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Interracial Couples

'Cross cultural' couple might be better as 'international couple' implies a strange meaning, I mean how can a couple be representative of all countries? But cross cultural could be a couple who is the same nationality but having different cultural backgrounds, i.e. Hispanic American with a Polish American.

Maybe cross-nationality/cross cultural couples?
 
Well most of my female friends dont really care if the guys asian,black or white but I think they would probably prefer a good looking black guy over the other two

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My parents implicitly try to get me to date inside my race, but I'm actually interested in dating outside my race.
 
I think if you are limited to what race you can date then you have something wrong with you. Its basically like saying o I canot date you becuase your name is Anne or Anita or something like that. I personally met LOTS of people outside of my race that are really fun to be with and are really nice.
 
I taught that all the humans ware of the same race we are all humans.. but we all have our preferences every time I think of asking someone for a date I always picture how our kids would lock like if we got married . but my point is we are all of the same race ("or?"), people should be more out going and not care to much about there parents opinions in mater of partner, it's your life it's about not there's you are the one that is going to do the living. But parents sometimes can be to stubborn and have to make things to difficult, but I am a half Finish/Moroccan, so I don't think my parents would mind if I dated people of other parts of the world.
 
Nowadays,individuals are freer to marry other races unlike there was social stigma in the past.


Still,outside world generally don't accept difference.
 
Hmmm....I never really thought that I was part of an interracial couple. When I look at my fiance I see my best friend, my lover, my partner in life, who just happens to be Japanese. I come from the midwest and life here moves at a slower pace, say than New York or California, but everyone here just accepts us as a loving couple. I didn't feel any stigma in Japan either. I don't think you shoud limit your choices in life...but that works both ways...you shouldn't only date out of your culture/race, or only in your culture/race. Basically date, go out with, live with, or marry some one who loves you, is honest, faithfull, who is accepting of your shortcomings. Don't just do something to annoy your parents, or make a statement, prove a point. Your only using the other person and thats wrong and not fair to yourself or them.
 
Hi, I am engaged with a Japanese-Canadian male, and I am a British female attending UBC in Vancouver, BC. When I was sitting at my Asian 100 lecture, I was told by one asian that there are more homosexual asian couples than Japanese men dating Caucasian women. I often even in a tolerent country like Canada, get starred at by other Asian men mostly, not out of contempt, but how novel it is that we are together. I also experienced being approached in private by other Asian men, I hope he is serious, since Asian men who date white men do so mostly out of fetish, and have no intention of marrying me, as they will return to their country to marry. I was appalued as he is in his own country called Canada, where he was born at Vancouver General Hospital.
I love Thomas (Kenichi) but I don't know how they will accept us in Japan. Would they think we are strange, or something novel each time? I don't like being seen as "Mezurashi" everywhere I go. I have never been there, but I wonder if it would be fun for us to pretend that I am the one who can speak a little Japanese, while he pretends he can only speak English (even though he is much much better than I). With his fluent Canadian accent, I am sure they would be shocked. He told me that if they act all prejudice, he wants to throw back a commedy of asking for a fork to eat noodles as I eat with chopsticks. Now what would they think of that? Every time, they speak to him in Japanese, I become his interpreter!
I find it that it is our fellow Caucasian women that are not interested in dating Japanese men too though. It is not that they are prejudiced, but some of my friends seeing the way others see us, do not want to go through being stared at like some novelty item. I cannot say that it is the Asian men that need to open their minds as much as the willingness of Caucasian women. I like to vouch on behalf of many of the Caucasian women that even if the Asian men met us half way, many are far from accepting them men.
 
ok...please educate me here what is "mezurashi"? Sure you'll get stared at when you two are together in Japan. My fiance was congratulated many times for being engaged to an American. I felt the stares and the looks, but if you open up and just be yourself, they soon see you as a regular person. I had my picture taken so many times I felt like a movie star, and everyone wanted to be in a picture with me. It was fun, never in my life will I ever have an experience like that again. The type of humor your fiance wants to use will not make a point with anyone. I got the feeling that sarcasm is not something the Japanese use or understand. So sure he can ask for a fork, they'll just think he's mentally slow or retarded and pity him. They won't understand the meaning. As I was told before my first trip to Japan, by the good people on this forum...just enjoy and have a great time.
 
