Surely the meaning of 'gaijin' is contextual?! OFFTOPIC: Cajun and Gaijin

[EdZiomek]

So many ancient words are found the world over, and one maybe the Japanese equivalent of Gaijin, which I believe is the name "Cajun", referring to the French "foreigners" expelled from Canada to the swamps of Louisiana. I truthfully don't explicitly know the origin of the word, whether it was originally French or originally Amerindian, but I believe it was the latter.

In America, the name Cajun is a warm, powerful, endearing, unifying term to refer to these survivors, and in my opinion, have the best food, the best music, and one of the most inspiring, passionate groups of people in the United States. It may originally have been a slur and insult, like the name "Yankee" which originally was an insult.

Somewhere in my pseudoscience travels, I believe I found a vaguely similar term for "Gaijin" from "An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary" by Wallis Budge, but have not been able to find it again.

It simply meant "foreigner".

 

[Glenn]

So many ancient words are found the world over, and one maybe the Japanese equivalent of Gaijin, which I believe is the name "Cajun", referring to the French "foreigners" expelled from Canada to the swamps of Louisiana. I truthfully don't explicitly know the origin of the word, whether it was originally French or originally Amerindian, but I believe it was the latter.

"Cajun" came from "Acadian," which was what the people who were driven out of eastern Canada in 1763 were referred to as. I don't think it ever had the meaning "foreigner." It's more like an ethnic group's name.

 

[EdZiomek]

Good guessing...you are on the right track...

Glenn...what you can't know, is that I have found a treasure trove of Egyptian names among the Canadian Amerindian names...

Names like Ottowa, Toronto, Quebec, Saskatchewan, ...

Canada page 558...Garden Land
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2460/kahnata5oj.jpg

Quebec page 768...Egyptian Goose God
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7641/quebec1ct.jpg

Saskatchewan page 620 .... Radiance of Amun Ra
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1218/saskat23gf.jpg

Manitoba pages 274 and 824...Land of the Setting Sun
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1474/manutoba5bi.jpg

Toronto page 884 and 884...two interpretations...Jackal God or Goose God (?)
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2385/toronto1yn.jpg

So "Acadian" is definitly in the phonetic ballpark of "Cajun" and "Gaijin", and this challenge is going to drive me back into my books and find that Egyptian reference to "foreigner".

I absolutely believe you, but for reference sake, where do you show the connection between Acadian and Cajun?

It is like the Aztec "place of the butterfly", Papatlan (Papeeyahn) and the French name for butterfly...Papillion.

Or the Aztec name for bird "Huitzil", i.e., Huitzilopochtli (who-itt-see-looo: "bird snake on the left"), and one of the French names for bird "oeasal" (wee-sooo: correct me if I didn't get it exactly correct)

I wrote about these fascinating name similarities between the Japanese and Aztecs 2007,
Japanese, Egyptian, Aztec Connections...?
Japanese, Egyptian, Aztec Connections...?

...and Greek/Egyptians and Amerindian tribes in 2005...
Egyptian, Atlantean, Greek, Judaic presence in the Western Hemisphere, 5000 years before Columbus
http://www.world-mysteries.com/gw_edziom1.htm

So "Acadian", and Cajun, and Gaijin.... very similar in my book, possibly Egyptian/Babylonian.

 

[Mike Cash]

Glenn...what you can't know, is that I have found a treasure trove of Egyptian names among the Canadian Amerindian names...

Do yourself a favor and read "America B.C.:Ancient Settlers in the New World"

Amazon product ASIN 0671679740

 

[Glenn]

So "Acadian" is definitly in the phonetic ballpark of "Cajun" and "Gaijin", and this challenge is going to drive me back into my books and find that Egyptian reference to "foreigner".

Lots of words that aren't cognate are in the same phonetic ballpark. For instance, "name" and namae. There's a whole field of study that deals with this; it's called historical linguistics. I think you should read up on it before you start trying to make connections like this.

I absolutely believe you, but for reference sake, where do you show the connection between Acadian and Cajun?

I suppose it's similar to where you could find the connection between "influenza" and "flu" (not a great example, though, as "flu" was obviously derived by clipping, so they aren't parallel) or fuzakerunayo and zakkennayo. Sound change over time lead to a different way of saying the same word. But I haven't actually studied the etymology. I only know what I've read about it from a few different sources. Once again, though, if you want to study up on what processes were involved in the change, look into historical linguistics.

It is like the Aztec "place of the butterfly", Papatlan (Papeeyahn) and the French name for butterfly...Papillion.

Or the Aztec name for bird "Huitzil", i.e., Huitzilopochtli (who-itt-see-looo: "bird snake on the left"), and one of the French names for bird "oeasal" (wee-sooo: correct me if I didn't get it exactly correct)

I wrote about these fascinating name similarities between the Japanese and Aztecs 2007,
Japanese, Egyptian, Aztec Connections...?
Japanese, Egyptian, Aztec Connections...?

...and Greek/Egyptians and Amerindian tribes in 2005...
Egyptian, Atlantean, Greek, Judaic presence in the Western Hemisphere, 5000 years before Columbus
http://www.world-mysteries.com/gw_edziom1.htm

So "Acadian", and Cajun, and Gaijin.... very similar in my book, possibly Egyptian/Babylonian.

I don't know for sure, but it's very likely that those are just coincidence. As far as I'm aware, there are lots of cases like this. Check out the wikipedia article on false cognates. Also, here's a list of false cognates.

