ok so here is the run down im a united states marine my specialty is weapons, close quarter combat, and tactics simply put im a trained war fighter ive beent o iraq twice and am bout to go again i get out of the military next year and trying to find find a job that could make use of these skills its all but easy. the main good these thing will give to any company is that im tried and tested and can complete my duties in any condition regardless of time restrictions or stress levels and im very easy to train and with some tasks no training needed im already good at administrative things, and IT work its all things ive been schooled on and have had to apply in situations the main problem is that it doesnt yeild a degree in anyway all i have is a certificate from the military saying i can do these things ok well my point is any one have any clue as to how i can present these thing to a company in japan and actully get the job or atleast have a fighting chance at getting a job without a degree
i need help finding a job
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frostyg02uk
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Companies wont sponsor you without a degree. A degree says you have a set level of education. With all respect i dont even know what kind of company would want war skills. Your chance i probably below 5%. there is always a working holiday VISA that lets you stay for a year but getting a teaching job with it might be difficult and any other job without good Japanese even more so. Your best bet is to try and get a worling holiday VISA but even those are not handed out like candy
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Maybe a bodyguard ?
I'd check into an international bodyguard company. Usually the back of Soldier of Fortune magazine has a couple contacts. Traveling the world protecting rich and powerful VIPS sounds intresting.
Uncle Frank
I'd check into an international bodyguard company. Usually the back of Soldier of Fortune magazine has a couple contacts. Traveling the world protecting rich and powerful VIPS sounds intresting.
Uncle Frank
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Nor are they handed out to Americans.
Being absent marketable job skills, a degree, and (presumably) Japanese language ability.....things don't look so hot.
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There's a guy who claims to have trained US military how to get into shape. He has an exercise video out that is all the rage now, Billy's Boot Camp. I don't think he lives in Japan, though, as the video is subtitled in Japanese, and all the people sweating and grunting behind him look American. But, it's a route to consider somehow (although I can't imagine making a living at it here); however, your qualifications are a real barrier at this point.
Military experience won't help in Japan, considering they have a Self-Defense unit, and not a military that goes on the offense. Have you thought what you might be able to offer people on the military bases? Without a degree, and with only your experience above, that's about all the chance you stand of finding work here. I'm not up on SOFA status, but perhaps you could do something on base as a civilian. Look into the requirements.
Great. Wonderful. Fantastic. How much Japanese do you speak? No, seriously. But, there's that degree thing again. Look, unless you get a job on a military base, marry a Japanese, marry a fellow foreigner with a job, become a student, or study a traditional craft, you are not likely to be eligible for a job here. The traits above are indeed admirable, but you really have very little to offer employers.
Temp agencies are clogged with Japanese people who say the same thing. My wife (Japanese) had to claw her way past 200-300 other applicants to get a job. You are not going to make it past the front door with general office work as a goal.
Your competition for IT work is staggering, and they all have degrees.
To elaborate on what I wrote above...
spouse visa (if you are married to a Japanese) makes you eligible for any sort of work that an employer feels you are qualified for. Read those last 9 words VERY carefully. You need to improve your marketability.
dependent visa (if you are married to a foreigner with a job here) lets you work PT if you get special permission. Again, you get hired only if an employer thinks you have the right skills.
student visa (if you enroll in a school) also lets you work PT if you get special permission. This is probably not renewable for very long, so you need to think longer term.
cultural visa (if you study a craft, like pottery making, martial arts, ikebana, etc.) lets you work PT with special permission, but like the student visa, it has a limited lifespan. Perhaps with your military training, you might be interested in the martial arts aspect, but that means studying FULL-TIME, leaving precious little time for work. After a couple of years, what can you do to get a different sort of visa? There's that marketability thing again.
May I ask just why you feel you want to work here?
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If I were you, I'd learn how to write properly. Seems you lack that skill.
Subjunctive mood.
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If I was you, I'd learn how to write properly. Seems you lack that skill.
thanx for the correction but i wasnt looking to write properly i only cared to get my question out.
