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Growing old in a country you no longer recognize.

Those of us who were part of the Baby Boom generation, now in our 60s and 70s, no longer recognize the nation in which we grew up. We are strangers in a land that gets stranger by the day.
We believed in the American dream. We worked hard, paid our taxes and obeyed the law —even laws we thought were idiotic.
We married and had children. Today's young adults cohabit and have pets.
We struggled to raise families. Some of us went to war, like our fathers and grandfathers before us. We thought that when we grew old, there would be more for us – more than alienation.
Most of us don't recognize Biden's America. Patriotism has become passe. Our military is led by men who are social workers and politically correct hacks.

They can't fight, but they're great at getting soldiers to use preferred pronouns and combating imaginary racism in the ranks.
Giant corporations have replaced individual enterprise, which – in many cases – has been taxed and regulated out of existence. Government bureaucrats and corporate executives are like the pigs and men at the end of Orwell's "Animal Farm."
We look in vain for a Ronald Reagan, a Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt. Instead, we find corrupt clowns like wizened Nancy Pelosi, Commissar Ocasio-Cortez (the Cuban pinup girl selling socialist snake oil) and our president – a cranky septuagenarian slipping noisily into senility.
If we're white, we're told that we are responsible for every problem that plagues people of color. That's right, we're to blame for the roughly 70% of black children born out of wedlock (we forced their parents to behave irresponsibly), just as cops are to blame for the deaths of thugs who threaten their lives.

Savages who burn down cities are hailed as heroes and celebrated as warriors for social justice. But misguided middle-class citizens, among them veterans, who trespassed in the Capitol 14 months ago are branded traitors and insurgents.
Mayors take down statues of Washington and Columbus and commission murals of George Floyd.
If you're white, you're also responsible for slavery, segregation, the Wounded Knee massacre and Japanese Americans interned during World War II. Racism is in our blood, they tell us. Remember, throughout the course of human history, racism has never existed anywhere but here.
By "despoiling the earth," we're also responsible for climate change. If we end up paying $7-a-gallon for gas – well, it's our own damned fault.
Forget racial minorities. Now, we're told that there are "sexual minorities" -- that people who used to be considered odd are in fact oppressed. And that a man who thinks he's a woman in fact is a woman – and is entitled to use the ladies' room with our granddaughters. And if we refuse to accept this bizarre fantasy, we are hateful.
What passes for entertainment is sickening – all blood and gore, sadistic killers, aliens who pop out of people's stomachs and monsters in various guises. We search in vain for contemporary movies with characters we can admire or at least care about. So we retreat to cinema of the 40s and 50s on TCM.

On top of living in a country that's unrecognizable, we can't even afford to live here anymore. You need a second mortgage to buy a steak. A hamburger and fries at McDonald's is a gourmet feast.

Filling up the tank is agonizing. Paying confiscatory taxes marks us as serfs. Inflation is at a 40-year high, and politicians tell us it's because government isn't spending enough.

Our parents could retire at 65, in the mortgage-free home they bought in their 30s. We're still working at 75. Retirement is a distant dream. We're working to provide benefits for illegal aliens, addicts and loons who camp and defecate on the streets.
Many of us are the grandchildren of immigrants, a fact of which we are proud. Our people helped to build this country. But we witness with unalloyed horror the tide flowing across our southern border unimpeded. The middle class view them as criminals, gang members and mooches. The Democratic party sees them as voters. We can't defend our own borders, but are expected to defend those of distant lands.

This used to be an English-speaking country. Now it's ballots in 20 languages, court interpreters and press one for Serbo-Croatian.
Our feeble president (who's been sucking on the federal teat for half-a-century) is unable to perform his Constitutional duties, but has successfully waged war on domestic energy production. We went from energy independence to beggars with a gas can in a matter of months. The corpse that walks says climate change is the biggest threat our national security – along with transphobia.

Washington sputters about Putin's war on Ukraine, but imports 670,000 barrels of Russian oil a day. While he lets pipelines rust and our oil, coal and natural gas remain in the ground, Biden pleads with the Saudis to pump more – and is thinking about imports from the Marxists of Venezuela and the jihadists of Iran, both Russian allies. Apparently, oil from anywhere outside the U.S. doesn't pollute.

