conversation exam

[kawaiisan]

Hello All,
soon enough I'll be in a conversation exam.. basically me and a friend will have to converse in japanese, it can be planned etc, but it has to sound good..
now we're both japanese beginners, but we came up with these. I'm not so great with japanese grammar, so please check if we did something wrong

Glen : Hajimemashite. Watashi wa Guren Ke-ri desu.
Gen : Hajimemashite. Watashi wa Watanabe Gen desu.
Douzo yoroshiku.
Glen : ee? Hontou ni Watanabe Ken desu ka?
Ken-san no namae wa totemo yuumei desu yo.
Gen : Chigau yo. Gen desu. Ken ja arimasen.
Glen : aa sou desu ka?
Gen-san wa nihonkara kimashita ka?
Gen : hai sou desu.
Glen san wa dochira kara kimashita ka?
Glen : Watashi wa perujin desu.
Peru ni nihonjin ga takusan imasu.
Gen : aa sou desu ka? yoku wakaranga, peru wa
doko desu ka?
Glen : Peru wa nanbei ni arimasu.
Gen : nanbei wa doko desu ka?
Glen : nanbei wa amerika no shita ga arimasu.
Gen : sou ka.. etto.. nanbei ni doko desu ka?
Glen : Chire to Burajiru no chikaku desu.
Gen : aa sou.. demo..
nihon ni perujin ga takusan imasen..
Glen : sou desu ne.. tokoro de, Gen-san wa
gakusei desu ka?
Gen : gakusei desu. Glen-san mo gakusei desu ka?
Glen : Hai. Watashi wa yonensei desu. Gen san wa
nanensei desu ka?
Gen : watashi mo yonensei desu! Senkou wa?
Glen : Kougaku desu. Gen-san mo kougaku
desu ka?
Gen : iie, igaku desu.
Glen : igakubu ni, donna sensei ga imasu ka?
Gen : kowai sensei ga takusan imasu. ii sensei
mo takusan imasu. demo, kirei na onna
no sensei ga amari takusan imasen.
Glen : Sou desu ka.. demo, kougakubu ni onna no
sensei ga imasen yo.
Gen : konban, toshokan e ikimasu ga, toshokan
wa doko ka wakaranai.. shiteimasu ka?
Glen : "morven brown" no chikaku ni
toshokan ga arimasu.
Gen : aa sou desu ka? arigatou gozaimashita
Glen : iie.
Gen : Ja, sayonara. "it was nice to meet you" <-- need something in japanese
Glen : kochirakoso. Ja, ne
So yeah, that's all.. I think we might be overkilling it since we just started our japanese class a few weeks ago. It's a beginners class, and some of the stuff above is stuff I knew, and had to put it in because otherwise the conversation would just involve of things like "hey my name is X, there is a piano in my room" etc. Tried to make it a bit more interesting but yeah..
Anyways, please critique!
yoroshiku onegaishimasu

 

[nhk9]

It was tough reading those romaji. Hope you are learning some real Japanese in your class.

Just a couple of pointers:

You don't need to say "watashi wa x desu" unless you really want to emphasize that. "x desu" would suffice.

Gen has a mixture of polite and casual speech. You might want to fix that up.

Chigau yo is very blunt. Not something you want to say towards a person whom you've just met for the first time.

Nice to meet you in your case can be "aete ureshii desu".

Sayonara is redundant in this case. "Dewa, mata" would be better.

 

[protheus]

失礼ですが、 聞きたいことがあるんで。。。

なぜ、 「さようなら」とは、 "redundant"に なるのですか？

 

[Glenn]

Nice to meet you in your case can be "aete ureshii desu".

I think that's more like "I'm glad I got to meet you." He seems to be more after kongo tomo (dôzo) yoroshiku (onegai shimasu).

Sayonara is redundant in this case. "Dewa, mata" would be better.

I wouldn't say redundant. I would say inappropriate, unless he really thinks they won't meet again. Of course, if it were going to be really polite then dewa, shitsurei shimasu or dewa, kono hen de or dewa, sorosoro or something like that. But I think just ja, mata ne would suffice in this situation, for both of them, unless neither of them plans on seeing the other one again.

