Exercises in Genki

Toritoribe. Aplogies. I looked for the edit before but could not find it.

5)あなたのかばんは新しいですか。
6)あなたの部屋は小さいですか。/あなたの部屋はきれいですか。
7)あなたのせんせいはやさしいですか。

Re EDIT2. Helped me to understand. に is similar to は. It introduces (but without creating a topic) and indeed as Genki! says 'has many uses'.
 
私に漢字を教えてください。 (Watashi ni Kanji o oshiete kudasai.)

'Direct towards me, your kanji teachings please.' is correct 'As for me, teach kanji please.' is not. I understand.

SD,

Some people always translate the は (wa) particle into English as "As for..." This is an easy way to understand how to use は, but it is only a crutch. See if you can get to the point where you don't need to use this technique. The correct translation is

私に漢字を教えてください = Please teach me Chinese characters.

Here are two examples of は and が (ga) particles appearing in the same sentence.

(1) 私痛いです。(Watashi wa atama ga itai desu.)

(2) 私お中空いています。(Watashi wa onaga ga suiteimasu.)

Let's look at both of these examples translated into English using "As for...".

(1) As for me, my head hurts.

(2) As for me, my stomach is empty.

These are woefully inadequate translations. The correct translations would be

(1) I have a headache.

(2) I'm hungry.


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"Direct towards me..."

--> There is no need to translate the particle に (ni) into "Direct towards me...". に is merely a post-positional that points to the indirect object "me". So the idea here is "to me" as in "Please teach Chinese characters to me" or "Please teach me Chinese characters".
 
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Here are two examples of は and が (ga) particles appearing in the same sentence.

(1) 私痛いです。(Watashi wa atama ga itai desu.)

(2) 私お中空いています。(Watashi wa onaga ga suiteimasu.)

Let's look at both of these examples translated into English using "As for...".

(1) As for me, my head hurts.

(2) As for me, my stomach is empty.

These are woefully inadequate translations. The correct translations would be

(1) I have a headache.

(2) I'm hungry.
Thanks for the lesson Buntaro. I will not make a habit of translating japanese into odd looking english. "My stomach is empty." maintains some of the words used in the japanese but for who's benefit? Any 英語の学生 should learn hunger/hungry so they can understand and manufacture natural sounding english. I will bear this in mind when posting. ありがとうございますBentaro.
 
5)あなたのかばんは新しいですか。
6)あなたの部屋は小さいですか。/あなたの部屋はきれいですか。
7)あなたのせんせいはやさしいですか。
Perfect.

Re EDIT2. Helped me to understand. に is similar to は. It introduces (but without creating a topic)
Not really. に indicates the location where the speaker saw an image of movie/movie-like image in 京都に映画を見ました, similar to 姉の微笑みに母の面影を見た "I saw my mother in my sister's smile" or 見知らぬ風景に故郷を感じた "I felt like in my hometown in an unfamiliar scene".
 
SD,

You said,

"Re EDIT2. Helped me to understand. に is similar to は. It introduces (but without creating a topic)"

--> I'm not sure what you mean. Can you give us some examples?

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I thought I'd show you an example of は…が… that may be confusing. It has to do with asking "what kind of…?" Let's say we want to ask in Japanese, "What kind of coffee do you like?" Although there is a phrase for "what kind of" in Japanese, it is not used in the Japanese equivalent of this English question. Instead, we ask,

コーヒーは何が好きですか?
Ko-hi- wa nani ga suki desu ka?

To an English speaker, this sounds like an odd way to ask, "what kind of coffee", but は is used to designate the topic of the question, and allow us to ask "what kind of coffee do you like?" in Japanese in this way.
 
Hirashin said:
a) 私の本を返してください。
b) 私の本は返してください。

(a) and (b) are a little different in meaning.

Buntaro said:

Sensei!

What is the difference in meaning?

well...It's really hard for me to explain it in English.
(b) is insinuating that the speaker does not care about things
other than "my book". Does this make sense?
 
SD,

You said,

"Re EDIT2. Helped me to understand. に is similar to は. It introduces (but without creating a topic)"

--> I'm not sure what you mean. Can you give us some examples?

