のに vs ても

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Andromedashun

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×お金を入れるのにジュースが出てきませんでした
○お金を入れてもジュースが出てきませんでした
I thought both can be acceptable. I hardly believe the first is wrong, but the text book doesn't use it.

 

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Toritoribe

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のに can be used there. The problem is on another part of the sentence.

 

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Toritoribe said:

The problem is on another part of the sentence.

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? What do you mean? Don't tell me ジュースが出てきませんでした doesn't make sense?

 

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No. If ジュースが出てきませんでした is wrong, why the second sentence is valid? (hint: tense)

 

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Maybe I didn't notice it
お金を入れたのにジュースが出てきませんでした(?)

 

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Right. The present tense can be used only when it expresses the present habit or the characteristic of the things.
e.g.
この自動販売機は、お金を入れるのにいつもジュースが出てきません。

Incidentally, のに also can mean "in order to". The past form can't be attached to のに in this meaning.
e.g.
背が低くて届かなかったので、その子供はお金を入れるのに踏み台を使いました。