Officeholders for life treat us like mentally-challenged children. They snicker at those who pay their exorbitant salaries.
So we limp along into old age, too proud to go on the dole and too stubborn to just give up.
Besides, surrender now would be a betrayal of the America that once was.
 
Did you copy this from somewhere? It's complete B.S. You don't even live in the U.S.

I agree with virtually none of this. I stopped reading seriously as soon as I read "Most of us don't recognize Biden's America."
Really? But you recognize Trump's America?? Where millions of people follow a constant liar who goads people into believing his lies to the point of attacking Democracy?
 
Pretty obvious that liberals and conservatives see things very differently. I find little difference in who's steering the ship , but care much more about the map they are following. It seems the US always fares much better when following the Republican platform.

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I have no horse in this race and don't wish to stir any partisan conflict, but this interview left me dumbstruck:

When asked about Ukraine, and what he thought would unfold, Donald Trump answered, "Well, and I said this a long time ago, if this happens, we are playing right into their hands. Green energy. The windmills don't work. They're too expensive. They kill all the birds. They ruin your landscapes, and yet the environmentalists love the windmills. And I've been preaching this for years. The windmills ― and I had them way down ― but the windmills are the most expensive energy you can have. And they don't work."



 
Pretty obvious that liberals and conservatives see things very differently. I find little difference in who's steering the ship , but care much more about the map they are following. It seems the US always fares much better when following the Republican platform.
Do you have any actual evidence backing this statement? What is the criteria you're using to determine how the U.S. is faring?
 
Growing old in a country you no longer recognize.

Those of us who were part of the Baby Boom generation, now in our 60s and 70s, no longer recognize the nation in which we grew up. We are strangers in a land that gets stranger by the day.
We believed in the American dream. We worked hard, paid our taxes and obeyed the law —even laws we thought were idiotic.
We married and had children. Today's young adults cohabit and have pets.
We struggled to raise families. Some of us went to war, like our fathers and grandfathers before us. We thought that when we grew old, there would be more for us – more than alienation.
Most of us don't recognize Biden's America. Patriotism has become passe. Our military is led by men who are social workers and politically correct hacks.

They can't fight, but they're great at getting soldiers to use preferred pronouns and combating imaginary racism in the ranks.
Giant corporations have replaced individual enterprise, which – in many cases – has been taxed and regulated out of existence. Government bureaucrats and corporate executives are like the pigs and men at the end of Orwell's "Animal Farm."
We look in vain for a Ronald Reagan, a Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt. Instead, we find corrupt clowns like wizened Nancy Pelosi, Commissar Ocasio-Cortez (the Cuban pinup girl selling socialist snake oil) and our president – a cranky septuagenarian slipping noisily into senility.
If we're white, we're told that we are responsible for every problem that plagues people of color. That's right, we're to blame for the roughly 70% of black children born out of wedlock (we forced their parents to behave irresponsibly), just as cops are to blame for the deaths of thugs who threaten their lives.

Savages who burn down cities are hailed as heroes and celebrated as warriors for social justice. But misguided middle-class citizens, among them veterans, who trespassed in the Capitol 14 months ago are branded traitors and insurgents.
Mayors take down statues of Washington and Columbus and commission murals of George Floyd.
If you're white, you're also responsible for slavery, segregation, the Wounded Knee massacre and Japanese Americans interned during World War II. Racism is in our blood, they tell us. Remember, throughout the course of human history, racism has never existed anywhere but here.
By "despoiling the earth," we're also responsible for climate change. If we end up paying $7-a-gallon for gas – well, it's our own damned fault.
Forget racial minorities. Now, we're told that there are "sexual minorities" -- that people who used to be considered odd are in fact oppressed. And that a man who thinks he's a woman in fact is a woman – and is entitled to use the ladies' room with our granddaughters. And if we refuse to accept this bizarre fantasy, we are hateful.
What passes for entertainment is sickening – all blood and gore, sadistic killers, aliens who pop out of people's stomachs and monsters in various guises. We search in vain for contemporary movies with characters we can admire or at least care about. So we retreat to cinema of the 40s and 50s on TCM.

On top of living in a country that's unrecognizable, we can't even afford to live here anymore. You need a second mortgage to buy a steak. A hamburger and fries at McDonald's is a gourmet feast.

Filling up the tank is agonizing. Paying confiscatory taxes marks us as serfs. Inflation is at a 40-year high, and politicians tell us it's because government isn't spending enough.