Take noun は noun に 行きます

は introduces a noun, the topic. に also introduces a noun but does not introduce the topic. に also indicates direct/indirect involvement in an action. As I saw に being used in different sentences this became clear to me. A bit dense of me to point out the obvious, I will check in the mirror I do not have an antenna. I will try to be more structured and productive with any future observations.

6 I C

8. Please speak slowly.
ゆっくり話してください。

9. Please come with me.
私といてください。いて
This had me stumped so I listened to the audio of the answer. As i predicted と and 行く. However google keyboard godan input did not offer 行て as i would have expected.

10. Please call me tomorrow. 私に明日電話をかけてください。

11Please bring your freind.
あなたの友だちを連れてくてください。
 
I thought I'd show you an example of は…が… that may be confusing. It has to do with asking "what kind of…?" Let's say we want to ask in Japanese, "What kind of coffee do you like?" Although there is a phrase for "what kind of" in Japanese, it is not used in the Japanese equivalent of this English question. Instead, we ask,

コーヒーは何が好きですか?
Ko-hi- wa nani ga suki desu ka?

To an English speaker, this sounds like an odd way to ask, "what kind of coffee", but は is used to designate the topic of the question, and allow us to ask "what kind of coffee do you like?" in Japanese in this way.
The sentences like 私は頭が痛いです。 or 私はお腹が空いています。 are called は・が文 "wa ga sentence" in Japanese grammar. は indicates the subject, and the rest is an explanation about the subject in this sentence construction. Also, the two nouns preceding は and が have a specific relation. The noun preceding が is a body part, property, a family member, etc of the one preceding は.
e.g.
象は鼻が長いです。
Elephants have a long nose.

彼はお父さんが先生です。
His father is a teacher.

"Noun A は Noun B が~" is often rephrased as "Noun A の Noun B は~" in this case.
e.g.
象の鼻は長いです。
彼のお父さんは先生です。

Also, 私はコーヒーが好きです。 is another type of は・が文. The predicate is an adjective or stative verb (e.g. ある, いる, できる, 要る), and が indicates the object in this case.
e.g.
彼は音楽が好きです。
He likes music.

彼女は料理ができます。
She can cook well.

However, コーヒーは何が好きですか? doesn't belong to は・が文. in this question, コーヒーは is the topicalization of コーヒーで. で is disappeared behind は. In fact, it can be rephrased as コーヒーでは何が好きですか?, and で appears in an answer コーヒーで好きなのはモカです. (Incidentally, が and を are always disappeared behind は when it's topicalized, but other particles can be used with は, e.g., には, へは, からは, よりは, とは.)

This で indicates "range/area".
e.g.
彼はクラスで一番背が高いです。
He is tallest in our class.

映画で一番好きなのはロードオブザリングです。
The movie I like best is The Lord of the Rings.

What is the difference in meaning?
Let me add some supplements.
は works as a contrastive marker there, so 私の本は返してください。 implies that "you don't need to return other people's book(s), but please return my book" or "you don't need to return other things than my book, but please return my book". "My book" and "other people's book(s)" or "other things" are in contrast.

は introduces a noun, the topic. に also introduces a noun but does not introduce the topic.
I think the word "introduce" made confusion. As you might already know, に, が, を, へ, から, と, etc. are called "case particle" (格助詞) in Japanese grammar. Case particles are mostly attached to nouns, but は can be attached to other particles, adverbs or conjugation forms of verbs or adjectives other than nouns. To indicate the topic is not the only one function of は, as same as に has many functions.
e.g.
彼とは話さなかった
いつもは行かない
食べはしない
高くはない

8. Please speak slowly.
ゆっくり話してください。
Correct.

9. Please come with me.
私といてください。いて
This had me stumped so I listened to the audio of the answer. As i predicted と and 行く. However google keyboard godan input did not offer 行て as i would have expected.
That's because the -te form of 行く is not 行て. Try again. (Incidentally, "to come" also can be translated as 来る depending on the context.)

10. Please call me tomorrow. 私に明日電話をかけてください。
Correct. The word order 明日私に電話をかけてください。 sounds more natural, though.

11Please bring your freind.
あなたの友だちを連れてくてください。
Check again what the -te form of 来る is.
 
well...It's really hard for me to explain it in English.
(b) is insinuating that the speaker does not care about things
other than "my book". Does this make sense?
I will give it my best.

