jellofish 後輩 Joined 20 Feb 2010 Messages 64 Reaction score 0 17 Jul 2011 #1 I often see people change a 動詞 into 名詞 and add する, for example, 雨が止んでいる⇒雨が止みしている is there a particular reason why people would do this Thank you very much.
I often see people change a 動詞 into 名詞 and add する, for example, 雨が止んでいる⇒雨が止みしている is there a particular reason why people would do this Thank you very much.
Mike Cash 骨も命も皆此の土地に埋めよう Twenty-year veteran Joined 15 Mar 2002 Messages 16,758 Reaction score 2,298 17 Jul 2011 #2 Where are you seeing that sort of thing? I'm sitting here trying very hard to think if I've ever encountered anything like that, and I can't come up with anything.
Where are you seeing that sort of thing? I'm sitting here trying very hard to think if I've ever encountered anything like that, and I can't come up with anything.
jellofish 後輩 Joined 20 Feb 2010 Messages 64 Reaction score 0 17 Jul 2011 Thread starter #3 One example I often see is: 引越しする where 引越し is a noun + する http://www.city.koshu.yamanashi.jp/koshu_wdm/html/life-1/05441603860.html However, 引っ越す is also a verb so i wonder what is the difference between 引越しする and 引っ越す
One example I often see is: 引越しする where 引越し is a noun + する http://www.city.koshu.yamanashi.jp/koshu_wdm/html/life-1/05441603860.html However, 引っ越す is also a verb so i wonder what is the difference between 引越しする and 引っ越す
Mike Cash 骨も命も皆此の土地に埋めよう Twenty-year veteran Joined 15 Mar 2002 Messages 16,758 Reaction score 2,298 17 Jul 2011 #4 For all practical purposes....no difference at all as far as I know. I'm familiar with that one, and as you say it is very common. But where are you seeing things like 雨が止みしている ?
For all practical purposes....no difference at all as far as I know. I'm familiar with that one, and as you say it is very common. But where are you seeing things like 雨が止みしている ?
jellofish 後輩 Joined 20 Feb 2010 Messages 64 Reaction score 0 18 Jul 2011 Thread starter #5 Mike Cash said: For all practical purposes....no difference at all as far as I know. I'm familiar with that one, and as you say it is very common. But where are you seeing things like 雨が止みしている ? Click to expand... For 雨が止みしている , it appears as 今日は一日中、雨が降っては止み、降っては止みしてい る。 as well as お正月は食っては寝、食っては寝していた。
Mike Cash said: For all practical purposes....no difference at all as far as I know. I'm familiar with that one, and as you say it is very common. But where are you seeing things like 雨が止みしている ? Click to expand... For 雨が止みしている , it appears as 今日は一日中、雨が降っては止み、降っては止みしてい る。 as well as お正月は食っては寝、食っては寝していた。
Mike Cash 骨も命も皆此の土地に埋めよう Twenty-year veteran Joined 15 Mar 2002 Messages 16,758 Reaction score 2,298 18 Jul 2011 #6 Ah, that clears things up a bit. That is a sort of idiomatic construction. Notice that two actions which alternate back-n-forth are being described? Try to consider it as: 今日は一日中、雨が [降っては止み、降っては止み] (を) している。 You would never see 雨がやんでいる rendered as 雨が止みしている (At least I would be extraordinarily surprised if you did).
Ah, that clears things up a bit. That is a sort of idiomatic construction. Notice that two actions which alternate back-n-forth are being described? Try to consider it as: 今日は一日中、雨が [降っては止み、降っては止み] (を) している。 You would never see 雨がやんでいる rendered as 雨が止みしている (At least I would be extraordinarily surprised if you did).