Our parents could retire at 65, in the mortgage-free home they bought in their 30s. We're still working at 75. Retirement is a distant dream. We're working to provide benefits for illegal aliens, addicts and loons who camp and defecate on the streets.
Many of us are the grandchildren of immigrants, a fact of which we are proud. Our people helped to build this country. But we witness with unalloyed horror the tide flowing across our southern border unimpeded. The middle class view them as criminals, gang members and mooches. The Democratic party sees them as voters. We can't defend our own borders, but are expected to defend those of distant lands.

This used to be an English-speaking country. Now it's ballots in 20 languages, court interpreters and press one for Serbo-Croatian.
Our feeble president (who's been sucking on the federal teat for half-a-century) is unable to perform his Constitutional duties, but has successfully waged war on domestic energy production. We went from energy independence to beggars with a gas can in a matter of months. The corpse that walks says climate change is the biggest threat our national security – along with transphobia.

Washington sputters about Putin's war on Ukraine, but imports 670,000 barrels of Russian oil a day. While he lets pipelines rust and our oil, coal and natural gas remain in the ground, Biden pleads with the Saudis to pump more – and is thinking about imports from the Marxists of Venezuela and the jihadists of Iran, both Russian allies. Apparently, oil from anywhere outside the U.S. doesn't pollute.

Officeholders for life treat us like mentally-challenged children. They snicker at those who pay their exorbitant salaries.
So we limp along into old age, too proud to go on the dole and too stubborn to just give up.
Besides, surrender now would be a betrayal of the America that once was.
 
Growing old in a country you no longer recognize.

Those of us who were part of the Baby Boom generation, now in our 60s and 70s, no longer recognize the nation in which we grew up. We are strangers in a land that gets stranger by the day.
We believed in the American dream. We worked hard, paid our taxes and obeyed the law —even laws we thought were idiotic.
We married and had children. Today's young adults cohabit and have pets.
We struggled to raise families. Some of us went to war, like our fathers and grandfathers before us. We thought that when we grew old, there would be more for us – more than alienation.
Most of us don't recognize Biden's America. Patriotism has become passe. Our military is led by men who are social workers and politically correct hacks.

They can't fight, but they're great at getting soldiers to use preferred pronouns and combating imaginary racism in the ranks.
Giant corporations have replaced individual enterprise, which – in many cases – has been taxed and regulated out of existence. Government bureaucrats and corporate executives are like the pigs and men at the end of Orwell's "Animal Farm."
We look in vain for a Ronald Reagan, a Lincoln or Teddy Roosevelt. Instead, we find corrupt clowns like wizened Nancy Pelosi, Commissar Ocasio-Cortez (the Cuban pinup girl selling socialist snake oil) and our president – a cranky septuagenarian slipping noisily into senility.
If we're white, we're told that we are responsible for every problem that plagues people of color. That's right, we're to blame for the roughly 70% of black children born out of wedlock (we forced their parents to behave irresponsibly), just as cops are to blame for the deaths of thugs who threaten their lives.

Savages who burn down cities are hailed as heroes and celebrated as warriors for social justice. But misguided middle-class citizens, among them veterans, who trespassed in the Capitol 14 months ago are branded traitors and insurgents.
Mayors take down statues of Washington and Columbus and commission murals of George Floyd.
If you're white, you're also responsible for slavery, segregation, the Wounded Knee massacre and Japanese Americans interned during World War II. Racism is in our blood, they tell us. Remember, throughout the course of human history, racism has never existed anywhere but here.
By "despoiling the earth," we're also responsible for climate change. If we end up paying $7-a-gallon for gas – well, it's our own damned fault.
Forget racial minorities. Now, we're told that there are "sexual minorities" -- that people who used to be considered odd are in fact oppressed. And that a man who thinks he's a woman in fact is a woman – and is entitled to use the ladies' room with our granddaughters. And if we refuse to accept this bizarre fantasy, we are hateful.
What passes for entertainment is sickening – all blood and gore, sadistic killers, aliens who pop out of people's stomachs and monsters in various guises. We search in vain for contemporary movies with characters we can admire or at least care about. So we retreat to cinema of the 40s and 50s on TCM.

On top of living in a country that's unrecognizable, we can't even afford to live here anymore. You need a second mortgage to buy a steak. A hamburger and fries at McDonald's is a gourmet feast.