(a) Sounds like a description of the whole act phrased in a polite manner.
(b) は introduces the topic first and in isolation. In this case making the second part of the sentence seem neither here nor there.

I have two thoughts on は I wish to share.
1) For more complex sentences, は is a very useful tool to simplify grammer. This is the purpose of は. At my level I do not know how to use は.

2) I imagine a short pause after は this gives time for the mind to register the topic. Also は could be marker for the topic to be addressed later. Here the sentence is divided in two.

I hope my analysis is not headache inducing for native japnese speakers. Thankyou for the lesson Hirashin your examples are helping me along.
 
Toritoribe,

Thanks for the explanation.

SD,

Earlier you wrote 英語の学生. There are two words for "student" in Japanese:

学生 (がくせい) (gakusei)

生徒 (せいと) (seito)

学生 refers to a student who is matriculating at a school. 生徒 refers to anyone studying anything anywhere. So you may wish to refer to yourself as 日本語の生徒.
 
Regarding these four examples, can you give us the corresponding English meanings?

4.私を見てください。
5.教科書にもってくてください。
6.私は漢字を教えてください。
7.私の本は返してください。
4.Please look at me.
5.持つ-hold 来る-come. Please bring the textbook.
6.Please teach me kanji.
7. Please return my book.

Thanks Bentaro. In the next couple of days I will look at the list of grammer words from your previous post. Post positional makes sense. Grammer ( the language of ) no doubt will help a students progress. I will report.
 
That's because the -te form of 行く is not 行て. Try again. (Incidentally, "to come" also can be translated as 来る depending on the context.)

Correct. The word order 明日私に電話をかけてください。 sounds more natural, though.

Check again what the -te form of 来る is
The -te form of 行く is 行って. An exeption easily remembered.

あなたの友達は連れてきてください。Thank you. I will not make the same mistake again.
 
I moved our posts since we are not talking about the previous thread title "Would you like to talk at a coffee shop?" anymore.

The -te form of 行く is 行って. An exeption easily remembered.
Correct.

あなたの友達は連れてきてください。Thank you. I will not make the same mistake again.
きて is correct, but is there a reason why you changed あなたの友達 to あなたの友達? These two sentences are different in nuance or used in different contexts, as same as 私の本返してください。vs. 私の本返してください。.


I will give it my best.

(a) Sounds like a description of the whole act phrased in a polite manner.
(b) は introduces the topic first and in isolation. In this case making the second part of the sentence seem neither here nor there.

I have two thoughts on は I wish to share.
1) For more complex sentences, は is a very useful tool to simplify grammer. This is the purpose of は. At my level I do not know how to use は.

2) I imagine a short pause after は this gives time for the mind to register the topic. Also は could be marker for the topic to be addressed later. Here the sentence is divided in two.
Here's a thread about は・が thing. This is a bit long, but still just a summary.

Judging from your explanation, you seem to misunderstand the function of は, similar to the OP of the thread I linked above ("wa" is ungrammatical, it is just there to give some context so that it's clear which person/thing the whole statement is about.) or a member of this forum I mentioned there (he is the one who thought the topic was something out of the sentence like you.).

Note that は・が thing is one of the hardest things in Japanese grammar to grasp for non-native learners, as I wrote there. If you can't read through the thread to the end, including other threads and sites linked in the thread, that means it's still too advanced for you. Indeed baby step. You will get it gradually, but remember at least that は・が thing is not so simple.
 
7.私の本は返してください。

7. Please return my book.

SD,

When I was learning Japanese, I learned that 私の本返してください was a mistake and 私の本返してください was correct. But let's see what Hirashin and Toritoribe say.

 
きて is correct, but is there a reason why you changed あなたの友達 to あなたの友達? These two sentences are different in nuance or used in different contexts, as same as 私の本返してください。vs. 私の本返してください。.
Thanks for picking up on the mistake. It was not thinking that caused this. I will try harder.

Note that は・が thing is one of the hardest things in Japanese grammar to grasp for non-native learners, as I wrote there. If you can't read through the thread to the end, including other threads and sites linked in the thread, that means it's still too advanced for you. Indeed baby step. You will get it gradually, but remember at least that は・が thing is not so simple.
Ok. I feel embarassed at my observations and apologise for subjecting people to mistaken ideas. A baby that tries to run falls flat on its face.
 
