ano hi, aruite imashita(One day I was walking...)

[Skullcrushergurl]

As I was walking, I was trying to construct sentences.
feel free to correct them Romaji please. My computer won't read kanji:​

1. Machi ni ame ga arimasu.
(There is rain in the street)
2. Koko ni aruite ikimashita.
(I walked here.)
3. Machi de aruite imasu
(I am walking in the street)

With these sentences, I got a little confused with "ni" and "de" and where to put them.​

 

[Charles Barkley]

As I was walking, I was trying to construct sentences.
feel free to correct them Romaji please. My computer won't read kanji:​

1. Machi ni ame ga arimasu.
(There is rain in the street)
2. Koko ni aruite ikimashita.
(I walked here.)
3. Machi de aruite imasu
(I am walking in the street)

With these sentences, I got a little confused with "ni" and "de" and where to put them.​

1. Would you really say this in English? This seems like a case where you know some words in japanese, so you adjust what you would have naturally said in English to make it fit the English translations of the Japanese words that you currently know. Anyway, the word you'd want to use here, similar to English, is probably the word 'wet,' or nureru. The rain caused the wetness, so maybe: michi wa ame de nureta.

2) koko ni aruite kimashita. I'd probably say (perhaps its a wrong habit I picked up) koko made aruite kimashita.

3) I think you're right, but I am not sure. The particle 'de' might be used here because you are focusing on the fact that you are walking, rather than that you are walking through some area. In the latter case, you would use the particle 'wo/o'. I think. Anyone else?

 

[EvilCowSlayer]

I pretty much agree with you, Charles. I think you would use "made" in the second one as emphasis, if you wanted to emphasize "here".

As for the third sentence, I also would use "de" here. Using "wo" to indicate that you went through some place would more fit a sentence like, "I walked down the street.", I think.

 

[Skullcrushergurl]

Okay. Could someone rewrite them the correct way for me.
Sorry but you two have confused me.

 

[EvilCowSlayer]

The first sentence would be, "Michi wa ame de nureta."

The second sentence would be, "Koko made aruite ikimashita."

 

[bakaKanadajin]

My Japanese is pretty poor but I'll offer 2 cents here since I think I can manage it!

Charles I agree with your statements. I just wanted to add my own interperetations on top.

1) If she indeed wants to say that it's raining in the streets/city, or raining at all, usually in terms of discussing weather the equivalent is just 'ame desu.' My teacher told me that weather is broken into two main groups usually, what is and how it feels. So she may say, machi ni ame desu.

2) In saying koko ni aruite ikimashita, it to me seems strange, like saying 'I went here by walking' (when discussing the place you're currently occupying.) I think using kuru was a better choice. In terms of whats natural.. the question begged by this answers would be 'how did you get here?'. I think the most natural answer would be arukimashita. No need to mention the 'here', as its understood. Japanese functions on minimalism when possible (as I have come to know it).

3) This one strikes me as similar to saying "I'm performing the act of walking and the place I'm doing it is in the street". I think 'wo' can be used to better communicate the idea of walking down or along the street, or through the street. I know this usually holds true for toru, to pass through.

I'm probably completely wrong but these are my meager JLPT4-level interpretations!

 

[Mars Man]

The only thing I'd like to add here--since otherwise the above posts cover all the sentences--is possible variances on interpretation of the possible situation.

Before that, however, I'd like to encourage you, skullcrushergurl chan, to keep up the good work. Keep on playing around with the structures and words, figures of speech and so on, and little by little you'll get better and better !! Keeping a running conversation in the Romaji thread you started is a good idea too !!

My interpretation was in regards the situation in the street. I took it as a setting where the rain had let up, but yet there were still puddles in the street--of course the street would be wet too, but that would be less, what, poetic?

ame futa ato no mizutamari ga michi ni achi kochi arimasu.
(there are puddles after the rain in the street)

Of course this is simply my style, and is not so naturally Japanese. I hope you got the above suggestions and all, skullcrushergurl chan !

 

[ajmd20]

2) In saying koko ni aruite ikimashita, it to me seems strange, like saying 'I went here by walking' (when discussing the place you're currently occupying.) I think using kuru was a better choice. In terms of whats natural.. the question begged by this answers would be 'how did you get here?'. I think the most natural answer would be arukimashita. No need to mention the 'here', as its understood. Japanese functions on minimalism when possible (as I have come to know it).

I'm imagining a situation where the speaker is pointing to somewhere they walked to on a map.

 

[bakaKanadajin]

I'm imagining a situation where the speaker is pointing to somewhere they walked to on a map.

ahh, naru hodo. In that case, your interpretation would definitely be suitable!

 

[Skullcrushergurl]

Shimatta!! so why "michi" instead of "machi"?!!!
Anyway thank you stupid canadian(lol). I was looking for simple sentences. So you mean I could say:
Koko ni aruite kimashita? I came (by) walking if a person didn't ask me? deshou?
And machi ni ame desu. Is good too?

 

[Mars Man]

skullcrushergurl chan. . . machi means town or an area in a town, basically, and michi means path or street or way, basically.

I think, as pointed out at one point earlier, the koko ni part is not really needed--unless, maybe you were using koko made (then it might be good to say it)--so even if nobody had asked you, 'dou yatte kimashita ka?' (How did you get here?) you could inform those you possibly could have met with, 'aruite kimashita yo' (I walked here).

Ganbatte kudasai !!

 

[tendon]

Shimatta!! so why "michi" instead of "machi"?!!!

The other posters wrote "michi" because your original sentence was "There is rain in the street."
If you mean streets in general, "machi" can be used, because it points to the city/town in general, including its streets.
The sentence with "machi":
* Machi wa ame desu. (It is raining in the city/streets.)
* Machi wa ame de nurete imasu. (The city/streets are wet with rain.)

Koko ni aruite kimashita? I came (by) walking if a person didn't ask me? deshou?

To say I came here (on foot):
Koko made aruite kimashita. OR Koko e aruite kimashita.
"Made" means "up to (a certain location, point in time, etc.)" and points to the place you are heading or have arrived.
"E" (written with the hiragana "he") has the same meaning, but more the destination or the goal.

ano hi, aruite imashita (One day I was walking...)

About your thread title, "ano hi" means "that" day or a special day that you have in mind.
If you want to say "one day" to mean any day, you have to use: "Aru hi"
If you want to say "one day in the past," you have to use phrases like "konomae" (the other day) or "senjitsu" (one day in the recent past). You can also be specific by saying "kinou" (yesterday), "senshu" (last week), etc.