Filling up the tank is agonizing. Paying confiscatory taxes marks us as serfs. Inflation is at a 40-year high, and politicians tell us it's because government isn't spending enough.

Our parents could retire at 65, in the mortgage-free home they bought in their 30s. We're still working at 75. Retirement is a distant dream. We're working to provide benefits for illegal aliens, addicts and loons who camp and defecate on the streets.
Many of us are the grandchildren of immigrants, a fact of which we are proud. Our people helped to build this country. But we witness with unalloyed horror the tide flowing across our southern border unimpeded. The middle class view them as criminals, gang members and mooches. The Democratic party sees them as voters. We can't defend our own borders, but are expected to defend those of distant lands.

This used to be an English-speaking country. Now it's ballots in 20 languages, court interpreters and press one for Serbo-Croatian.
Our feeble president (who's been sucking on the federal teat for half-a-century) is unable to perform his Constitutional duties, but has successfully waged war on domestic energy production. We went from energy independence to beggars with a gas can in a matter of months. The corpse that walks says climate change is the biggest threat our national security – along with transphobia.

Washington sputters about Putin's war on Ukraine, but imports 670,000 barrels of Russian oil a day. While he lets pipelines rust and our oil, coal and natural gas remain in the ground, Biden pleads with the Saudis to pump more – and is thinking about imports from the Marxists of Venezuela and the jihadists of Iran, both Russian allies. Apparently, oil from anywhere outside the U.S. doesn't pollute.

Officeholders for life treat us like mentally-challenged children. They snicker at those who pay their exorbitant salaries.
So we limp along into old age, too proud to go on the dole and too stubborn to just give up.
Besides, surrender now would be a betrayal of the America that once was.
Agree wholeheartedly with you . At 79 I have lived a decent life but yes, it is becoming more and more difficult to "stomach" the left's determination to turn the USofA into a 3rd world country. I believe I grew up in the best of times (40-50's). IMO the hippy movement of the 60's started this "don't give a sh.t revolution " and the internet has added much to the chaos. Too much to talk about and no sense attempting to persuade young folks as they never lived in my time and cannot understand something they never experienced. Today's world is so impersonal and hateful and "woke" turning the time of my youth upside down and inside out. Sometimes I wish the socialists and progressives would get what they truly wish for - A Xi Jinping or Putin. If they are crying now they would be screaming for their "rights" if either of those 2 comrades were to become their leaders.
 
I believe I grew up in the best of times (40-50's). IMO the hippy movement of the 60's started this "don't give a sh.t revolution " and the internet has added much to the chaos. Too much to talk about and no sense attempting to persuade young folks as they never lived in my time and cannot understand something they never experienced. Today's world is so impersonal and hateful and "woke" turning the time of my youth upside down and inside out.
Yes, those were truly the best days when we could freely -- and legally -- prevent the negro race from buying houses in our neighborhoods using racial covenants. Then came all those hippies talking about civil rights and propagating that progressive, liberal nonsense about the Constitution providing equal justice under the law to -- can you imagine? -- colored people! At least now conservatives are sponsoring legislation to criminalize the teaching of such "divisive" history. If only we could go back to those good old days of the 1950s.

ometimes I wish the socialists and progressives would get what they truly wish for - A Xi Jinping or Putin. If they are crying now they would be screaming for their "rights" if eith
Are you even aware of what is going on these days? It's Trump and his sycophants who were cozying up to Putin and Russia. From denying the Russian led attack on US elections to supporting authoritarianism in the form of Putin and attempting to overthrow Democracy in the U.S. Not to mention the lack of support for Ukraine. Not just "lack" -- Paul Manafort, Trump's own campaign chair went to prison for unregistered lobbying for the previous corrupt government of Ukraine, fraud, money laundering, etc.

 
Yes, those were truly the best days when we could freely -- and legally -- prevent the negro race from buying houses in our neighborhoods using racial covenants. Then came all those hippies talking about civil rights and propagating that progressive, liberal nonsense about the Constitution providing equal justice under the law to -- can you imagine? -- colored people! At least now conservatives are sponsoring legislation to criminalize the teaching of such "divisive" history. If only we could go back to those good old days of the 1950s.