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1)電気お消してください。
2)へやおはいってください。
3)いすを座ってください。
4)
A:私の買い物を持ってください。
B:はい。
5)窓おしめてください。

6 II A
6)音楽を聞いてもいいですか。
May I listen to music?
7)夜、出かけてもいいですか。
May I go out this evening?
8)パソコンを使ってもいいですか。
May I use the computer?
9)自転車をかりてもいいですか。
May I return the bicycle?

6 II B
1)
Excuse me Sir. Can I go to the toilet?
先生、僕はトイレに行ってもいいですか。
2)
Sir, I feel sick. I think I need to go home. Can I be excused from class?
先生、私は病気です。家に帰ってもいいですか。
3)
Sorry I forgot my homework. Can I bring it tomorrow?
すみません、私の宿題を忘れました。明日持ってきてもいいですか。
4)Mrs. I have a question (but I am unable to phrase it in japanese) can I speak english.
先生、質問があります。英語を話してもいいですか。
I struggled to find the language here for 'difficult to say in japanese' perhaps 質問は 難しい日本語です。

5)Excuse me can I take your picture.
すみません、写真を撮ってもいいですか。
6)Please turn on the light. I feel uncomfortable.
電気をつけてもいいですか。暗い部屋は怖いです。

6 IV A
1)Turning off the TV and going out.
テレビを消して、出かけます。
2)Eat and go to the toilet.
食べて、トイレに行きます。
 
1)電気お消してください。
2)へやおはいってください。
3)いすを座ってください。
4)
A:私の買い物を持ってください。
B:はい。
5)窓おしめてください。
1) 5)
Simple typos. The particle "o" is not お.

2) 3)
Particles are wrong.

4)
The conversation is correct. However, I think the man worries about time, and she answers to it.

6 II A
6)音楽を聞いてもいいですか。
May I listen to music?
7)夜、出かけてもいいですか。
May I go out this evening?
8)パソコンを使ってもいいですか。
May I use the computer?
9)自転車をかりてもいいですか。
May I return the bicycle?
9)
You mistranslated かりる. Check it again.

The rest are OK.

6 II B
1)
Excuse me Sir. Can I go to the toilet?
先生、僕はトイレに行ってもいいですか。
2)
Sir, I feel sick. I think I need to go home. Can I be excused from class?
先生、私は病気です。家に帰ってもいいですか。
3)
Sorry I forgot my homework. Can I bring it tomorrow?
すみません、私の宿題を忘れました。明日持ってきてもいいですか。
4)Mrs. I have a question (but I am unable to phrase it in japanese) can I speak english.
先生、質問があります。英語を話してもいいですか。
I struggled to find the language here for 'difficult to say in japanese' perhaps 質問は 難しい日本語です。
1)
You don't need to say 僕は since it's obvious from the context.

2)
Not wrong, but I would say 具合が悪い for "to feel sick".

3)
私の is unnecessary also here.

4)
英語を話す is not wrong, but the particle で is used for "to say something in English (or any languages)". So, "but I am unable to phrase it in Japanese" is でも日本語で言えません.

5)Excuse me can I take your picture.
すみません、写真を撮ってもいいですか。
6)Please turn on the light. I feel uncomfortable.
電気をつけてもいいですか。暗い部屋は怖いです。
5)
Correct.

6)
つけてもいいですか。 is a form to ask permission, thus, the agent (the one who turns on the light) is the speaker. You need to use another expression.

6 IV A
1)Turning off the TV and going out.
テレビを消して、出かけます。
2)Eat and go to the toilet.
食べて、トイレに行きます。
OK.
 
1)電気を消してください。
2)へやにはいてください。
3)いすにすわってください。
4)
A: Please hurry.
B: I had better hurry.
A: 急いでください。
B:はい、すみません。
9)自転車に借りてください。
Can I borrow the bicycle.

