Tokyo infested with rapists?

[thomas]

Exactly, and not only in Japan! Besides, a lot of rapes and sexual assaults take place among family members and are classified as "domestic violence".

 

[Maciamo]

Originally posted by thomas
Exactly, and not only in Japan! Besides, a lot of rapes and sexual assaults take place among family members and are classified as "domestic violence".

Waw, I didn't know that. So do you mean it's not punishable for a father to rape his daughter or something like that ?

 

[thomas]

Of course it's punishable, but often considered "family business", thus not reported. What I wanted to imply is that the estimated number of unreported cases of family-related sexual offences is much higher than in other sexual crimes.

 

[arnadstephen]

Tokoyo Infested

These ideas,
----> Many rapes n-o-t reported
-----> Rapes, many are between people related

Thats probably true in most societies !!


I still agree with below
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Skyrocketed ? Give me a break ! What are 168 rapes compared to a population of 12 millions or more than 30 millions if you take the "greater Tokyo
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stephen-florida

 

[kinjo]

unreported cases of family-related sexual offences is much higher than in other sexual crimes.

WOW thats a frightening thought!

 

[moyashi]

a good delicious bowl of hot ramen VS. family affairs

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[jEsteR_bOy]

I say more women should carry around pepper sprays and laser guns...Or else change the color of their curtains (hehe).

 

[godppgo]

Also have to take into account that Japanese women are less likely to come forward to report a rape crime compared to western countries. So the actual number should be somewhat higher than the reported number.

 

[denmaakujindesu]

Well, that confirms my first impression. There is only 1,78 rapes/100.000 inhabitants in Japan, twice less than the second in the list, Spain (that might surprises some people). The US has a record 32,05/100.000 inhabitants. That's 20 times more than Japan ! Worse is that the US have a very low rate of cases solved. The funniest thing is that the Mainichi Shimbun's articles are probably written by... Americans !
What I don't understand is that the US have 90.190 cases and Japan 2.260 for half the total population. So the proportion of cases (with attempts ?) are actually 45 times higher in the States (not 20 times). France alone has 4 times more cases of rapes than Japan for less than half the population.
I think the reason of low rape rate in Japan is that men have easy access to payed sex. Just have a walk aroud Shinjuku Kabuki-cho the evening and you'll understand what I mean. There are more soaplands, "massage parlours", etc per sq.m. than in the hottest districts of Bangkok (though Japanese sex trade doesn't usually involved penetration). What's more, Japan has a quite unique phenomenon of free-willing teenage prostitution (called enjo kosai). A salaryman in need just have to contact a terekura (telephone club) and get a blind meeting with a girl. These girls want to make easy money and give themself with a stupefying nonchalance for about 20.000 yen. So are rapes for the poor only ?
Note that in some American States, prostitution is illegal and fought actively by the police. It all seems so easy and candid in Japan. And it might well be the solution for all those men who can't find a outlet to their libido.

A lot this difference has already been theoretizised about in many books concerning Japanese society and how group mentality works over there. You must also consider that the police in Japan has a kind of friendly control over people. There are many police boxes in all Japanese cities and most citizens get a visit from these police guys. It is a measure that makes the police aware of what is going on, and people literally have a harder time socially if they are discovered doing a crime in Japan.
In america (or here in Denmark) this sort of control isnt there. And we have an individual way of life and are more free to commit crimes.
In Japan many crimes are solved simply because the criminals often turn themselves in to the police.

 

[Han Chan]

Dear Denmarkujindesu
You are new here! Welcome from another denmarkujin
Rape is an act of violence rather than a sexual act. I do not find the young people in Japan any less individualistic than Scandinavians. I find that the stereotype regarding the group behavior have been created by americans who might have found this behaviour very exotic. Actually the typical group behaviour you find at danish workplaces are quite similar to what you find in Japan. I have Danish and Japanese friends who have experienced problems fitting into american somewhat "militaristic top-down" decision-making process.