Are you even aware of what is going on these days? It's Trump and his sycophants who were cozying up to Putin and Russia. From denying the Russian led attack on US elections to supporting authoritarianism in the form of Putin and attempting to overthrow Democracy in the U.S. Not to mention the lack of support for Ukraine. Not just "lack" -- Paul Manafort, Trump's own campaign chair went to prison for unregistered lobbying for the previous corrupt government of Ukraine, fraud, money laundering, etc.


and Hillary was screwed out of being the 1st female Prez and her Husband got the 1st "known" BJ in the oval office. Joe should send young Hunter to the Ukraine as he is the wise ol expert on that country. Better yet, make Hunter a General and those Ukrainians will welcome him with open arms !!! You and Nancy, AOC and Chucky go hug all those illegals coming into this country - worship the drug addict George Floyds of this world , destroy cities as you protest for "green" , teach your kids that that penis doesn't really mean you're a male or that that vagina shouldn't limit you to being a female. and so on and so on. It's a whole different world and if it weren't so sad I'd laugh it off. Trump is not my favorite person but I would vote for him over any socialist/progressive alternative. Nothing wrong with MAGA and even if we are not the greatest or best country we should strive to be just that - not a 3rd world has been. How many years did you serve your country ? I'm no hero but did serve 8 yrs in the USAF and proud to be a veteran and then (60's) as now the Russian and Chinese "governments" are our true enemies. sometimes I wonder why our fathers fought and won WW2 - it was a different time for sure. But It's all Trump's fault right ? and there again - growing up in the 40-50's we took responsible for our failures or successes - it was never someone else's fault - no one to blame but yourself !
 
Imagine being the last generation to fare better than their parents, witness the poorly-spackled walls of late-stage capitalism begin to crumble and collapse, and then blame it on culture war nonsense like "wokeism."

Imagine, after four decades of measurable, demonstrable failures of Reaganomics, pining for the next ol' Gipper to come along and save the day from people who support affordable healthcare and living wages, the very things that could alleviate the suffering you moan about.

Imagine being the stock of immigrants who were likely vilified as "criminals, gang members and mooches" in their own day, only to turn around and shut the door behind them as quickly as possible.

Imagine recoiling at the very thought of young people learning about history, and letting yourself get ginned up over misrepresented legal theories only discussed at the post-graduate level.

Imagine boasting about serving your country's military and then voting for the party that consistently denies benefits and treatment to veterans.

Imagine drawing false equivalence between protests and riots, and calling a literal lynch mob "misguided." By whom, I wonder.

Imagine thinking, in the midst of record profits for oil companies, that the answer to high gas prices are pipelines specifically designed to expedite the export of oil.

Imagine waxing nostalgic about the good old days while flaunting your own obscenely rose-colored glasses.

Imagine thinking your struggle is the only valid one.

Imagine doing all this, with no sense of irony or empathy.

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Seriously bad takes all around, truly must've been written by a boomer, and clearly not @musicisgood. This isn't your Facebook wall, at least properly attribute your chain-letter drivel before you vomit it on this forum. You can consider this a warning.
 
To show that my generation isn't afraid of a little work (and a testament to Brandolini's Law), I'll do it for you.

Seems like the original text was penned by Don Feder and posted to Frontpagemag.com last week: No Country for Old Men - Frontpagemag

Frontpagemag isn't exactly a stellar source for information, as if anyone would be surprised by this, given the purely editorial nature of this diatribe: Frontpage Magazine

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It's already being passed around social media by self-proclaimed conservatives and Tea Party PACs. I imagine it must really resound with those who think everything wrong with the world falls at the feet at those who came after them, or that change is scary and they just can't keep up. Clearly, they were the last ones to fight for what's right, and the only way to recover greatness is to return things to the way they were when they last felt comfortable.

Don Feder himself has been a lifelong conservative and prolific writer expounding on all forms of demagoguery and self-imposed victimhood: Don Feder - Wikipedia

You can hear his hot takes from his appearances on CSPAN: https://www.c-span.org/person/?24860/DonaldFeder

Sounds like he's still salty that a group of radical youths disrupted his 2009 attempt to tell students at UMass that hate crimes were not a thing. Sounds like a real cool dude. Protesters shut down Republican Club's Don Feder speech at UMass
 
I had some Japanese American family interned and had all their property taken. Buddha heads they were called. Afraid to use any Japanese language even now around anyone who does not look Japanese. Yea 40s and 50s were real great for people born in America who were not white.
 
and Hillary was screwed out of being the 1st female Prez and her Husband got the 1st "known" BJ in the oval office.
Do you agree the Russians interfered with the 2016 election? The evidence is uncontested. The only part that is contested is whether or not there was collusion or not. But that's really not the point. We were attacked and Trump's administration did nothing about it. Certainly Obama could have/should have done more. No question.

