Declared dead to a credit card company.

Revenant

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Quickly here, it's very true that I've spent more than I should've on my credit card before, but the last credit card bill wasn't bad at all, still made my wife angry.

Before she told me the only way she could cancel my credit card was to declare me dead, and she said she might do that if the credit card bills were too big, but that it meant I could never get another credit card again (she told me that perhaps two or three weeks ago).

So the last bill came in on Saturday, and she was quite angry with that, and home was guaranteed to be chilly all weekend. I decided to get out to the only gaijin bar here just for a brighter atmosphere.

Anyways, came home from the bar, and because I'm not a guy that likes to tell people 'no', some chick hitting on every guy on the bar asked for my phone number, and I only thought I can't have you calling me, so I thought I'd just give her my email and hope she forgot about me later, so I show her my email address (she's holding my phone now), and she sees it's an iPhone I have and thus we both belong to Softbank (makes exchanging numbers for texts easier I guess if we both belong to the same carrier), so she enters in her number and calls herself, right, so now her number is in my history of calls. She ends up going home with some Nigerian guy.

I get home, and my wife gets pretty upset that I have some girl's number in there (can't remember telling her that it was a chick's number), and by now I know it's better to just sarcastically agree with whatever she says when she's this angry just to let her know we're not going to get anywhere at the moment, otherwise we'd get into a lot of other unreasonable stuff like 'a sincere husband would've just told her off' and 'what was I doing to encourage her'.

While I'm sleeping she calls the credit card company and tells them I'm dead, and my son later asks her why she told someone on the phone I was dead. She tells him it's cause I spend too much money on my credit card, partly true, but hardly true of the last credit card bill.

Anyways, thinking it over, she wouldn't have declared me dead had I not come home with some chick's number in my calling history, she was just angry and decided to take some drastic action against me.

So the real question is, if anyone knows, is this true that she can do this to me, and if so is there some way I can reverse that?

I mean I have nothing I want to buy at the moment to test whether my credit card has actually been cancelled.
 
Sounds like you asked for it with your boorish behaviour. I'd imagine you'd be able to reverse it (come back from the dead), but it will probably take some work.

On the other side, I wonder if your wife may have violated some laws in providing the credit card company with false information and could be prosecuted.
 
(post deleted as the info on cancelling credit cards does not seem to be what OP is after.)
 
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I would have just told the girl that I'm married in a polite manner and moved off. I don't think she could have been mad at you as you told the truth about your not being available. But I wasn't there so I maybe missing parts of the situation.
 
To all detractors, the very first Q is, is it even ok to go to a Gaijin bar. ArmandV and Petaris?
 
To all detractors, the very first Q is, is it even ok to go to a Gaijin bar. ArmandV and Petaris?

Well I don't drink so I probably wouldn't have been there in the first place but thats just me. I can't see why it wouldn't be ok to go as long as you had the time to do so and you weren't neglecting other responsibilities to do so. I have never been to a Gaijin bar, or any bar in Japan. Do Gaijin bars have a bad reputation or something?

Also I'm not judging you or anything. As I stated I wasn't there so I don't know the whole situation. It may not have been possible for you to avoid her or get her to move on after telling her you're married. I have had experience with some people who will just not take the hint that I am not interested or available even after pointing out that I am married and not interested. (Admittedly that doesn't happen very often at all to me.)
 
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Well personally, I know some married chicks have actual intent even if they and you are married, others seem just to be desperately looking for friendship and not know they're giving off vibes to others of 'one night stand'.

Really, I was trying to balance the benefit of the doubt by just giving her my email while trying not to upset the wife, even though the wife and I don't have a great relationship by any means.

Gaijin bars are where gaijin congregate and Japanese with whatever intent in regards to gaijin come as well. Some just want gaijin friend, others want a bit of romance, and it's no easy yo tell at times.
 
The credit card sounds like the least of your problems.
 
To all detractors, the very first Q is, is it even ok to go to a Gaijin bar. ArmandV and Petaris?

Never been to a gaijin bar, so I couldn't tell you.

Oh come on! Seriously what action would constitute negating someone's possibility of ever getting a credit card again?

None (maybe except bad credit rating), but pissed-off women do have a tendency to be spiteful. If I were you, I'd just go to the credit card company to prove that you aren't dead.

As Mr. Cash stated, the card is the least of your problems.
 
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You could speak from the heart and say something like, "I'm sorry for everything I've done up until now, I love you and want to be with you forever, I promise to be good to you from now on. Please give me a chance to start fresh from this moment forward." :12:

Unfortunately, probably, while saying the above, the ego will try to sabotage this heart-felt talk, by internally complaining, "But it's not all MY fault, SHE has done bad things too! SHE should apologize to me! Why should I be the one swallowing my pride and getting down on MY knees and begging her to give me a chance to start fresh?"