I recommend you to try to experience Japan with open eyes and mind, and take the stereotypes you can read here and other places - as stereotypes and not the truth. One odd thing is that japanese people often repeat the stereotypes created by gaijin. One of the facinating things about the japanese society is actually the diversity you find. Group oriented and individualistic; traditional and modern; old and young; rural and urban; you will find it all - and my adwise is to create your own image based on your own experiences.

 

[yamada]

Definitely no that alot of rapes and sexual assaults take place among family members.

 

[beautastic]

These ideas,
----> Many rapes n-o-t reported
-----> Rapes, many are between people related
Thats probably true in most societies !!

I agree. I think that violence and what-not, unfortunatly stays true throughout all cultures. =/ A sad but very true fact.

 

[roninjapan]

Agree

Skyrocketed ? Give me a break ! What are 168 rapes compared to a population of 12 millions or more than 30 millions if you take the "greater Tokyo" (with Saitama, Chiba and Kanagawa-ken). These figures are way lower to Western ones. I guess there are more murders in just one big American city during the same period. That's really excessive alarmism. What is more preoccupying is what the juridical system actually make with rapists. In macho (chauvinist, if you prefer) Japan, a rapist is unlikely to get a harsh sentence. Most don't even go to jail, just a fine and that's it. That's of course completely different if the rapist is an American GI in Okinawa, even more if he is black (national scandal !). Well that's another issue.

I agree with you.Japan is really safe if we compare to others countrys.I feel safe here more than my country.

 

[urami]

this people should not exist

one boy told me, that they diserve to be dead, maybe he is a little bad but he could be right

 

[w1ngzer0]

i think it has to do with a loss of family values. Puting work before family screws you up bad.

 

[Thuglife]

Rape is underreported or not reported.

7 months ago the Fukuoka police arrested a man they believed committed 4 rapes. I turns out he RAPED OVER 90!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes.....90

And I never heard about it on NHK or in print that there were 90 unsolved rapes in my area....90

1 man.....90 rapes.

Japan may be the worst of all modernized countries and it has alot to do with the way rape victims are treated.

Japanese crime stats are about as accurate as their homemade history books.

 

[pipokun]

...
Japan may be the worst of all modernized countries and it has alot to do with the way rape victims are treated.
Japanese crime stats are about as accurate as their homemade history books.

Data on reporting rate of sexual assult cases.
#3 is the date about the sexual assult
The right one is the reporting rate
Sorry the data is a bit old one, 6 years old.
It seems to me you can find any significant differences between the countries, US, UK or other modernised countries.
This is the accurate stat you may say, but Japan did not gather other data. And I don't think it is possible to write a history book which all parties would be satisfied with.

 

[Sparky]

I lived in Tokyo for 5 years and during that time I had only personally heard of about 2 rapes. During an 8th month stay in Vancouver, Canada. I personally heard of 5 rapes. Tokyo, Vancouver, New York... rape happens everywhere, I think Japan is just notorious for keeping it hidden away!

 

[pipokun]

I lived in Tokyo for 5 years and during that time I had only personally heard of about 2 rapes. During an 8th month stay in Vancouver, Canada. I personally heard of 5 rapes. Tokyo, Vancouver, New York... rape happens everywhere, I think Japan is just notorious for keeping it hidden away!

You are extremely lucky to hear the cases.
In your country, girls are taught that they should see if there is someone under the car or not. That is the great difference.

If you claim keeping the rape hidden away, just post the source.

An Asian police officer was arrested here after he wanted to molest a women. The daily life here is a bit different from the porn he watched in his country.

 

[jguticon]

Maciamo: I am sorry to say that what you say about Spain 2nd in the list is totally wrong. I don't know where have you taken that information from. I am proud to say that this is one of the safest and happiest countries in the world. And that rape happens very very ralery, we are astonished and shocked when we see it on TV. From my experience, I have lived in the UK, where I have have friends sedated, raped, abused ate at work...If any of you is a Londoner, just remember what happened in the club 'Fire',which is supposed to be a gay club.I have also lived in Denmark, where I have read in the papers that there were taxis drivers who seemed don't have nothing better to do that rape their female clients.Disgusting. So once again, I am so proud because if one day I had a daugther I would know how lucky she is because of being born in a country where women are treated so good. But we are not here to talk about our countries anyway.

