RockLee said:mankind is the most cruel species alive...again demonstrated by these facts above...makes you feel disgusted by the things that the human species is capable off
Why was none of the 76 surviving war criminals who engaged in illegal experiments on humans put on trial and served justice according to law ? In fact they continue with their medical businesses with privilege, with immunity, holding secure jobs in government (3), the military (6), research facilities (19), universities and colleges (24), private clinics (15), pharmaceuticals (8), and other (1).
At least three of these, 內藤良一 (防疫硏究室), 北野政次(731部隊 部隊長), 大田黑猪一郞(9420部隊) were involved in the sales of AIDS contaminated serum to some 2,000 patients. They currently enjoy their privileged lives as founding members and presidents of Green Cross, Green Cross Tokyo, and Green Cross Kyoto. Why are they being rewarded for their criminal behavior during WWII ? (Nanjing Peace Forum 2002)
I think both scientific curiosity and the possible uses of any new medical technology to further Imperial Japan's interests were at the base of such bizarre-sounding experiments. This can be seen from how much the US had taken all precautions to secure the full transmission of human experimentation results in the US military. Anti-frost bite medicine developed by the US is known to be world-class owing to the knowledge provided by the IJA medical experts who participated in the human experiments at Unit 731 etc. The hantavirus studied by Dr Ishii in 1939 emerged during the Korean war to claim thousands of lives since. Who released the Santa?Kinsao said:That about amputating the arm and re-attaching to opposite side... why would anyone want to do that? :?
O, don't worry about how you might look in others' eyes, Horizon. In fact I am glad to find someone so positive about this type of research. Interested ?And I really do hope all that didn't make me sound like a cold-blooded, compassionless monster...
lexico said:No one will be charged for crime against humanity or genocide because this document will be destroyed to prevent me from being tried, prosecuted, judged, and condemned, because there will be other "Horizons" who will speak on my behalf as you are doing for the criminals of Unit 731. Thank you for your contribution.
Your post above; that is what it boils down to. But I am glad that is not what you meant. Giving any moral support (positive comment included) can be considered participating in genocide, esp. if a connection to a future genocide can be established in a court ruling on the grounds of either of the following, one can also be charged for assisting genocidal criminal behaviour. Spreading ideas sympathetic to genocidal behaviour is no exception.Horizon said:You think I'm defending them ?
As for the treatment of Cruelty to Animals, I really don't have a stand. I think there is some relationship between that and cruelty against humans. At the same time, I believe that that the latter deserves primary attention. I am sorry if this disappoints you. Is there some objective and legally binding system governing animal cruelty ? Still comparing Unit 731 Human Experiments with Animal Experiments (although understandable in principle) runs the danger of being disrespectful of the 3,000 to 20,000 individuals who perished as human test subjects or those who were massacred at the end of WWII as the Soviets marched into Manchuria in 1945.
Wikipedia said:After these laboratories were destroyed by the Japanese to hide their activities, many of the scientists involved went on to prominent careers in politics, academia and business. The United States granted amnesty, allowing these scientists to go unprosecuted in exchange for their experimentation data.
Me neither; in fact, I tend to believe animals are far more intelligent than what they seem to be. A good analogy would be the case of an individual who lacks at least one major means of perception/communication. Loss of vision/hearing or speech ability might make it difficult to see the true intelligence, but it is just hidden. It is amazing to get those weird moments of realisation when I see a personality, a thought (a whole lot of it) in a pet who seems to read the environment and read my language/mind/facial & bodily signals pretty accurately. As for emotions, I think they have all those you mentioned; pain and misery? Definitely; those are the most basic emotions-- the deepest and most powerful ones in my considered opinion.Ehhh...Well, I don't really find myself capable of thinking of animals as inferier beings whatsoever. Especially considering we ourselves are animals, are we not? Even if animals aren't as 'intelligent' as we are, I'm still pretty sure they don't deserve the treatment and attitude they recieve from the majority of people. For that matter, even if they cannot feel anymore emotion besides from anger, fear, and happiness, or something of the sort, which I highly doubt, I'm sure they still feel pain and misery and nothing that can feel those last two things there deserve to be treated so horribly and disgustingly as the animals almost always are.
Except for if they did something wrong, like murdered, raped, or tortured something to death. That is, of course, the exception, although, really now, I find myself thinking only humans are capable of that though really as I don't think other animals know exactly what they're doing in these cases, unlike humans...
I admire your ability to empathise with your pet rat, fish, and other animals. I think it is such a quality that makes you more humane by seeing beyond the human race. I also hope that your insight into animal beings can somehow trickle down on us humans, too. Unless we are so vastly undeserving, that is.And it's disrespectful towards them? At least they get the sympathy they deserve...Not to mention, a lot of people wish to seek their revenge for them as well. Unlike the poor, innocent, little animals who are only being tortured and being murdered just so we can defy nature some more, as if we already haven't done that enough. Thank you for all the information on this as well.
Absolutely, Horizon. That is definitely a hot project that either the Hague or another legal body must take care of in the future.sn't America just as much to blame for these people not being punished as Japan is?
Quote: Wikipedia
After these laboratories were destroyed by the Japanese to hide their activities, many of the scientists involved went on to prominent careers in politics, academia and business. The United States granted amnesty, allowing these scientists to go unprosecuted in exchange for their experimentation data.