Do you feel that getting a BJ in the oval office and lying about it is an impeachable offense? Who chose to go after him for that?

And then all the Benghazi this, personal email servers that. NONE of that compares to what Trump did. Yet not a peep out of the GOP.
Joe should send young Hunter to the Ukraine as he is the wise ol expert on that country. Better yet, make Hunter a General and those Ukrainians will welcome him with open arms !!!
Hunter was a bit player in nothing. So he got some fees for sitting on a board doing nothing. So what? How is that different from virtually every other well-connected family in America? Compare Hunter to Manafort who went to prison for unlawfully lobbying for a puppet regime. The only thing that Trump added to the GOP platform in 2016 was watering down support for Ukraine and downplaying the danger from Russia.

You and Nancy, AOC and Chucky go hug all those illegals coming into this country
Here's a wild and crazy -- progressive -- thought. How about making a process for legal immigration? You may have noticed, but this country doesn't have enough workers to wipe the butts -- or serve fast food -- to those of your generation aka the Boomers. If the GOP was truly serious about "illegal immigration" they would assess large civil and criminal penalties to the Tysons (factory chicken farming), Smithfield's (factory pork processing) and the large agricultural concerns. The fact is, their whole business model depends on exploiting these people. If there were no jobs for them they wouldn't come. Yet it's more palatable to you to vilify those coming into the country illegally drawn to the siren call of corporate interests?

worship the drug addict George Floyds of this world , destroy cities as you protest for "green" ,
The subtext here is that you have no problems with a police officer murdering somebody as long as they are a "drug addict" or a person of color?
You do realize none of these riots would have happened if only everybody were treated equally under the law as our Constitution demands.

teach your kids that that penis doesn't really mean you're a male or that that vagina shouldn't limit you to being a female. and so on and so on.
I'll cut you some slack as you may be old and led a sheltered life but even a little exposure to porn from the 70s would inform you that sexuality is not binary even if you focus only on the physical aspect of it. Not everybody has a just an XX or XY chromosome set. Some people are born with different genitalia and their gender is indeterminate (often decided for them at birth with a scalpel).

Trump is not my favorite person but I would vote for him over any socialist/progressive alternative.
What are the progressive initiatives you're afraid of? Do you like our system where one major medical condition can make you go bankrupt? Where people have to beg for money on gofundme because they didn't have the foresight to get a professional job with good insurance?
Do you wish to go back to the 50s where you can put those racially restrictive covenants into your house deed?

Nothing wrong with MAGA and even if we are not the greatest or best country we should strive to be just that - not a 3rd world has been.
MAGA is purely a meaningless slogan. Specifically how do you propose making America Great Again?
Do you think building a wall would have done the trick? Do you think criminalizing women's choice regarding what they can do with their bodies will do it?

How many years did you serve your country ? I'm no hero but did serve 8 yrs in the USAF and proud to be a veteran and then (60's) as now the Russian and Chinese "governments" are our true enemies. sometimes I wonder why our fathers fought and won WW2 - it was a different time for sure.
I didn't serve in the military but I'm not going to apologize for that.

But It's all Trump's fault right ? and there again - growing up in the 40-50's we took responsible for our failures or successes - it was never someone else's fault - no one to blame but yourself !
I didn't say it's Trump's fault. He's just a malignant symptom of something that goes far beyond him. Hopefully President Harris can right the ship. :LOL:
 
I had some Japanese American family interned and had all their property taken. Buddha heads they were called. Afraid to use any Japanese language even now around anyone who does not look Japanese. Yea 40s and 50s were real great for people born in America who were not white.
Yes, my town used to have a massive Japanese-American population and its own Japantown until the internment and wealth/land-grab. The living memory is dying with the older generation, but the drive to integrate was so strong that their kids (around my parents' age) and younger have completely lost touch with their parents' language and culture.
 
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