Check understanding + Line of a song.

1. It's about sentences describing nouns. Please check that these are correct:

卵を買った男 = a man that bought eggs.

店に行って卵を買った男 = a man that went to a store and bought eggs.

店に行って卵を夕食のために買った男 = a man that went to the store and bought eggs for dinner.

Breaking away from that, this:

彼は何があっても仲間を守る男だ = he is a man who will protect his comrades no matter what may happen.

One final example:

闇を見極めるものだけは輝っている光の兵になる = only those who see through the darkness will become shining warriors of light.

I expect errors here and there (or everywhere). Please make necessary corrections.

2. As for the "line of a song" it is this:

"フェアリーテイル この手で 掴んだ光は" (Spaces were actually there).

I am pretty sure that this is describing the 光。But it's different to the others somehow. at first I thought it was "The light that Fairy Tail seized with their own hands" but then I actually looked at it and then translated it literally literally backwards (how I usually translate Japanese literally) it ends up like "the light that was seized with these hands Fairy Tail." Which of course makes no sense. So yeah. I don't know what is going on here. Please assist.

よろしくお願いします：）

LewiiG said:

卵を買った男 = a man that bought eggs.

店に行って卵を買った男 = a man that went to a store and bought eggs.

店に行って卵を夕食のために買った男 = a man that went to the store and bought eggs for dinner.

彼は何があっても仲間を守る男だ = he is a man who will protect his comrades no matter what may happen.

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All correct.

LewiiG said:

闇を見極めるものだけは輝っている光の兵になる = only those who see through the darkness will become shining warriors of light.

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a few correction
闇を見極める/見通す/見透かすものだけが、輝いている/輝ける/光っている光の兵になる

輝っている is grammatically wrong.
I prefer 見透かす, which connotes "to see the true, especially evil nature of something", and 輝ける, which is a classical way of saying 輝いている.

LewiiG said:

2. As for the "line of a song" it is this:

"フェアリーテイル この手で 掴んだ光は" (Spaces were actually there).

I am pretty sure that this is describing the 光。But it's different to the others somehow. at first I thought it was "The light that Fairy Tail seized with their own hands" but then I actually looked at it and then translated it literally literally backwards (how I usually translate Japanese literally) it ends up like "the light that was seized with these hands Fairy Tail." Which of course makes no sense. So yeah. I don't know what is going on here. Please assist.

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That line is not a single sentence/clause. There actually is a period after フェアリーテイル.

Toritoribe said:

a few correction
闇を見極める/見通す/見透かすものだけが、輝いている/輝ける/光っている光の兵になる

輝っている is grammatically wrong.

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Oh yeah. Rikaichan said it was right. Weird. But of course, ~く -> いて、いた etc. Over realiance on programs right there.

Toritoribe said:

I prefer 見透かす, which connotes "to see the true, especially evil nature of something"

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Okay. Thanks. I was looking for this sort of meaning and ended up finding the other one. That one would be more appropriate.

Toritoribe said:

That line is not a single sentense/clause. There actually is a period after フェアリーテイル.

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Wow. Really? Okay well that makes things a lot easier. The song is just calling the name. Thanks for clearing that up.

Toritoribe said:

and 輝ける, which is a classical way of saying 輝いている.

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Interesting... Is this a one off thing that I should remember? Or does it happen that words in potential form sometimes can be "classical" for ~ている？

輝ける is seemingly the same as the potential form of 輝く, but actually they are different. 輝け is 已然形[いぜんけい] (the equivalent to the -ba conditional stem in Modern Japanese) of 輝く, and る is 連体形[れんたいけい] (the adnominal/attributive form) of a classical auxiliary verb り, which expresses continuous or perfective aspect. This form is still used in classical expressions, for instance 花咲ける騎士道 "the Japanese title of an old French movie 'Fanfan la Tulipe'" or 生ける屍 "living dead". (As you can see, 生ける is different from the potential form 生きられる. This 生け is 已然形 of a classical verb 生[い]く.)

LewiiG said:

"フェアリーテイル この手で 掴んだ光は" (Spaces were actually there).

I am pretty sure that this is describing the 光。But it's different to the others somehow. at first I thought it was "The light that Fairy Tail seized with their own hands" but then I actually looked at it and then translated it literally literally backwards (how I usually translate Japanese literally) it ends up like "the light that was seized with these hands Fairy Tail." Which of course makes no sense. So yeah. I don't know what is going on here. Please assist.

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You might already realized this, but この手 means "my hands".

Toritoribe said:

輝ける is seemingly the same as the potential form of 輝く, but actually they are different. 輝け is 已然形[いぜんけい] (the equivalent to the -ba conditional stem in Modern Japanese) of 輝く, and る is 連体形[れんたいけい] (the adnominal/attributive form) of a classical auxiliary verb り, which expresses continuous or perfective aspect. This form is still used in classical expressions, for instance 花咲ける騎士道 "the Japanese title of an old French movie 'Fanfan la Tulipe'" or 生ける屍 "living dead". (As you can see, 生ける is different from the potential form 生きられる. This 生け is 已然形 of a classical verb 生[い]く.)

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Okay, I see. I'll watch out for words like that then. Thanks.

Toritoribe said:

You might already realized this, but この手 means "my hands".

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Yeah, I realize. I just initially thought it was Fairy Tail's hand for some reason. I guess that would have just been フェアリーテイルの手で or something.

Anyway, thanks again for the multiple answers and advice you have given me, Toritoribe! You have my eternal gratitude! (For what it's worth lol).