is a Gaijin?
 
I'm well aware it's racist and discriminatory but Asia isn't the place to go if you like human rights. This discrimination may not be illegal there (I don't know, never been there). Also, think of the context, I believe gaijin means something like a white guy, foreigner, American, or outsider. Something like that is a good guess in context. Of course, you could just google it.
 
Gaijin has it's origin in the word Barbarian.

it means foreigner.

And idiot low caste / working class Japanese will bat it around and use it like it's ok.

they even have the term gaijkoku-jin - as if thats any better.

which to be completely honest is akin to saying "mr n1igger" instead of straight up "n1gger boi"

People will jump on to defend and give some "cultural" BS argument.

but by the same argument,

"hey that's just what we call black folk down here in the south"

The rich and posh in Japan ha ha that's another matter.

As anywhere, you won't get any of that crap with the ones who make things happen.

Japan is the same as everywhere else in that way.

Racism is reserved for the poor, afraid and dis-enfranchised.

The ones with money and influence where it counts, not even close to that level
 
It sounded pretty derogatory. I guess now I'll know when I go to japan if I get called that.
 
God help us.....the tired old "gaijin" vs. "gaikokujin" argument again. The most shopworn, threadbare, tired, and tiresome topic in all of gaijindom. And we get to hear it expertly analyzed by people whose entire knowledge of and familiarity with the subject arises from Google searches.
 
Hey, don't criticize me for Googling it. And if it's so beaten to death, lets drop the would be argument
 
The discrimination is indeed illegal in Japan. The problem is that there is no legal enforcement or penalties for it.

Just come and enjoy yourself. Avoid any club that has a sign prohibiting your entry as a foreigner, and seek out the others. Plenty to go around.
 
I'm not much of a club type person, I just was wondering cuz this sounded a bit preposterous.
 
I think you have this everywhere.

In Holland there are also places where certain kinds of people aren't really being welcomed friendly...
 
I assume you are referring to Morrocan dutch - White dutch relations there,

I am not sure it's really the same, TBH. The social systems behind this tension is complex and drawn out.

However there is not a single shop or establishment in Holland that would refuse entry to anyone of any race.

I honestly think that you are doing your country a disservice by suggesting that might be the case.

@Mike Cash,
I tell you what, You guy's stop using a term that is clearly offensive to enough people to make discussions about it "shopworn, threadbare, tired, and tiresome " and you won't ever have to talk about it again.
It really does make me wonder though why it is that people see the need to defend the use of that word
Are they really THAT afraid of having their culture diluted by the seduction of the west?
 
I've never been turned away from any establishment and I have been to quite a few (even some of the more seedier ones). One patron's money is as good as another I suppose and if I were to be turned away then I would be more than happy to spend my money elsewhere, no biggie imo.
 
Seven Stars: I can not at all understand the comment you directed at me.
 
Mike Cash said:
Seven Stars: I can not at all understand the comment you directed at me.
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He's criticizing you for defending the term and then getting angry at us for talking about it because it's already been discussed before. I think he's calling you a hypocrite in essence. That's my best guess. I can't say for certain.
 

I don't want to say too much about it because this thread is about Japan, but I am sure people get refused because of this in Holland. I am not talking about just Dutch Moroccans, but others as well. Of course there are no signs outside, or they would say it directly but they would make excuses that they don't have the right shoes that they need a card etc.
 

Yea often though, (and I am sure the case is the same in Japan), people get turned away simply because of the balance in the club.
for example if there are too many guys in the place then single guys or groups of guys will have more hurdles placed in front of them to get in.
The same is vica versa too.
Also if for example a large bunch of skinheads (racist neo-nazi's) were in the club, then the security would be doing their job properly if they tried to turn away ethnic people. This is because their job is Health and Safety.

The best way to stop a fight is to avoid it happening in the first place.

However if they have a sign up, or if it is quiet, then this is clearly not the case.

@LESTAT: Really not angry.
 
My mistake. I didn't mean to assume.
 
Naww man!! White guys are considered cool there because japanese guys and girls sometimes like to show off like : "look i have a gaijin friend with me !"
you just have to make good friends just before going to clubs and you are good to go.... thats what i did anyway but they didn't let me go in because i was 19 years old and the legal age is 20 years old !!!!
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh^t
 
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