Fortunately, probably, the higher-self will come down and whisper, "Look, you love your son very much, and you know that as a male in Japan (especially a non-Japanese male in Japan) divorce means there would be a 99 percent chance that you would NEVER be allowed to see your son again. If you want to stay with your son, you need to stay with your wife, which means you need to stop this old-downward-spiral immediately and start building a fresh foundation for a new-Upward-spiral. This requires letting go of all the negative past events, and simply starting fresh from zero. The trust bank needs some deposits now: no more withdrawals for the next 7 years. It's going to be hard, but just remember: you can do it, you can stay with your wife no matter what, because you love your son." :12:
 
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Steve, have you been reading Stephen R. Covey by any chance?
 
Hi Glenn :) Well, not recently, but back in '94 a professor at Sophia named Father Amen (seriously, that was his name) had all of his students read Carlos Casteneda (Journey to Ixtlan), M. Scott Peck M.D. (The Road Less Traveled), and yes, Stephen R. Covey (The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People). The useful ideas from those books are still with me.

BTW, off-topic tangent: Hey Pachipro, did you too have the pleasure of enjoying that "Life 101" class with Professor Amen? And the "Thinking-Processes 101" comparative-culture class with Professor Gardner as well? :-)

Back to the OP topic, Revenant, brother, to reverse the downward-spiral one needs to start the upward-spiral, right? The WAY you start the upward-spiral is totally up to you. I wish you the best. Love & Gratitude. :)
 
Ah, I've read The Road Less Traveled and its sequel, and have heard a bit of The 7 Habits via a Chinese podcast (part of the listening comprehension category), so I'm a bit familiar with the concepts in it, at least. I hope the useful ideas are still with me. :-) OK, no more off-topic from me. *bows out*
 
Don't feed the trolls, right. First time I've been labeled a troll on any forum I've been to.

Second, I've read Covey's stuff, and I think it all sounds great, and I'd love to do that were there any hope of honesty on her part, but I know there is not.

Somehow one of the things that is important to me is just a laughing matter to them (her and her family), and they'll never change that.

Third, quite correct Mike, the credit card might be the least of my worries, and I might as some suggest be a seriously screwed up guy, but I don't think asking for honesty in issues I find important to me is screwed up at all, at least of that I'm certain. I'm just a little unhappy she did that.
 
Your wife has every right to be angry with you. The call to the credit card company was crazy, but that's the thing about anger - people don't exactly think straight when they're angry. In her position I might have done something equally nuts.

It occurs to me that it's not the size of the bill that's making your wife angry, but the fact that you're buying things on a credit card without her knowledge. Maybe my marriage is unusual, but neither of us spends anything without the other's knowledge, beyond the most basic everyday essentials.

As to the bar situation, I think a married man should go out of his way to avoid situations in which a woman might ask for his phone number - and if he should inadvertently find himself in such a situation, there's only one acceptable answer: "No thanks, I'm married."

Edit: I don't think the credit card company would actually cancel the card without a death certificate.
 
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It just makes me wonder if you pay the bill out of your own pocket or the account you have together?
 
Well I had been giving her all my money and letting her take care of things since she probably knew better what she was doing here in Japan. Even at times when I was making a fair amount of money she was always trying to reduce my pocket money, it was set at 20 000 yen a month but then further reduced by half later on, and all I saw was her buying stuff she in the end never used, so I asked her to keep track of it and let me see where our money was going. She never did that, and when pressed cited something about she just didn't feel like doing anything for me since that day twelve years ago I almost cheated on her.

So really, neither of us keeps the other updated on money we spend.

Fair criticisms though, I just don't feel I know how to tell someone no in this situation without seeming somehow harsh about it.
 
If you're not trolling, then you need some serious thinking of your personal lifestyle. Credit card problems, yet you continue to run up a bill.
Angry wife, yet you get drunk (alone?) and give a woman your email.
 
A little less self-indulgence (and not only the monetary kind) would probably help.

There's a background of mistrust over womanizing (real or perceived, it matters not), and she's pissed over spending too much money (fairly or unfairly, it matters not).....and you react by going out to blow more money in a place that she knows damned well is frequented by women looking to get picked up by foreigners and have little enough sense to come home with a strange number on your phone? That degree of self-indulgent behavior is so unfathomably clueless and nonsensical that any woman will take it as having been done deliberately just to piss her off more. It is the equivalent of attempting to put out a house fire by throwing gasoline on it. It's so unthinkably nutty that one can't help but presume deliberate intent.

You're lucky all she did was call somebody and tell them you're dead. I don't see how you had the nerve to go to sleep in a house containing both her and sharp objects. I'd be afraid I'd really "wake up dead".
 
I don't see how you had the nerve to go to sleep in a house containing both her and sharp objects. I'd be afraid I'd really "wake up dead".

Or missing something like a certain Mr. Bobbitt.
 
This thread is blowing my mind. Wow! Okay! Well, you seemed to have gotten a credit card to circumvent the lessening amount of pocket money you're getting each month. You noted that she spent quite a bit of money on items that were "never" used. You've said you also "almost cheated" on her. Everything seems a tad fubar! This is clearly an issue of trust in the relationship between you and your wife. This also seems like a fantastic prologue for a Japanese horror film!

The first question that I feel needs to be answered is this: Why are you married to your wife?
 
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