Despite the effort from the association to dispel the perception of those people as sub-citizens (how they were viewed in the past), the long shadow of centuries-old discrimination is still felt to this day. "Sujin is the burakumin ghetto. I personally don't think of them badly, but definitely, my parents do, as they expressly told me 'to be careful if I found myself close to them," said Yudai, a 43-year-old salaryman who comes to Kyoto on Sunday to fish in the Kamo river. In fact, it is very near this river that the burakumin historically lived, and today many of their descendants still reside here.