（やってらんね）とは？？

MtoM

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こんにちは、みなさま。

どんどん近づいている、僕がアメリカに留学するときは。
わくわくして、ぞくぞくしている。初めて一人で外国に行くから。尽いた瞬間何するべきかさえ知らないのだから、時々緊張！でも、後で安心する。何とかなりそうな気がするから。そしてあそこ腕を上げる大切なチャンスがある。日本語も英語も磨くつもりです。それから、多分もうひとつの言語を習い始めるかも。
（（インジアナ、プルドゥ大学、私を待っていてください））

はい、質問がある。（やってらんね）とは、何から略されてる？正確なる意味は？
はい、小さな質問です。

よろしく

 

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nhk9

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27 Aug 2004

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If I am not wrong, it should be a contracted version of やってられないhttp://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/search.php?MT=%A4%E4%A4%C3%A4%C6&kind=jn&mode=0&base=1&row=3

The japanese like to contract "re" to "n", such as in "shite kurenai?" to "shite kunnai?" Also, you probably know already that nai is often changed to ne-, especially among youngsters in standard phrases such as "fuzaken jane- yo" (don't try to play your tricks on me!!). Chinami ni, This sentence does not have the best grammar, but apparently a very popular say of saying "fuzakeru na" in kansai region.

 

Glenn

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8 Jan 2004

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It isn't just れ that gets contracted: わからない -> わかんない

I think it's a ラ行 to ん conversion. I don't know for certain of any other members of the ラ行 that undergo the conversion regularly, but 何知っとんだ？ doesn't seem too far-fetched to me.

Looks like you're right on with the rest of it.

 

MtoM

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Greath, thanks nhk9 for the link. though I always use the goo dictionary,I never thought that this phrase would be there.
you are absolutely correct :
やってられない
（連語）
あきれてしまって、今している事をやり続けることができないの意。
「部長があれでは、とても―よ」

Thanks a lot

 

MtoM

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Hello everyone,,again

I have a new sentence structure I want to discuss:
(pre-masu form)+(otta)
eg: kuru----> kiotta
suru---->shiotta
Untill now I couldn't figure out its proper use,, who use it usually((anyone?old people?the young?men?women?))? is it polite or is it like "yagaru"??? is "otta" the past tense of "oru>>to exist"?? Does the combination ki-oru, for example, exist??

If you know anything please don't hesitate

thank you very much

 

JimmySeal

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Where are you hearing/reading kiotta? Replacing iru with oru and contracting it with things is commonly done by old people, but where I live, almost everyone does it.
I don't think it's polite (oru is a humble verb when used to refer to oneself, but when one uses it with everything and contracts it with stuff, it's no longer polite), but it's nothing like -yagaru either. I think when old people use it, it conveys a degree of self importance, and when people in Tokushima use it, it conveys a degree of hayseed upbringing.

 

MtoM

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mm, That is going to help but,,, can I have more details?(maybe few examples will do)

thanx

 

Elizabeth

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Also, you probably know already that nai is often changed to ne-, especially among youngsters in standard phrases such as "fuzaken jane- yo" (don't try to play your tricks on me!!). Chinami ni, This sentence does not have the best grammar, but apparently a very popular say of saying "fuzakeru na" in kansai region.

Click to expand...

It isn't just kansai. I think it's a ruder form of the phrase anywhere.