~i ?? what verb form is this?

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As part of my studies I am trying to go through Japanese songs I like and figure out what they really mean.

I am having a bit of trouble with this quote:

"kaze ni matagi tsuki e nobori" and "fui ni ware ni kaeri kurari"

Basically, my problem is this; I am familiar with the verb kaeru(to return, go home, etc.) for example, but I have no idea what form "kaeri" is of this verb.
 
Konnichiwa Eien23-san!
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I am familiar with the verb kaeru(to return, go home, etc.) for example, but I have no idea what form "kaeri" is of this verb.
Usually, "verb + ri" has another verb at the end of sentence.
An instance, "Ie ni Kaeri, Syokuji wo suru". It means "I will go home and take a dinner". This sentence have two verbs "Kaeru:go" and "suru:take".

NANGI
 
Konnichiwa! Thanks Nangi. I'm sure I will enjoy this awesome forum!

So, are you saying that the -ri form is used kind of like how the -te form is used in lists?

(as in i could replace all the -te forms here with -ri forms and it would mean the same?)
僕の友と会って、家に帰って、しょくじをする。
 
eien23 said:
Konnichiwa! Thanks Nangi. I'm sure I will enjoy this awesome forum!

So, are you saying that the -ri form is used kind of like how the -te form is used in lists?

(as in i could replace all the -te forms here with -ri forms and it would mean the same?)
僕の友と会って、家に帰って、しょくじをする。
Not exactly....do you have a textbook for grammar, verb chart or kanji dictionary, by the way ? These questions are pretty easily answered with any standard reference materials, or of course a basic search of the JREF database :)
 
Not exactly....do you have a textbook for grammar, verb chart or kanji dictionary, by the way ? These questions are pretty easily answered with any standard reference materials, or of course a basic search of the JREF database :=)

I don't want to sound harsh or disrespectful, but I think if you aren't going to post an explanation or examples, maybe it would be better not to say anything.

To answer your question I DO have a grammer textbook and have searched countless verb charts (all of which didn't show the -i form because they didnt show bases, but the completed forms) and I do have a kanji dictionary. With those materials I do not understand the use of this form and that is why I posted. As for the JREF databse, I don't believe it gives a complete explanation, or at least I haven't found it.

The JREF grammer section says this:

Continuative form (連用形 ren'yōkei)
is used in a linking role. This is the most productive stem form, taking on a variety of endings and auxiliaries, and can even occur independently in a sense similar to the -te ending. This form is also used to negate adjectives.

All this tells me is that it has different endings, makes things negative, and is used like -te. I don't know what the different endings are, or how it negates things.

Also, my main question was how it is being used in the quotes I gave. The JREF grammer section said it can occur independently in a sense similar to the -te ending, but the -te ending by itself is used as a command, and I'm pretty sure the quotes I gave don't have commands in them.

Again I hope I didn't come off as angry 😅 , but I would appreciate a more detailed response.


[Edit - Elizabeth, I just read your response to my other thread and I just want to make it ultra clear that I am not angry, in fact I am extremely appreciative of you responses in that thread. :sorry: ]
 
Continuative form (連用形 ren'yōkei)
is used in a linking role. This is the most productive stem form, taking on a variety of endings and auxiliaries, and can even occur independently in a sense similar to the -te ending. This form is also used to negate adjectives.

eien23 said:
All this tells me is that it has different endings, makes things negative, and is used like -te. I don't know what the different endings are, or how it negates things.

It says that it's used to negate adjectives. This form is not used for negating verbs.

eien23 said:
So, are you saying that the -ri form is used kind of like how the -te form is used in lists?

Yes. Also, from what I've read it's more formal and it shows less causation between V1 and V2 (or V1 and Vn, I guess) than the -て form.
 
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