 

[Mikawa Ossan]

I have split the thread. Have fun, guys!

 

[EdZiomek]

History is filled with naysayers

Glenn and Mike Cash... believe what you want, dismiss what you want, pull up Wikipedia and bet the ranch, no problem to me...and not worth continuiing the conversation past "Cajun" and "Gaijin", - I say the same, you say it is not.

PS...America BC, great wonderful book, Mike... and you are too late with your recommendation....I suggest you read "Fingerprints of the Gods", "Columbus was Last", "Across Before Columbus", "Columbus was Late", the library is filled with these diffusion books, many of them equally good.

Believe what you want.

 

[Glenn]

History is also filled with people making wild, baseless claims (which makes naysayers necessary). Whether or not you're one of them remains to be seen, but every time I've seen someone make a claim like this it has been shot down by people who have studied language. You've read a lot about American history before the arrival of Europeans, but have you read anything about historical linguisitics?

You gave words that have the same meanings and are similar and claimed that they have the same root, did you not? I gave you a list of words that have the same form and meaning and do not have the same root. For example, Egyptian hati "heart" is not cognate with Malay hati "heart." That means that just because words have the same form and meaning, they don't necessarily have the same root.

From dictionary.com

Ca·na'di·an (kə-nā'dē-ən) adj. & n.
Word History: Linguistically, mountains can be made out of molehills, so to speak: words denoting a small thing can, over time, come to denote something much larger. This is the case with Canada, now the name of the second-largest country in the world but having a much humbler origin. Apparently its history starts with the word kanata, which in Huron (an Iroquoian language of eastern Canada) meant "village." Jacques Cartier, the early French explorer, picked up the word and used it to refer to the land around his settlement, now part of Quebec City. By the 18th century it referred to all of New France, which extended from the St. Lawrence River to the Great Lakes and down into what is now the American Midwest. In 1759, the British conquered New France and used the name Quebec for the colony north of the St. Lawrence River, and Canada for the rest of the territory. Eventually, as the territory increased in size and the present arrangement of the provinces developed, Canada applied to all the land north of the United States and east of Alaska.

Nothing about ancient Egyptian in there, and I don't see anything in "khent" that can be traced to "Canada." Also, where's the connection with "khent" and "kah-yeh-na-ta?" What processed were involved in the sound changes?

You can say that "cajun" and "gaijin" are the same, but don't expect people to believe you if you don't offer any real proof for the claim.

And by the way, I never bet the ranch.

 

[GodEmperorLeto]

EdZiomak, I am right here with Glenn on this one. I am an historian, and I have read books like Graham Hancock's Fingerprints of the Gods and The Stargate Conspiracy. They are pseudoscience in the purest sense (pseudo = ﾆ津僻津θ津槌津と津 = false). They utilize a few scientific techniques to gather a limited amount of data, skew it in their favor, and then publish wildly fantastic conclusions that are logically fallible and readily disprovable.

 

[EdZiomek]

Believe what you want to believe...

I am amazed that persons can read the English language in my message, with my qualifiers that I don't know exactly how the origins came about, and certainly YOU don't know how the origins came about, (we are all offering theories, opinions, nothing cut in stone) and then you dismiss my quesswork in favor of YOUR guesswork, and others guesswork, like Wikipedia!

Am I the first person to make this guesswork? If one can't see the similarity between the Egyptian "Qe bek" and "Quebec", or the Egyptian "Sesh qetut" and "Saskatchewan", or "Cajun" and "Gaijin", I can't argue with you. You certainly have every right to dismiss my ideas, no sweat on me either way.

As mentioned many times before, 99.999% of all my theories come from library books and internet articles and archaeological research, one of the most prominent comes from World-Mysteries.com, an amazing Bolivian discovery of pottery and statuary was made in 2002 and just now deciphered, showing Sumerian linguistic characters, artwork, design, and mythology, with a time date in the 2000 BC era.
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_8.htm

But that was not my discovery. As a non educated person, non pedigreed, non schooled, I am not here to educate people, but I can't help but find amusing the history we teach our children...that the ice age cave man found the western hemisphere 12,000 years ago, and Christopher Columbus "discovered" the Americas in 1492, and for 12-13000 years, the world had amnesia, or ignorance... We teach our children that an entire hemisphere was LOST for 12000 years!

With probably 1000 or 10,000 authors in front of me, I say nothing was lost, every ocean-going culture most probably reached the Americas in a continuous stream since the ice age days. And not by COINCIDENCE do you have remarkable similarities in language, but virtually exact names around the world on many items...Hati- heart in Egyptian, Hati-heart in Malay, why aren't they the same Glenn? What common sense do you have that says they are different? Tehoti, Dao De, Tahiti, Teoti: Egyptian, Chinese, Polynesian, pre-Aztec-Mexico. Moses, Chicomoztoc. Nippon, Neponset. Nehan, Nihantic. Japan, Shippan. And yet, these words prove nothing, only offer ideas, that is all.

Taisha Priest in Chinese and Japanese
Tchaus Divine Chief in Egyptian
Texas in Amerindian, probably Divine Chief Osiris...i.e., Texkaka, Teshekoko
Teacher in English

Believe what you want to believe, my job is not to make you believe anything, or prove anything.

 

[maushan3]

I know New Orleans has a French district, I know the Cajun-style food is from the area, so know you are saying that Cajun is French, ok, now I see why all the Cajun things are associated with New Orleans, cause it's French.

Mauricio