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Thanks. We English are just as guilty in our past with our own share of fansy of things oriental. I hope they will be willing to give me Japanese Nationality if I marry him and have children in Japan.
 
They will want you to have kids! I was told 9 would be great! lol
 
ok...please educate me here what is "mezurashi"?

"Mezurashii" (note the different spelling) means "rare".

Sure you'll get stared at when you two are together in Japan. My fiance was congratulated many times for being engaged to an American.

Clyde Beatty used to get the same thing when he captured African lions, I'm sure.

How did it make you feel?

I felt the stares and the looks, but if you open up and just be yourself, they soon see you as a regular person. I had my picture taken so many times I felt like a movie star, and everyone wanted to be in a picture with me.

That gets real old, real quick.

It was fun, never in my life will I ever have an experience like that again. The type of humor your fiance wants to use will not make a point with anyone. I got the feeling that sarcasm is not something the Japanese use or understand.

It generally goes over like a lead balloon, yes.

So sure he can ask for a fork, they'll just think he's mentally slow or retarded and pity him. They won't understand the meaning. As I was told before my first trip to Japan, by the good people on this forum...just enjoy and have a great time.

You did both, and we're all very happy for you. Just keep in mind that visiting Japan and living in Japan are two entirely different propositions.
 
Yeah, I am sure that being stared at and having your picture taken all the time would get on your nerves after a while. I would think that the people I am close to there would now be over my "newness". I did kind of feel like I was being paraded around, but I was new to them and the first foreigner to be close to their inner circle. No other family or friends have married other than Japanese. Anyway, once was enough for me!

As for living in Japan...I don't have a real idea yet. My trip was short and I did all the typical touristy things, and it was my first visit so I was wide eyed and amazed at everything. Our next visit will be for 1-3 months, I think I would get a better idea and be able to make a more educated decision. We don't have any plans to live there on a permanent basis, we would like to just take extended visits.

I did enjoy and had a great time. I just had to relax and not worry about everything and not try to control things. Oh, the one thing though that sticks out in my mind though, is that I did feel more like an interraacial couple in Japan, but don't feel like that here in the US....
 
I got the feeling that sarcasm is not something the Japanese use or understand.
Yes, it does seem that sarcasm is not used ordinarily, as I've tried using it with native friends, but had to explain myself as such comments were taken literally.

And by the way, congrats.
 
Clyde Beatty used to get the same thing when he captured African lions, I'm sure.
How did it make you feel?

Exactly.

At first, I was kind of flattered by those reactions, but in no time, I was feeling like some kind of trophy.
 
Ok, but did it stop? I would like to think now that everyone knows me it wouldn't be such a big deal anymore. It is flattering to a point yet also scary, strange and just so different. They would never get the same reaction here. I even explained as much to all of them at dinner. I said that when my fiance and me walk through the mall or go out to dinner, no one assumes he's a foreigner/Japanese, they think we are both Americans first. When they here him speak they know he's not a native born American, yet they then assume he just recently became American, or is planning on it.
 
I think also because if he is married to you, he has "proven" to have accepted to be integrated into the "melting pot" of the USA. They should also give me Japanese nationality upon marrying Kenichi. I wonder what would happen to Kenichi if he became Kenichi Churnside in Japan, rather than Bex and Shaun (Kenichi) Watanabe? I could ask him to become a "Mukoyoushi" even though he is a first born child!
 
You both need to go to Japan together and see for yourselves how things would be for you. It's the only way to know. I was told by a few on Jref to visit Japan BEFORE we got married because there could be a chance I may have to live there. You really need to do the same and so does he. You can't make judgements and play what if games forever, sometimes you just have to be there in real life.
 

Thanks for the insight. You are definitely right! I am planning on going with him this June for at least 2 months for the initial visit. Hey, even if Japan doesn't work out for us, it won't destroy my marriage with him since he is also a Canadian! I can accept living in Canada, and we can also try living in England.
 

