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Mike Cash · 10 Jul 2006

A blanket statement is a statement which covers everything, like a blanket.

"Japanese women are hot!"
"Americans are tall."
"Japanese can't speak English well."

The above are some examples of blanket statements. (Otherwise known as "generalizations"). The sentences are correct in some/many instances, but they are not correct in all cases. But the way they are phrased means that all Japanese women are hot, all Americans are tall, and no Japanese can speak English well. Clearly, this is not always the case. The sentences, as written, broadly cover all Japanese women, Americans, and Japanese speakers of English....like a blanket.

Kyoko_desu · 11 Jul 2006

Originally Posted by Glenn
Ewok was alluding to eating popcorn while watching movies, as you correctly guessed. It's along the lines of people liking to eat popcorn while being entertained, and he saw the thread as a form of entertainment, like a movie, so he wanted some popcorn so he could sit back and enjoy the show.
I think ghettocities was just admitting his ignorance as to what Mike Cash and GodEmperorLeto were arguing about.

ああ！ewokさんはMike Cash さんとGodEmperorLetoさんとのやり取りを見て、おもしろいショーを見ているように感じたんですね。そして、その展開を、リラックスしてポップコーンでも食べながら映画を見るような気持ちで楽しもう、という体勢に入ったっていうことなんですね！

私は、ポップコーンというものから映画を連想するところまでは正しかったみたいですけど、そのあとはちょっと間違っていたようです。
二本立ての映画を見るときに、ひとつめとふたつめの映画の間に休憩時間がありますよね？
その休憩時間にジュースやお菓子を食べたりトイレに行ったりして、ひとつめの映画を見ておこった興奮を鎮めて、新たな気持ちになってふたつめに臨むために、気分転換しますよね？
そんな感じで、ewokさんは、ポップコーンでも食べてちょっと頭を冷やそうよ！と言いたかったのかなって思ってしまったんです。

そして、ghettocitiesさんは、あのブランケット発言で、ちょっとチャチャを入れてみたかっただけだったんですね〜。

Glenn さんの説明はとてもわかりやすかったです、ありがとうございました！

Originally Posted by Elizabeth
享子さんもちょっとややこしくしたいのなら、英語のポストで日本語だけの表現を使い始めたらいいね。皆さん逃げますよ

すみません、エリザベスさん、よくおっしゃることの意味がわからないんです。
私が何をややこしくしたいということですか？英語でのポストで日本語だけの表現とは具体的にはどういうことですか？それから、もしかして、私が誰かに逃げていってもらいたがっているとお考えなんですか？
なんか質問攻めみたいになってしまってごめんなさいね。
もしよかったら、この部分を、英語で書いていただけませんか？私なりに一生懸命日本語にしてみて考えますね。お願いします。

Lastly, to Mike Cash san
I see! I perfectly understand what it is now, thank you very much! Now I can't wait to say "I'm sick of your blanket statements about Japanese women!" to you know who, hehehehe. 言っちゃった〜！！

Glenn · 11 Jul 2006

Kyoko_desu said:
私は、ポップコーンというものから映画を連想するところまでは正しかったみたいですけど、そのあとはちょっと間違っていたようです。
二本立ての映画を見るときに、ひとつめとふたつめの映画の間に休憩時間がありますよね？
その休憩時間にジュースやお菓子を食べたりトイレに行ったりして、ひとつめの映画を見ておこった興奮を鎮めて、新たな気持ちになってふたつめに臨むために、気分転換しますよね？
そんな感じで、ewokさんは、ポップコーンでも食べてちょっと頭を冷やそうよ！と言いたかったのかなって思ってしまったんです。

おお、そうですか。でも、現在はそんなものが行われていないと思っています。少なくとも私は聞いたことがないんです。日本では連続映画を上映しますか。

Kyoko_desu said:
Glenn さんの説明はとてもわかりやすかったです、ありがとうございました！

どういたしまして。

Kyoko_desu said:
Now I can't wait to say "I'm sick of your blanket statements about Japanese women!" to you know who, hehehehe. 言っちゃった～！！

Hahahaha, that wouldn't happen to anybody named in this thread, would it?

nice gaijin · 11 Jul 2006

This is a blanket statement.