6 II B
2)先生、私は具合が悪いです。家に帰ってもいいですか。

)
英語を話す is not wrong, but the particle で is used for "to say something in English (or any languages)". So, "but I am unable to phrase it in Japanese" is でも日本語で言えません.
で I understand from Bentaro's teachings to mean 'within the bounds of' (a language in this case). ありがとうToritoribe.
先生、質問があります、でも日本語で言えません。英語で話してもいいですか。

6 II B
6. You and your friend are in a dark room, and you feel somewhat uncomfortable.
電気を付けてください。部屋は怖い。

Thanks again for the corrections.
 
6 IV B

The example is in present tense.
朝起きて、新聞を読みます。
When I wake up in the morning I read a newspaper.
1)友だちのうちに行って、ゲームをしました。
I went to my freinds house and played computer games.
2)うちに帰って、勉強しました。
When I got home I studied.
3)電気を降りて、音楽を聞きます。
I dim the lights when I listen to music.
4)友達に会って、喫茶店でお茶を飲みました。
I met with my friend and drank tea at a coffe shop.
5)おふるに入って、休みました。
I had a rest in the bath.
6)大学に行って、ホームルームにいきます。
When I arrive at school I go to the homeroom.
 
SD,

The thing that jumps out at about your post is your use of the word "when".

"When I wake up…"

"When I got home…"

Are you sure you want to put the idea of "when" into these sentences?

That being said, let's look at your sentence 6). I think the Japanese sentence is difficult to render into English. I would describe your translation as a 'free translation', and I think your use of "when" works well in this example.

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By the way, I see you are 'flying' the British flag. You used the phrase "had a rest". Do you speak British English? Is it common to use the phrase "have a rest" in British English? (The use of this phrase has come up in my English classes, It seems a little odd to me, and I wonder if its 'oddness' is due to it being a piece of British English that I am not familiar with.)
 
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1)電気を消してください。
2)へやにはいてください。
3)いすにすわってください。
4)
A: Please hurry.
B: I had better hurry.
A: 急いでください。
B:はい、すみません。
9)自転車に借りてください。
Can I borrow the bicycle.
2)
The particle に is correct, but you did another typo here. It's はいてください.

9)
Yes, 借りる means "to borrow", but the particle に is wrong.

The rest are OK.

で I understand from Bentaro's teachings to mean 'within the bounds of' (a language in this case). ありがとうToritoribe.
先生、質問があります、でも日本語で言えません。英語で話してもいいですか。
Your translation is correct,

As I mentioned previously, particles have many functions. To indicate the location of action is not the only one function of で. Notice that 日本語 is not a location in 日本語で言う. で indicates the means to do the action in this case.
other examples of the means
ペンで漢字を書く
to write kanji by pen

バスで学校に行く
to go to school by bus

はさみで紙を切る
to cut paper with scissors

6. You and your friend are in a dark room, and you feel somewhat uncomfortable.
電気を付けてください。部屋は怖い。
The form ~てください is correct for "please ~", but the kanji 点ける is used for 電気をつける "to turn on the light". Since this reading of 点ける is out of Joyo kanji, hiragana つける is often used for this meaning. The kanji 電気を付ける would be misinterpreted as "to install a lighting fixture", not "to turn on the light".


The example is in present tense.
朝起きて、新聞を読みます。
When I wake up in the morning I read a newspaper.
1)友だちのうちに行って、ゲームをしました。
I went to my freinds house and played computer games.
2)うちに帰って、勉強しました。
When I got home I studied.
3)電気を降りて、音楽を聞きます。
I dim the lights when I listen to music.
4)友達に会って、喫茶店でお茶を飲みました。
I met with my friend and drank tea at a coffe shop.
5)おふるに入って、休みました。
I had a rest in the bath.
6)大学に行って、ホームルームにいきます。
When I arrive at school I go to the homeroom.
As in the explanation in the section 5 "Describing Two Activities", -te form means "I did/will do this and then I did/will do that" there.

3)
Check the kanji right after 電 again. You misread it. Also, there must be furigana there.

5)
simple typo: おふ, not おふる
 
Are you sure you want to put the idea of "when" into these sentences?
I copied this from a dictionary for when.

1a: at or during the time that.
He went fishing when he was a boy

b: just at the moment that.
stop writing when the bell rings

c: at any or every time that.
when he listens to music, he falls asleep

When is used in the blue highlited sense in spoken language.

"When I wake up in the morning I read a newspaper." does sound a little odd. It should have been "I read a newspaper most mornings/every morning".