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thank you very much, to answer your question i want to work there for my wife she is a native and she has had to deal with 4 year of me being a marine and not getting many chances to go home an see her family, so i decided once my term in the marines is over i would move to japan and work there, and live there, for a few years to make her happy and as my way to say thank you for not leaving me after four years of rarely seeing me.
also as to making my skills more marketable thats not the biggest problem i have, here in america ive already gotten job offers open to me for when i get out the marines, my resume is very nice as far as i can tell, cause i dont bluntly put out im a military trained killer i formated and choose my words properly that show what i learned as a marine and the skills ive gained as a marine. the biggest pain is i can stay in america and work as a clandestine officer for the CIA or i can move to japan and go through hell to find a job but it would make my wife happy.
thank you for your words as well but once im out the marines id lke to permanently put my guns and war on the shelf and let them collect dust i couldnt do any other stint's that would put me in the offensive or deffense for that matter i dotn think my family could deal with it any longerI'd check into an international bodyguard company. Usually the back of Soldier of Fortune magazine has a couple contacts. Traveling the world protecting rich and powerful VIPS sounds intresting.
Uncle Frank
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If you'd at least write it properly, and use reading marks, it would make things a lot easier to read. That's the point I was trying to make. ;-)
As to your situation, you could try and get some certificates (TEFL for example) that proves you're qualified for teaching English and try work in Japan as an English teacher. It's not a permanent job, but without qualifications I'm afraid you won't have many options.
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Madness, you could always use your GI bill benefits to attend university in Japan. International Christian University (ICU) and Sophia University are viable options. Once you get your degree your options are virtually limitless. Good luck to you!
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Wow, I haven't seen that magazine in ages. It used to have a lot of interesting stuff.
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If you had told us from the beginning you're eligible for a spouse visa it would have saved us a lot of trouble typing up a bunch of stuff that is irrelevant to your situation.
If you will be living anywhere near one of the US bases, looking into a civvy position on base will be your surest bet of employment and an easier "few years" in Japan.
If you will be living anywhere near one of the US bases, looking into a civvy position on base will be your surest bet of employment and an easier "few years" in Japan.
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I agree with Mike Cash. I'm terribly upset that you didn't say you were married to a Japanese! Geez, man! Get your spouse visa, if you haven't already. Now, you can work in any profession you choose, as long as the employer feels you are qualified.
Major hurdle one --> over
Major hurdle two --> still major. Just what the heck do you plan to do with all that training?
Oh, and staying a few years just to appease your Japanese wife... um, think again. Unless she has had extensive experience living abroad, you are probably going to be here the rest of your life.
Major hurdle one --> over
Major hurdle two --> still major. Just what the heck do you plan to do with all that training?
Oh, and staying a few years just to appease your Japanese wife... um, think again. Unless she has had extensive experience living abroad, you are probably going to be here the rest of your life.
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my wife has lived in america for 6 years 2 years while we were dating and 4 years with me as a marine she can deal and i already told her im not leaving my parents and siblings behind to it'll be back and forth thing for a while till we have kids and then we got to decide best place to raise them ugh. and also what can i do with the training become ive only got a few choices become a hitman, a close quarter combat instructor or if japan has a swat unit i could train them in team attack tactics, formations, and movements through urbon or jungle terrain
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madness,
You are not about to train anyone unless you have a good command of Japanese language.
Since you plan to stay here only short-term, I would say your chances at finding some work are pretty slim even now. Teaching English may be a route to consider. I was going to say open your own business (restaurant, bar, English school, etc.), but if you seriously think you are only going to be here a short time, why bother?
Re: your wife and her feelings about staying here vs. USA
Have you actually had the talk? Many have tried reading a spouse's mind, only to fail.
You are not about to train anyone unless you have a good command of Japanese language.
Since you plan to stay here only short-term, I would say your chances at finding some work are pretty slim even now. Teaching English may be a route to consider. I was going to say open your own business (restaurant, bar, English school, etc.), but if you seriously think you are only going to be here a short time, why bother?
Re: your wife and her feelings about staying here vs. USA
Have you actually had the talk? Many have tried reading a spouse's mind, only to fail.
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*cough cough*
A degree will get you in the country, but your employer will care very little after that. Experience, qualifications, certificates, etc will be what they are looking at.
You have some unique experiences but you'd need to work out how to apply it to a position in Japan. Without Japanese office work is out. English teaching is always an option.
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From what I've seen, I would suggest staying away from teaching English...
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Originally Posted by Glenski
Your competition for IT work is staggering, and they all have degrees.
Ewok's response (the meaning of which I had forgotten):
*cough cough*
Edit: Your competition for IT work is staggering, and they all have degrees or the proper qualifications.
