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As you might know, 窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ is an honorific/title of respect. It's same that you don't use "Mr." when addressing yourself.;-)
As you might know, 窶堋ｳ窶堙ｱ is an honorific/title of respect. It's same that you don't use "Mr." when addressing yourself.;-)Hm, so if I am understanding this correctly, you use the Kanji for formal uses and the mix of Hira + Kanji when not in formal occasions?
Right, it's like I said above like 日本人 being nihonjin because the word is nihonjin. 父 and 母 are ちち and はは; お父さん and お母さん are おとうさん and おかあさん. That's just what the words are.
Incidentally, I just realized that I was wrong about the kana spelling of おとうさん above. As you can see, it's とう, not とお.
Interesting!This is off-topic. But, I wonder what are the original meaning of "とう" and "かあ". Does anybody know?
Interesting!
御方様(おかたさま)/対屋(たいのや)/母(はは) → おかあさん
お母さん／おかあさん - 語源由来辞典
ち → ちち → てて/とと → ととさま/とっつぁん/とうさま → おとうさん
父／ちち - 語源由来辞典
お父さん/お母さん is spread by Meiji Government.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/お父さん
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/お母さん
They are relatively new words.
I agree. Native speakers would never memorize 窶藩 as "rai". It only becomes "rai" with "窶督｢窶藩? or "ﾂ渉ｫ窶藩?. By the way, native speakers always say something like "mirai no rai" ﾂ（ﾂ"窶督｢窶藩?"窶堙個"窶藩?"ﾂ）to refer to on-yomi, which suggests that in mental lexicon "rai" does not independently exist.
Recently I found this word in a text, ﾂ静倪?転ﾂ。
I could read the first Kanji, but, how to read the second one slipped completely my mind.
When I was going to use a dictionary, certain word came to my mind, ﾅ?ﾃｳ窶転ﾂ。
I knew that word and I could read it. So finally I could read ﾂ静倪?転.
The more words you know the more words you know how to read.
But you need a lot of ﾅ?ﾃｳ窶転ﾂ 窶堙仰！
Hi. I'm much like the OP. I'm a New Yorker who always wanted to learn but never had the time until college, only difference is I'm 18 lol. Unfortunatly, my college doesn't offer Japanese, so I've decided to study on my own.
Though I should practice more, I've been able to learn both katakana and hiranga, but don't know where to start when it comes to vocabular and Kanji.
Should I just learn the hiranga of words and what they mean first to build my vocabulary or should I just tackle the giant that is Kanji? Now that you guys have given the best explanation I could find about on and kun, maybe it wont be as overwhelming.
Can you guys suggest any material or aids in learning vocabluary/kanji. Free is always better, however you can't put a price on knowledge. At the moment I don't have any textbooks or reading materials that give any methods in learning. Just lists of Kanji and there On/kun/meaning.
Thanks in advance
thanks! btw i didnt mean anything illegal >.> i just meant if there were any good free resources, not pirating copyrighted material. books are the hardest thing to find pirated anyway lol. i expected to buy some books at some point, just didnt know which were best.
what i meant is like that katakana/hiragana website. thanks for that. I know both kana pretty well, but i didn't learn the stroke order, so sometimes my hiragana come out looking diformed.
Genki volume 1 is what....? vocabulary?
Thanks again. I'll head by Barne's and Nobles and see if they have those after my class today.