Amazing, Mysterious Nazca Geometric Figure

[EdZiomek]

I am sending this same information to many interested students of history, science, mathematics and design, that of a "Zodiac-geometric design" found among the Nazca lines of Peru. As you may know, the origins of these figures, and the persons and tribes who created them, are unknown.

I would venture to say that only advanced engineering academics of today could reproduce this amazing design, with any accuracy as it appears to entail.

Possibly they were of Asian origin, nobody knows.

These latest designs I believe were discovered by G. J. de Jong, of the Netherlands....

and is also mentioned on World-mysteries.com....

"Nazca Lines - Theories..." compiled by Alex Sokolowski...

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_1_2.htm

(Page down 19 pages....)

They are also contained on de Jong's website...

http://www.conceptgroen.nl/Nasca_bot.htm

http://www.conceptgroen.nl/Nasca_bot001.htm

I believe this design is totally unique in the entire world, and is a fabulous historic discovery...

How small we are today, compared to these brilliant human beings of ??? 2000/4000/5000 years ago.

Any comments or similar websites involving the diffusion of ancient cultures, unexplained artifacts and histories, would be appreciated. Thank you.

 

[MajideSaiaku]

Considoring we can tamper with genetics, land a man on the moon if we wish, and create the arguably more intricate innards of computer technology, I'de say were not really that small in comparison at all.

Modern humans for teh win!!!1!!!2 :danger:

Nah the lines stuff is cool.

I love ye ancient mysteries, the period of human tribal stone-age society and primitive civilizations is a vast and highly foggy one, emagine everything we dont even know.

AW man it speaks to the very essence of my soul. ☝

 

[EdZiomek]

Nurizeko... I am told, the language of the ancients was... Mathematics. It is found in ancient astronomy, and ancient architecture, and astrology, even the shape and function of the human body. Even, they say, what humanoids describe as "beauty", is simply balanced forms of math and design!

Thanks for your comments.

 

[natmoon]

I did watch a documentry some time ago now on these nazca lines and one of the scientists believed that they were made to show the way to water,i dont know if thats true and im sure we will never know,as to the large heads thing i also heard that this is the result of head banding from an early age to create that shaped head,i think something to ponder on is that maybe if our heads and brains were shaped in that way,would we think differently or more cleverly?

 

[Pachipro]

I don't think we will ever discover the true meaning and purpose of the Nazca lines and drawings, but it further lends credence to the theory that there was a more advanced civilization before ours that was, in some ways , maybe more advanced then present day civilization in their own, unique way.

I mean these lines are only discernable from the air and not on the ground. Therefore, they would have to have been made with the full knowledge that they were ment to be seen from the air! One would ask why. Could it be that, in a previous civilization, these lines were "markers" guiding those from the air to their "destination"? If so, that would mean that the people on the ground knew about flying aircraft or craft from other than this planet.

To completely rule out previous, advanced civilizations tens of thousands of years ago or even hundreds of thousands of years ago is to lock oneself in a box and accept being force fed what the present day educational institutions want you to believe. "They say it and teach it, so it must be true." Not!

Explain how the primitive "Doggone Tribe" of Africa knew that Sirius (The Dog Star) was actually two suns revolving around one another and that they were told this by "people" from this area generations ago. Scientists, with the aid of the Hubble telescope have proved this.

Explain how the Sumerians knew about all the planets in the solar system and their location and makeup! They knew, and documented Pluto, Neptune, and Uranus 6,000 years before we rediscovered it.

Who built the pyramids of Egypt which we don't even have the technology or machinery to reproduce? The Japanese have tried and failed and to believe that they were made by slaves is pure hogwash as has already been scientifically proven.

There have been many findings to date which lead to the existance of previous advanced civilizations and that the earth herself goes through major changes every 13,000 - 15,000 years, but you will never read about in major educational institutions.

Some scientists feel that, with the crazy weather and global warming we are experiencing that the earth is ready for another major pole shift, or change. Scientists have even said that the poles reverse position every 15,000 years or so. When this happens, what was above water goes below and what is below rises again to the surface.

The Andes mountains in South America are said to have "abruptly risen from sea level to their present height in a matter of hours!" This can be proved by the fossilized remains of sea creatures on her peaks! The same with the Rocky Mountains and the mountains surrounding Las Vegas. Even today one can find sea shells at altitudes exceeding 5,000 ft! There are many "unexplained" anomalies of previous earth changes, but I won't go into them here.

Therefore, I believe that the Nazca lines, along with the Pyramids and other "wonders" were made by a technologically advanced civilization that existed tens of thousands previous to ours. As the saying from a popular TV series says, "The truth is out there." The only problem is how many people are willing to believe it, or even accept it?

