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Hi, I'm studying the ~ている form and my textbook says that in some contexts it can be used to 'describe what a person does by occupation.' So, in this context, could the sentence be interchangeable with the ~います form. For example:
  • 私は英語を教えます。
  • 私は英語を教えています。
 
You didn't give a context. Context is not just what is contained in a sentence; it is the surroundings and situation and circumstances in which something is said.

Yes, there are circumstances in which you could say it that way.

A: 日本でなにをしていますか?
B. 英語を教えています。

A.今夜映画を見に行きましょう。
B. 今夜英語を教えていますからだめです。

etc.
 
By context I meant, if when asked about my occupation (teaching English), both sentences can be interchangeable.
 
By context I meant, if when asked about my occupation (teaching English), both sentences can be interchangeable.

Probably not in all circumstances. Right off the top of my head, I can't think of one where you would use 教えます instead of 教えています. There may be some, though, so let's wait and see what wiser heads have to say about it.
 
By context I meant, if when asked about my occupation (teaching English), both sentences can be interchangeable.
In that context, you can't use 私は英語を教えます。 as an answer. It expresses future tense.
e.g.
今は国語を教えていますが、来年からは英語を教えます。
 

That one, I thunk of. Are there any circumstances where it might come up for one's current occupation?
 
6000円で週に3回英語を教えます would be acceptable, but this is more likely explaining about the price, not answering the occupation question. I don't think 教えます work well for the current occupation.
 

Thank you. I'm comforted by your answer. (If you can't think of one, there's no reason to think I should be able to think of one!)
 
I'm a bit lost at the moment. I always thought it was OK to say, for example, 山田さんは日本語を教える (Yamada-san teaches English), or 山田さんは日本語の教師です (Yamada-san is a Japanese teacher). I understand why it's OK to use -ている to talk about one's current occupation but I don't understand why it isn't correct to use -います. Wouldn't it be stating a fact that I teach Eng?

Another doubt I have about the -て form in general is the difference my textbook makes a difference between three kinds of verbs in reference to the use of いる.
  • verbs that describe continuous states
  • verbs that describe activities that last for some time. Here いる implies an action in progress.
  • verbs that describe changes that are more or less instantaneous. Here いる indicates the result of the change.
The book says I should ask myself if it's logical to say things such as 昨日は1時間買っています to know if it belongs to the second or third group.

In this case I think it doesn't make much sense, as buying is something almost instantaneous, which changes a person's state from not having something to having something, so I think it would be in the third group, implying that the ている form would state the result of the action.

But on the other hand, I think it would make sense to answer 食べ物を買っています。 to the question あなたはどこですか。, implying that the ている form would state an action in progress. Is there anywhere I can check to know if a verb is one or another kind, to double-check I got it right?

Hope it all makes sense
 
The present form of action verbs CAN'T express the present action. This is a fundamental principle.

This is wrong. 買う actually belongs to the second group; 継続動詞(durative verbs).
買う is not a good example since 買っている is usually not used for "to be doing the shopping". Instead, 買い物(を)している is more commonly used.

昨日は1時間買い物をした/していた。
おとといは10時から12時まで買い物をした/していた。
今デパートで買い物をしている。
 
How about 買いに行っています? (alternatively: スーパーなう. I'm very sorry. I'll let myself out, shall I?)

買っている → よく行くお店? (豆腐は近所のお店で買っています )

I personally have never seen 継続動詞 etc. marked in a dictionary. Are these terms commonly used or is it more a linguistics thing?
 
I found this paper on the topic: http://faculty.washington.edu/ogihara/papers/Ogihara_teiru.pdf which uses the terms stative, durative, instantaneous and a fourth category (p. 11-12). I'm guessing the use of those terms is academical, as my textbook uses much more layman terms (continuous states, activities, instantaneous changes)

I personally have never seen 継続動詞 etc. marked in a dictionary.
So there isn't a reference book you can go to if you want to check to which of those 3 groups a verb belongs?

PS: thanks for your answer Toritoribe-san
 
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I don't know of one, maybe one exists. (I was taught the general concepts, but I don't recall ever looking the categories up).

Where does something like 落ちる go? Can't that mean either? (context dependant - falling, or fallen).
 
How about 買いに行っています?
As same as 行っています, 買いに行っています can express 1)present habit, 2)different agents do that repeatedly or 3)on-going action.
1)
最近は週末になると隣町のスーパーまで特売品を買いに行っています。
2)
若者たちがひっきりなしにあの店に買いに行っています。
3)
今父はコンビニにタバコを買いに行っています。

買っている → よく行くお店? (豆腐は近所のお店で買っています )
買っている is used only for #1(not only for frequent shopping places) and #2. 買っているところです is used for #3.
e.g.
月に一度くらいしか行けませんが、バウムクーヘンだけはあの店で買っています。
子供たちがどんどん買っています。

I personally have never seen 継続動詞 etc. marked in a dictionary. Are these terms commonly used or is it more a linguistics thing?
状態動詞, 継続動詞 or 瞬間動詞 are technical terms basically only used in linguistics. Non-native learners would be more familiar with this concept of classification than native Japanese speakers.

Where does something like 落ちる go? Can't that mean either? (context dependant - falling, or fallen).
That's right. Probably this is one of reasons that dictionaries don't have this classification for each verb.
 
As same as 行っています, 買いに行っています can express 1)present habit, 2)different agents do that repeatedly or 3)on-going action.

I'm a bit confused with this Toritoribe-san. My textbook says that 行く belongs to the third group, instantaneous verbs, and 行っています indicates the result of a change, not on-going action. Is my textbook wrong? Or maybe just a bit limited?
 
The -te iru form of 瞬間動詞 can express on-going action. As for my example 今父はコンビニにタバコを買いに行っています。, this can be an answer when being asked "where is your father?", and describes his/her father is somewhere in the process of the action; he might be on the way to a convenience store, might be in a convenience store now or might be on the way back to home. The questioner never thinks that the answerer is talking about his/her father's present habit unlike 去年高校を卒業して今大学に行っています or his/her father's trip (e.g. he went to a convenience store and is staying there for a week) unlike 今アメリカに行っています. In conclusion, the context and/or temporal adverbs (今, 毎日, よく, 時々,,,) are the key of the meaning.

Not all 瞬間動詞 have this usage. 死んでいる or 窓が開[あ]いている can't express on-going action, for instance.
 
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