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1のように / 参った / 面、表と裏 / とは

eeky

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Hi,


1. 1のように具体例を出さず、・・・

Can this be understood in two different ways?:

1のように [具体例を出さず]、・・・
[1のように具体例] を出さず、・・・


2. 「酔っ払って怒鳴るやら、物を投げるやら、木村さんに はほんとに参ったよ。」

Is this saying that the speaker was annoyed with 木村さん because 木村さん was drunk and shouting and throwing things?


3. This is part of an explanation of the use of 一方で.

一つのことについて、対照的な二つの面、表と裏を取り 立てる。

I suppose 面, 表 and 裏 are three separate objects of 取り立てる, yes?


4. そんなふるまいをするとは彼も子供じみていた。

Translation given: "It was childish of him to behave like that."

Could のは be used instead of とは in this sentence? Would there be any difference in meaning?
 
1)
Three different interpretations are possible.

i)
as same as 1
1 doesn't use concrete examples. The subject of the sentence doesn't use them, either.

ii)
unlike 1
1 uses concrete examples, but the subject of the sentence doesn't use them.

iii)
unlike 1
1 uses concrete examples. The subject of the sentence also uses concrete examples, but the way to use them are different from the way of 1.

2)
Yes.

3)
対照的な二つの面 and 表と裏 are two sets of objects. They can be both in parataxis "対照的な二つの面や表と裏", or paraphrase "対照的な二つの面、即ち/つまり表と裏", I think.

4)
のは can't be used. It should be, for instance, そんなふるまいをするのは/したのは、彼が子供じみていたからだ/せいだ for the case. のは is for reason/cause, whereas とは is used to express the speakers's feelings/emotions such like surprise, anger or being moved.
 
Thank you!

I guess 表と裏 refers to the opposite sides of something then, similar in meaning to 対照的な二つの面?

(I had to look up "parataxis" ... you'll be teaching me English next, as well as Japanese!)
 
Yes, that's right.

Then, the word must be quite an uncommon one.
 
OK, thanks.

(Yes, I think most English speakers would not known "parataxis". Only language specialists would know that one I think.)
 
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