Yes, for the inner circle, they will get used to you. And folks you get to know in daily life will get used to you. Unfortunately, the arrival of each new day brings you people who don't know you and aren't used to you, so it never actually goes away.

That being said, taken all around things are much, much better for the foreigner living in Japan than they were even a decade or so ago. A lot of credit goes to the introduction of the JET system, whereby the youth of Japan get at least a modicum of exposure to foreigners and have the novelty worn off. And some credit must be given to the large influx of Nikkei-jin from South America, at least in areas where they are concentrated. Leaving aside the issue of how people may feel about having a large number of foreigners in their midst, at least they do get used to having us around. Or at least that is the case in a far larger number of places than used to be the case.

Even for me, working as a truck driver in Japan for quite a long while now, I can definitely see a difference compared to long ago. A difference of a degree I wouldn't find believable had I not experienced it myself. I used to get stared at and pointed at by random people on the street and in surrounding cars, but these days most folks don't bat an eye or give me a second glance. Even at places I go to load or unload these days my foreignness often goes entirely uncommented on, whereas in the past that would be the primary topic and there were even times when it was damned near impossible to even get my job done, since people in the offices would have one of two reactions when I took my paperwork in:

1. Look up, see a foreigner, and rapidly look down again praying to God that somebody else would go to wait on me....often resulting in quite a long wait while someone worked up the nerve.

2. Loudly exclaim, "Oh my God! A foreigner! What shall I do? I can't speak English!!!"

That was my daily routine for more years than I care to remember.

One place (a JA in Ibaraki Prefecture) even called my company, indignant that they had sent a foreigner, and demanded that I not be sent there again. The person at my company inquired what I had done to give offense. It turned out that my transgression was to drive into their gate while in the condition of not being Japanese. I hadn't even gotten out of the truck yet and they were on the phone already! They were assured that I could speak Japanese sufficiently to do my job, that I was not a danger to them, and asked to let me do my job. If they then had a complaint, they could call back and I wouldn't be sent again. Since I didn't find out about this until about two years afterwards, you may safely conclude that they were satisfied with my job performance.


When I got married 21 years ago, our plan was to reside in the U.S. We have actually done so for four of those years. Remember, life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

Oh, the one thing though that sticks out in my mind though, is that I did feel more like an interracial couple in Japan, but don't feel like that here in the US....

That's very interesting. For me it has been just the opposite. For most of the time I have been here I have always been the only foreigner in my life. I am surrounded entirely by Japanese, and until the advent of the internet had little to no contact with other foreigners, so I have always tended to forget that I am a foreigner, or at least not be aware of it to any great degree.
 
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Now I understand better why sometimes you seem to be out of touch.

Bexchurnside,

Good luck, I'm sure it will be okay. I wouldn't be too concerned about it, if your financee has been in Canada for his whole life, the two of you will be able to handle it. The cases where native Japanese move back to Japan seem less promising, as many once they return to being hammered back down forget why they left Japan in the first place; because they felt stifled. And that leaves any spouse in a sort of abandoned situation.

My wife always seems to go through reverse shock when she travels abroad, especially outside of Asia. She always has this idea that she standds out (actually, most people don't notice her, only the giant accompanying her..I get comments on my height even in the US)!
 
There's more interest in dating/marrying outside your race, and that's a given in any modern country. You travel more, more travellers come to your country and also the power of TV and internet exposes more people to things foreign. With all that its just normal for more inter racial dating/marrying to occur.
 
daarin wa gaikokujin

has anyone read this manga 'daarin wa gaikokujin ?' i'd be interested in getting any feedback about your reactions to it. i have a japanese buddy who is doing some interesting analysis of the manga looking at how tony's gaijinness has been constructed and the use of 'ase' (sweat) when the author draws herself to name two instances of where he's coming from.

cheers
 
I'm american and my fiance is a Japanese citizen...(hes only actually been to America once) and I consider us extremely lucky because we have had no objections from either side of the family. In fact, his mom is delighted that her son is marrying an American even though she herself doesnt speak any english
 
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