Thanks you. And in your opinion which Is the most interesting?I think they are both interesting, and have a high probability of being authentic. Both have names of recipients, and the giver (or representative) is identifiable, meaning there is a specific person or organization that presented the flags. So, these are the kinds of things that add plausibility to a flag, as opposed to a flag that is just covered in random names.
Thank youI can't comment to the authenticity of the flags, but the one on the right, with most of the text radiating out from the central sun is really interesting to me. If authentic, it comes from the Nagoya branch of Nakano Vinegar, the precursor to Mizkan.
Sorry, this is all in Japanese. They don't have the detailed history in English.
Edit: Updated the spelling of Mizkan
Ok, thank you againI think maybe the one on the right (same as Mikawa Ossan), for the same reason he mentioned. It's a known company/brand, and one could validate the name (or names) on it presumably by contacting the company and see if they are willing to search through their archives for the names on it. Other possible methods of validating exist. The important thing is that there is a verifiable company name on it, and the name of a person who is presumably associated with that company, so it has some plausible and verifiable connection with reality.
The one on the left... after looking at it a bit more I'm not as convinced as I was when I looked at it earlier. It too has some names on it that could be validated, but I don't like the looks of some of the abbreviations.
Note: I am not a native speaker of Japanese, and so my grasp of the language is less firm than a native speaker's grasp.
Oh ok , thanks. But having to choose one Is the second still the most interesting?The one on the left might be OK. The red stamp indicates it's from a shrine in Osaka, "Kobore Inari Jinja", which matches with the writing associated with the name on the far left of the flag.
Thank you. One last question, if i'm not wrong in the part in which Is written the giver, the first part of the phrase Is "Nakano shop". So this Nakano shop is the the precursor of Mizkan, and not a differenti society, right?Yes, I would say the one on the right is more interesting - but its all subjective. I like it because of the verifiable company name, the slogan at the top (必勝 - certain victory), and I like how the names radiate out from the red disc.
Perfect, thank you as always.Yes, it is the old (original) name of the Mizkan group. The founder's surname was Nakano, using a particular kanji. The name on your flag uses this same old, peculiar kanji, so, while not 100% certain, it does indeed look like the name of the company on your flag is the old name for the Mizkan group.
As far as I know the name "Nakano Vinegar" is not in use anymore. Everything has been rolled up into the "Mizkan" corporate brand name.
Ok, thank you very much. Is the other slogan (the one written above the donor) the usual "Good luck in battle?". And how does the soldier's name translate?:You know, I would try to do some more research, maybe try to contact the company.埜
Nakano is normally written as 中野, but this family uses a variant and writes it as 中埜. (Same meaning and pronunciation, just a different kanji variant for no.
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The 5 characters arranged vertically on the right are 祈武運長久 (Pray for everlasting luck in battle)
The 5 characters arranged vertically on the left are the recipient's name 清水修平君 (SHIMIZU Shuhei-kun)
"kun" is an honorific used for someone you are familiar with. A work colleague, or friend, or younger family member.
Perfect, thank youAs for the left flag, there are two location names 北河堀町 Kita-kawahori town and 天王寺町 Tennōj town on it, as Majestic-san mentioned for the first one.