Kyoko_desu · 11 Jul 2006

Originally Posted by Glenn
日本では連続映画を上映しますか。

日本でもメジャーなところでは一本ずつが普通です。（たまにアニメやエロだと二本立てもありますけど。）でも、例えば、時々○○新聞社主催の映画鑑賞会といったものがあるんですけど、そういうところだとアニメや古い映画を、二本立てどころか五本いっぺんに上映することもあるんですよ。私は以前にそういうところで何度かバイトをしたことがあるので多分そちらを連想しちゃったんでしょうね。

Originally Posted by nice gaijin
This is a blanket statement.

んま！ちょうど私がblanket statement について学んだばかりのときに、なんとタイムリーな！
（笑）これでよりいっそう理解を深めることができました。ありがとうございました。

Glenn · 12 Jul 2006

Kyoko_desu said:
日本でもメジャーなところでは一本ずつが普通です。（たまにアニメやエロだと二本立てもありますけど。）でも、例えば、時々○○新聞社主催の映画鑑賞会といったものがあるんですけど、そういうところだとアニメや古い映画を、二本立てどころか五本いっぺんに上映することもあるんですよ。私は以前にそういうところで何度かバイトをしたことがあるので多分そちらを連想しちゃったんでしょうね。

ああ、わかりました。Cannes Film Festivalとかいう行事でそんなものがあるんですね。全然思い付きませんでしたね。（汗）そういうところでバイトしたのはそう連想した訳の説明で享子さんの推測が理解できました。説明してくれてありがとうございます。

Kyoko_desu · 12 Jul 2006

thread title
Is "Gaijin" a Racist Slur?

Post #176

In the future, when I wish to attract the attention of a black person, I will shout "Hey, you enword! C'mere!"
Good morning!
I checked my dictionary and also googled the word "enword" but I couldn't figure out what it means.
Please take a look at what results I got by googling it. enword - Google Search Results
See? They don't make any sense to me at all and I'm more confused. So please teach me, anyone, why he will should that to a black person.
yoroshioku onegai shimasu.

doinkies · 12 Jul 2006

Mike Cash is referring to this word, which is a racist slur for black people. It is commonly referred to as the "'n' word".

nice gaijin · 12 Jul 2006

en is just how the letter "n" is pronounced

Damicci · 12 Jul 2006

Also since the word starts with n and many people feel it to be offensive if spoken. People will say "the n word" in order to reference "nigger" with out being offensive.

(私は黒人から、その言葉を言うことができます。笑）

Kyoko_desu · 12 Jul 2006

ああ！なるほど！！
en = N!!!
どうしてこれに気が付かなかったんだろう。ぐやじ～！
doinkies san, nice gaijin san, Damicci san, thank you so much!
(1)nig*er - very offensive and derogatory
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(2)N-Word - by using this term, you can avoid offending
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(3)enword - you can also use this, because the pronunciation is the same as "N-Word". It's probably even less offensive? よりいっそう婉曲な表現ですか？
So it's okay for me to use the words "N-Word" and "enword", right?

Damicci · 12 Jul 2006

前は"enword"を聞きませんでした。でも、"N-word"だけと言うのがいいと思います。

Mike Cash · 12 Jul 2006

Kyoko_desu said:
So it's okay for me to use the words "N-Word" and "enword", right?

You shouldn't use "enword" (or "N-Word") in the way I used it in the post. I was being facetious in order to make a point that even "politically correct" words can be equally as offensive as the words they replace, depending on how they are used.

In other words, it is the intent behind a word that makes it offensive.

Gaijinian · 12 Jul 2006

Kyoko_desu said:
So it's okay for me to use the words "N-Word" and "enword", right?

It's okay to say, but it is not okay to call someone that (as Mike Cash was pointing out).

Kyoko_desu · 13 Jul 2006

Damicci san, so enword is less common than n-word, right?

And it's okay for me to say "I will scold him the next time I see him saying the n-word.", but I should not say "Hey, n-word, what's up?" to my black friend.