 

[MajideSaiaku]

what was above water goes below and what is below rises again to the surface.

Thats just downright non-science.

I dont know where to start refuting that nonsense, suffice to say, even someone without much understanding of the universe would see this as just daft.

The flipping poles are the magnetic ones, geography doesnt change, the world doesnt suddenly flip upside down.Geomagnetic reversal - Wikipedia


And the tectonics required to submerge everything above land and rise the ocean floors, trenches and sea's/lakes would just be against all known laws of physics.

The andes didnt rise in one day, though in geological time they have risen quite fast.

They are force up because they are the crumpled edge of the South American continental plate as the pacific plate pushes into the SA plate and is forced under.

Your right in that at one point the sediments that were at a bottom of a sea are now sedementary rocks at the top of mountains, this is what occurs when rock from low down is forced up as an edge of a plate crumples. Those fossils are thousands if not millinos of years old, more then enough time for the rocks they are formed in to rise over time. there at the "top" of the mountains because the rock that was above them have been weathered away by wind and water over a long time.

This is why the andes arent even taller.

This is why ancient moutain chains that were once like the himalaya's are now mere broken hills.

Like most geological processes the time it took would seem an eternity to humans.
Andes - Wikipedia

Many experiements and studies have provided plenty of means by how the Egyptians built the pyramids and moved about the large rocks.

One of my favorate is using shapped wood to turn the rock into a glorified double-wheel, by placing shaped wooden peices on both ends to turn both ends into wheels.

Humans have acheived suprising things, building the pyramids is as fantastic as breaking the human genome, but not more difficult, especially for a motivated group of people.

Modern engineering has enabled us to build the most bizzare structures, a pyramid is hardly an engineering nightmare, its a very stable shape.


We dont have all the awnsers but thats no excuse to disregard the ones we do have.

 

[EdZiomek]

Nurizeko...

I appreciate your comments. You seem to disagree on some opinions, where your opinions are also unproven.

Your comment..."The flipping poles are the magnetic ones, geography doesnt change, the world doesnt suddenly flip upside down."

Actually, there is the speculation that the "skin of the apple", meaning the outer shell of the earth, slips around a molten iron core, and might in fact "flip upside down" from its geographic position over the last 3-5 billion years. But again, one theory versus another theory.

Or your further comment..."And the tectonics required to submerge everything above land and rise the ocean floors, trenches and sea's/lakes would just be against all known laws of physics." If you take a look at the Australian Continent, there is a faint, massive circular crater impression dead center, something like (I am guessing) 1000 miles diameter. Might such a massive asteroid or meteor, impacting at 30,000 miles an hour, also be able to cause catastrophic depression and uplift, in a heartbeat?

Who is right, who is wrong, or are we all right?

 

[kombizz]

love to see "them"
http://www.usefilm.com/Image.asp?ID=1065283
http://www.usefilm.com/Image.asp?ID=1066007
http://www.usefilm.com/Image.asp?ID=1065949

 

[EdZiomek]

Update on Nazca

Over the next few weeks, I will add to this old discussion with the research findings I have made indicating what has been said 10,000 times before: the Nazca figures of Peru are astrological placement figures, corresponding to the ancient practice and mind-set of ..."As above, so below".

The desert floor is a carbon copy of the celestial sky as the ancient peoples observed in their time.

The desert floor of Nazca is a rare opportunity, I feel, for real experts to study the aspect and disposition of these figures, with their corresponding modern-day constellation association, to find out when these figures were placed as they are.

Number one is the an overall view of the Nazca layout figures, and their present-day placement.


from Nazca Lines and Culture
Nazca Lines and Cahuachi Culture - Crystalinks

The North and South occurrence of spirals in the Nazca graphics I believe indicate North Pole and South Pole celestial pole/column orientations, such as the stars today labeled...'Thuban' and 'Crux'.

Specifically, in this message, I would like to display the spiral monkey of Nazca, which apparently is located on the Southern portion of the map, and is also pointed in a southerly direction. I believe this is the constellation named since Greek times as "Centaurus". Today, however, the constellation apparently is pointed East. The spiral in the tail may reflect the Southern celestial pole of ancient times, which the monkey is connected to, but Centaurus is not. The modern day Southern celestial pole is most closest to the star "Crux".



All opinions are appreciated, and more research to follow.

 

[Goldiegirl]

Digging for the Truth, with Josh Bernstein did a great story on the Nazca lines. Josh even found a new one when they were flying over the sites. How cool! You can download the episode from Itunes.