How'm I doin', now, Ewok? Closer?☝
Your competition for IT work is staggering, and they all have degrees.
Ewok's response (the meaning of which I had forgotten):
*cough cough*
Edit: Your competition for IT work is staggering, and they all have degrees or the proper qualifications.
How'm I doin', now, Ewok? Closer?☝
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Not that it does or does not apply to the OP's particular circumstances, but I just want to make some general observations:
1. Of all the foreigners I know who ended up living in Japan what I would consider "long term", not a single blessed one of them had that in mind at the beginning. Contrarily, of all the people I have encountered who state they want to live here forever-n-ever before they even get here....very few of them have ever even come for a visit, and none have stayed very long at all. It is true that, "Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans".
2. Living anywhere near a Japanese wife's parents, especially when the husband has limited Japanese language ability, cultural acquaintance, and employability tend to make a tighter relation between the wife and parents (especially the mother) and bring distance to the relation between the wife and husband. The wives tend to come to display a reluctance to leave Japan again, and the situation is greatly magnified when children are added to the mix. The foreign husband can tend to become isolated and marginalized. Resultant divorces are not uncommon.
1. Of all the foreigners I know who ended up living in Japan what I would consider "long term", not a single blessed one of them had that in mind at the beginning. Contrarily, of all the people I have encountered who state they want to live here forever-n-ever before they even get here....very few of them have ever even come for a visit, and none have stayed very long at all. It is true that, "Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans".
2. Living anywhere near a Japanese wife's parents, especially when the husband has limited Japanese language ability, cultural acquaintance, and employability tend to make a tighter relation between the wife and parents (especially the mother) and bring distance to the relation between the wife and husband. The wives tend to come to display a reluctance to leave Japan again, and the situation is greatly magnified when children are added to the mix. The foreign husband can tend to become isolated and marginalized. Resultant divorces are not uncommon.
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we have and she agree's to it, but i already know her mind enough to know that once im in the country im gonna have to argue with her about it, to be honest i have been considering a permanent stay in japan, but im not going to make my final choice until after i visit the country next spring when i get back from iraq oh and also to the person who posted about my ability to speak japanese im not what you would call fluent but i guess based on lvl im at intermediate
your second quote is a worry of mine im alreaddy dealing with her mother now, my wife mom doesnt like her daughter married to a none japanese male, especially one who kills for a living, her father ont he other hand doesnt give a crap as long as i provide what his daughter needs, i wish the woman would take a hint from her husband and step off but, what ever i will work it out with her at some point, maybe i'll just shoot her that always a good back up option hehe just joking yeah thats it joking
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frostyg02uk
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After reading your reasons for wanting to go to Japan i think your trying to do the right thing so i can say goodluck with it. (and mean it ;oP)
It seems though that your not much closer. i think once you get a spose VISA your have more opportunities when your actually in Japan then from outside but at the same time your taking a risk going first, getting employed second. maybe you should suggest visiting Japan first with your wife and working in the US for a while where you can save money working which could tie you over in Japan when you do go to live.
As for your mother in law i can understand her point the soldiers dont have the best rep at the moment and its her daughter but i think once she gets to know you she should come around and if she doesnt...hey you tried, she should trust her daughter that she raised.
PS fellow posters we are not taking part in a english LIT. competition so easy up a bit, the important thing is that we all understand each other and considering so many have replied ill take it that we did understand the question, so relax. Try not to look down on others especially when most of us dont use the best english either including myself. See i dont use a capital E when using the word english....hang me...or ban me in the other thread at the very least ;o)
It seems though that your not much closer. i think once you get a spose VISA your have more opportunities when your actually in Japan then from outside but at the same time your taking a risk going first, getting employed second. maybe you should suggest visiting Japan first with your wife and working in the US for a while where you can save money working which could tie you over in Japan when you do go to live.
As for your mother in law i can understand her point the soldiers dont have the best rep at the moment and its her daughter but i think once she gets to know you she should come around and if she doesnt...hey you tried, she should trust her daughter that she raised.
PS fellow posters we are not taking part in a english LIT. competition so easy up a bit, the important thing is that we all understand each other and considering so many have replied ill take it that we did understand the question, so relax. Try not to look down on others especially when most of us dont use the best english either including myself. See i dont use a capital E when using the word english....hang me...or ban me in the other thread at the very least ;o)
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It has already been dropped. Why did you feel the need to dredge it up again?