OMG, I'm learning alot every day! Minasan, doumo arigatou gozaimashita!

Kyoko_desu · 13 Jul 2006

Excuse my never-ever ending questions, but I actually have about 10 more questions on my list. And I'm sure the number will be bigger and bigger every day, unless I stop reading the posts. I'm really happy that I decided to create this thread because it's really useful and helpful to me. I sincerely thank Jref and it's members for the help, especially the people in this thread.
みなさん、今日もまたよろしくお願いします。

Now, here goes my next question.

thread title
Is "Gaijin" a Racist Slur?

Post #185

Yup you 'bout right dere! Aiz fergot how dem der folk all talk, bin quite a while

I think Hachiro san was trying to mimic the way the country people In North Carolina State speak even though he said he had forgotten how the people there talk. Anyway, I tried to translate it into standard English.

Yes, you are about right there. I've forgotten how the folks all talk. It's been quite a while.

Now my questions are:
What should the word "dem" be in standard English?
The way they talk is thought to be dasai (uncool) in the US?

nice gaijin · 13 Jul 2006

You're spot-on about the use of "n-word;" it is used when the subject is the use of the word "nigger," and not to be used in place of the word itself (similar to "f-word").

As for your new question, "dem" is a southern slang for "them." I don't know if I'd say a southern accent is dasai, but many consider it to sound... uncultured? A bit under-educated, perhaps.

Personally, I find a light southern accent to sound very pleasant and soothing, but it always depends on who is speaking and where their accent is from. I could say that I like the way English people speak, but there is a wide variety of British accents.

undrentide · 13 Jul 2006

享子さん、このスレッド、とても面白いですね。
みなさんのコメントをなるほど～と思いながら読んでます。

Kyoko_desu said:
Yup you 'bout right dere! Aiz fergot how dem der folk all talk, bin quit a while

I think Hachiro san was trying to mimic the way the country people In North Carolina State speak even though he said he had forgotten how the people there talks. Anyway, I tried to translate it into standard English.

Yes, you are about right there. I've forgotten how the folks all talk. It's been quite a while.

Now my questions are:
What should the word "dem" be in standard English?
The way they talk is thought to be dasai (uncool) in the US?

Here's my wild guess -

Yup you 'bout right dere!
Yep (yes) you are about (?) right there!

Aiz fergot how dem der folk all talk,
I's (=I've) forgot how them the folks (you folks/guys/people) (are) all talk(ing) (about?),

bin quit a while
I've been (away?) for quite a while

Well, my guess might be way out, so I'm looking forward to the explanation by the native speakers.

nice gaijin · 13 Jul 2006

Oh, I guess I should "translate" the whole sentence

"Yes, you're right about that. I forgot how those people talk; it's been quite a while."

Glenn · 13 Jul 2006

If you want to know what all of the words are spelled in standard orthography, then it's "Yup (yep; I think they're both pretty nonstandard), you're about right there! I's (I've; like undrentide guessed) forgot how them there folk all talk. (It's) been quite a while." It's been put into standard English already a few times above.

Mike Cash · 13 Jul 2006

Here's a fun one for you, Kyoko. One which my fellow Southerners should be able to read quite easily, but which may cause others some trouble.

CM DUCKS
MR NOT DUCKS
MR2 DUCKS
CM WANGS
OMR DUCKS

Damicci · 14 Jul 2006

Mike Cash said:
Here's a fun one for you, Kyoko. One which my fellow Southerners should be able to read quite easily, but which may cause others some trouble.

CM DUCKS
MR NOT DUCKS
MR2 DUCKS
CM WANGS
OMR DUCKS

LMAO

Let's try not to make her brain quit.

Glenn · 14 Jul 2006

Haha, it actually took me a second to realize what "wangs" were. That's not quite my brand of southern.

undrentide · 14 Jul 2006

I didn't have a clue!

But thanks to internet, I finally found out that it's a conversation between "two duck hunters in a duck blind on Maryland's Eastern Shore" who "were looking skyward"....

Glenn · 14 Jul 2006

You mean that conversation's been posted on the internet with an explanation? Incredible (or not, I guess).

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