"When I got home I studied." is lazily spoken english.

Prosecution lawyer: Then what happend?
Defendant: After returning home I studied.
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This, more descriptive, english is better. I did not notice I was writing in 'the common tounge' so thanks for telling me my examples were off sounding. We joke about 'talking proper' ( which of course should be 'talking properly').

Is it common to use the phrase "have a rest"
'I had a rest in the bath' should be 'I relaxed in the bath'. I think most people would approve of this change because the latter is more grammatical.

'I stopped to have a rest' is a commonly used phrase and is used in formal speech. Is it an example of slang entering into common usage? I would like an english language students opinion on that.
 
2)
The particle に is correct, but you did another typo here. It's はいてください.

9)
Yes, 借りる means "to borrow", but the particle に is wrong.
Mistakes in my corrected efforts. ouch.
2)へやははいってください。
9) 自転車を借りてください。

As I mentioned previously, particles have many functions. To indicate the location of action is not the only one function of で. Notice that 日本語 is not a location in 日本語で言う. で indicates the means to do the action in this case.
other examples of the means
ペンで漢字を書く
to write kanji by pen

バスで学校に行く
to go to school by bus

はさみで紙を切る
to cut paper with scissors

The form ~てください is correct for "please ~", but the kanji 点ける is used for 電気をつける "to turn on the light". Since this reading of 点ける is out of Joyo kanji, hiragana つける is often used for this meaning. The kanji 電気を付ける would be misinterpreted as "to install a lighting fixture", not "to turn on the light".
Thankyou for the clear explanation of means.
つける. Indeed Genki provides no kanji.

As in the explanation in the section 5 "Describing Two Activities", -te form means "I did/will do this and then I did/will do that" there.

3)
Check the kanji right after 電 again. You misread it. Also, there must be furigana there.


3)電車を降りて、うちに帰ります。
I am going to get off the train and return home. An 'in the present' example. I will do this then that. Thank you very much for pointing this out. Improved versions of my translations can be found in the first half of this double post.
 
SD,

I mentioned the word "when" because it has a corresponding word in Japanese, 時 (とき) (toki). Compare these sentences:

I wake up in the morning and read a newspaper.
朝起きて、新聞を読みます。
Asa okite, shinbun o yomimasu.

I read a newspaper when I wake up in the morning.
朝起きる、新聞を読みます。
Asa okiru toki, shimbun o yomimasu.

I go home and study.
家に帰って、勉強します。
Ie ni kaette, benkyō shimasu.

I study when I am at home.
家にいる、勉強します。
Ie ni iru toki, benkyō shimasu.

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"'I stopped to have a rest' is a commonly used phrase and is used in formal speech. Is it an example of slang entering into common usage?"

--> No, it is not slang. Here the word "to" is the same as "in order to". This word in Japanese is 為 (ため) (tame). Here is your example:

I stopped and rested.
止まって、休みました。
Tomatte, yasumimashita.

I stopped (in order) to have a rest.
休む為に止まりました。
Yasumu tame ni tomarimashita.

Another example:

He went to the store and bought some milk.
彼は店へ行って、牛乳を買いました。
Kare wa mise e itte, gyūnyū o kaimashita.

He went to the store (in order) to buy some milk.
彼は牛乳を買う為に店へ行きました。
Kare wa gyūnyū o kau tame ni mise e ikimashita.

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By the way, I asked about the phrase 'have a rest' because Asian students, especially Chinese students, use it very often. This phrase is not used in American English. Now I know where this phrase comes from!

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"When I got home I studied." is lazily spoken english."

--> I do not think it is is lazily spoken English. It is perfectly acceptable to change word order when we want to emphasize a particular word:

(a) I eat when I'm hungry.

(b) When I'm hungry, I eat.

Example (a) is standard English word order. In example (b), the word order is changed because the speaker wants to emphasize the idea, "when I'm hungry…" Both are examples of good English and have different meanings.

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One of the benefits of learning Japanese grammar is learning English grammar too!
 
One of the benefits of learning Japanese grammar is learning English grammar too!
First, thanks for 時 and 為. Genki has introduced toki in 子供の時. I am able to grasp ため as it is similar to describing two activities using the -te form.

I will treat myself to an english language textbook after i finish Genki.
 
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