News Gadouya ramen chain charging foreigners higher prices

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A Chinese tourist recently accused the Iekei ramen restaurant chain Gadouya of charging foreign tourists who selected the English, Chinese, or Korean-language menu more than Japanese guests.



In return, Gadouya announced it was banning all Chinese customers because they cause "trouble."

The owner of the ramen shop that charges nearly double the price for ramen ordered from its foreign-language menu went on Japanese TV and defended the practice, claiming that foreigners get special ramen that is worth the cost. Google reviews dispute this.

 
That video was fascinating and, apart from one young lady, less anti-Chinese than expected. Osakans are generally very outspoken and blunt.

We went to Kamakura today, where the number of Chinese travellers has indeed significantly dropped compared to our previous visit in November, just before PM Takaichi made her infamous remarks in the Diet. Perhaps it's just the season, who knows. 🤷‍♂️
 
That video was fascinating and, apart from one young lady, less anti-Chinese than expected. Osakans are generally very outspoken and blunt.
If sort of feels less as 'Chinese tourist hate' and more 'too-many-annoying-tourists-who-just-happen-to-be-Chinese-hate'? It's become a thing in many European cities, too, in particular Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese tourist 'hotspots'. There are so many almost tourists all year around that the locals are fed up with them, even the ones who work in the tourism sector. And it's not just the annoying ones, but they make it a billion times worse. I've had my share of run-ins with thoughtless, disrespectful, and downright rude tourists, so I get where this is coming from, but at the same time most of us are too polite or conflict-averse to point out their lack of awareness to them when we see it, so how do we expect them to learn?
 
What nationality do the worst offenders seem to be?

I once attended a Chinese PhD candidate's presentation about work psychology and call centres in particular. He was explaining some of the cultural differences and noted that Westerners smiling or appearing to smile, for no reason was deemed as being weird and unfathomable to Chinese people which amused us polite British people who, smile at you, but actually hate your guts. My local post office has been taken over by a very nice Chinese couple, but they never smile and are very 'matter-of-fact'. Maybe all non-Chinese people should have lessons in Chinese culturally acceptable behaviour!
 
Osaka is not particularly famous for ramen, and the ramen shop in question looks like a profit-driven business targeting Chinese tourists, judging from its exterior design, which heavily uses red and yellow colors and an excessive amount of Chinese characters.

In addition, even the ramen options intended for Japanese customers are priced at around 1,000 yen, which many Japanese people would consider too expensive and therefore avoid. Taste-conscious Osaka locals, in particular, are unlikely to patronize such a restaurant.

Osaka is sometimes called a "ramen desert," but this does not mean that Osaka has bad ramen. Rather, it reflects historical and cultural reasons why ramen did not become the dominant food culture there.

First, Osaka has a highly developed traditional broth culture. The city is famous for its light, refined dashi made from kelp and bonito flakes, which forms the foundation of dishes like udon and Japanese cuisine in general. Compared to this delicate flavor profile, ramen—often based on pork bones, chicken, soy sauce, and oil—was sometimes considered too heavy or overpowering for local tastes.

Second, ramen had strong competition from other popular foods. In Osaka, everyday meals traditionally centered on udon and soba, while casual eating focused on takoyaki, okonomiyaki, and kushikatsu. These foods already filled the role that ramen played in other cities, leaving less cultural space for ramen to develop as a staple.

Third, Osaka lacked a strong postwar street-stall (yatai) ramen culture. In cities like Tokyo, Hakata, and Sapporo, ramen spread through street stalls after World War II, helping to establish local styles and famous shops. In Osaka, stricter regulations and different dining habits limited this kind of growth.

Another factor is that Osaka consumers are known for being very price- and quality-conscious. Expensive ramen is harder to justify, making it difficult for new or experimental ramen shops to survive long enough to become institutions.

Today, however, this reputation is outdated. Modern Osaka is home to many highly regarded and innovative ramen shops, known especially for their unique and bold styles rather than mainstream trends.

In short, Osaka was called a "ramen desert" not because ramen was poor in quality, but because the city's food culture was already rich, competitive, and deeply rooted in other traditions.
 
I wonder if smiling or laughing "inappropriately" happens less in China.

Yes it does 😑 The last time a mainland Chinese person laughed was just before someone suggested there might be a 'cultural revolution' in 1966.

You have to remember psychological 'science' is the study of Western people, not Eastern people. My friend is a Burmese psychiatrist who says he'd have to radically modify his diagnostic process if he worked outside the UK.
 
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