 

[jguticon]

Well, that confirms my first impression. There is only 1,78 rapes/100.000 inhabitants in Japan, twice less than the second in the list, Spain (that might surprises some people). The US has a record 32,05/100.000 inhabitants. That's 20 times more than Japan ! Worse is that the US have a very low rate of cases solved. The funniest thing is that the Mainichi Shimbun's articles are probably written by... Americans !
What I don't understand is that the US have 90.190 cases and Japan 2.260 for half the total population. So the proportion of cases (with attempts ?) are actually 45 times higher in the States (not 20 times). France alone has 4 times more cases of rapes than Japan for less than half the population.
I think the reason of low rape rate in Japan is that men have easy access to payed sex. Just have a walk aroud Shinjuku Kabuki-cho the evening and you'll understand what I mean. There are more soaplands, "massage parlours", etc per sq.m. than in the hottest districts of Bangkok (though Japanese sex trade doesn't usually involved penetration). What's more, Japan has a quite unique phenomenon of free-willing teenage prostitution (called enjo kosai). A salaryman in need just have to contact a terekura (telephone club) and get a blind meeting with a girl. These girls want to make easy money and give themself with a stupefying nonchalance for about 20.000 yen. So are rapes for the poor only ?
Note that in some American States, prostitution is illegal and fought actively by the police. It all seems so easy and candid in Japan. And it might well be the solution for all those men who can't find a outlet to their libido.

I am sorry dear Maciamo, once again, as what I wrote was deleted, I say your information about Spain is 100% wrong. I have been living in others europeans countries where, admiting it or not, they have a serious problem about rapits.UK for example. I am sorry someone from tha UK may feel ofended...

 

[Liver Shot]

So are rapes for the poor only ?

What? You do realize, I hope, that rape is not for sexual gratification; it is an act of violence and domination. That's why old women and children are raped far too often... it's a crime committed by men that either hate people, hate women, or are just plain violent and want to hurt someone physically and emotionally. It has nothing to do with "getting off," which is what getting a prostitute. Your statement I highlighted is ridiculous.

 

[careless-whisper]

"In at least one case, the rapist claimed he knew he could find a young woman in an apartment because of the color of her curtains."

now thats just scary.. i know i wouldn't put anything girly ;P thats just completely horrifying though... i want to go to japan so bad but sometimes i hear these things and my mind starts coming up with scary senarios

 

[T1FF]

wow...this is really sad ><

 

[Otenba]

Well, if you do try to warn the public of potential rapists, you get branded a racist and a liar, that's why raping people and going unreported is so easy

About the "no means yes" thing.. I don't really believe in that. There may be that bashful "Iyaaaa(daaa)" that's often a reaction to unexpected compliments or invitations to go "play" and this can indeed mean "yes" or at least that she's pleased, but most people should be able to tell the difference between "Iyadaaaa *blush*" and other versions of the No-word. Generally speaking, it is never consent when the women walks away.

As for sex being a crime of violence rather than sex, that is true but not 100%. If it wasn't about sex at all, just as many men would fall victim to rape as women and a beating or other sex-less forms of violence and domination would suffice. The fact is that you can't rape anyone with your dick soft, so some sexual arrousal is needed... So I think it's both, violence and sex that makes rapists tick.

I once read somewhere, but never had it confirmed, that in Japanese jurisdiction, rape is only punishable as rape when the victim was a) female and b) struggling enough to clearly show she didn't want it. If that's true, then most things other jurisdictions call rape, would fall under consensual sex in Japan, right? I mean, some simply don't struggle for fear of being strangled but that doesn't mean they want it...
Any education on this would be appreciated.