 

[Glenn]

Glen : nanbei wa amerika no shita ga arimasu.

I think minami would be better than shita, but I suppose shita also works. Also, shita/minami ga arimasu -> shita/minami ni arimasu.

Gen : sou ka.. etto.. nanbei ni doko desu ka?

Could be just a typo, but nanbei no doko desu ka.

Glen : Hai. Watashi wa yonensei desu. Gen san wa nanensei desu ka?

Again, could be a typo, but Gen san wa nannensei.

Gen : konban, toshokan e ikimasu ga, toshokan
wa doko ka wakaranai.. shiteimasu ka?

shitteimasu ka.

 

[nhk9]

I think that's more like "I'm glad I got to meet you." He seems to be more after kongo tomo (dôzo) yoroshiku (onegai shimasu).



I wouldn't say redundant. I would say inappropriate, unless he really thinks they won't meet again. Of course, if it were going to be really polite then dewa, shitsurei shimasu or dewa, kono hen de or dewa, sorosoro or something like that. But I think just ja, mata ne would suffice in this situation, for both of them, unless neither of them plans on seeing the other one again.

Lol I was trying to give him exactly what he wanted. If you translate that literally it can be "aete sudeki deshita"... but of course, that's Japlish. You could try "aete ureshikatta", in the past tense, but it seems to me the present tense form is much more common. Kongo tomo sounds quite stiff, so maybe korekara mo maybe a better substitute. But either works in this case I think.

Sayo(u)nara is used in formal situations, or during important occasions. Ja is a word usually used when leaving another person behind. If you're gonna use "sayonara", I recommend that you don't use Ja, as you might want some coherence in your tone.

 

[undrentide]

Sayo(u)nara is used in formal situations, or during important occasions. Ja is a word usually used when leaving another person behind. If you're gonna use "sayonara", I recommend that you don't use Ja, as you might want some coherence in your tone.

Sayounara is hardly used even in a formal situations, or important occasions.
(To be honest, I don't think "sayounara" has that polite tone, either.)
As Glenn pointed out, it is used only when people are sure they won't meet again...

 

[Elizabeth]

Lol I was trying to give him exactly what he wanted. If you translate that literally it can be "aete sudeki deshita"... but of course, that's Japlish. You could try "aete ureshikatta", in the past tense, but it seems to me the present tense form is much more common. Kongo tomo sounds quite stiff, so maybe korekara mo maybe a better substitute. But either works in this case I think.

"Aete (aidekite) yokatta." is good here I think. Of course you could also make it
"Nice talking with you...." Either one.

Sayounara is used more between Japanese and Westerners....but these are meant to approximate native speakers, correct ? Not two practicing foreigners....
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[kawaiisan]

みなさん、
本当にありがとう

Also, a friend suggested "Mata aimashoo". That means something along the lines of "let's meet again next time" right?

 

[nhk9]

Sayounara is hardly used even in a formal situations, or important occasions.
(To be honest, I don't think "sayounara" has that polite tone, either.)
As Glenn pointed out, it is used only when people are sure they won't meet again...

Correct me if I am wrong but sometimes I do hear it on TV at the shows' ending, although not too often nowadays. I guess "saraba" maybe a better one for the situation in which you know that you won't meet the other party again (or at least for a very long time).

My teacher used to use it just after our term is over. I don't think she ever used it in a situation other than that though.

 

[Glenn]

From what I've heard the student/teacher situation at school is like a different universe; i.e., you can say sayônara to your teacher, and they can say it to you, even when you know you'll be seeing each other again the next day even.

 

[Elizabeth]

みなさん、
本当にありがとう
Also, a friend suggested "Mata aimashoo". That means something along the lines of "let's meet again next time" right?

Yes, it means "let's meet again." I didn't realize that was what you wanted to say. That can be followed with a goodbye like "mata ne" or "ja ne" but obviously not "kochirakoso."

I use sayounara with my Japanese tutor all the time, even when I call back the same day. It's good to know that isn't a convention we started on our own....

 

[Glenn]

Kochira koso would be the proper reply to kongo tomo/kore kara mo (dôzo) yoroshiku (onegai shimasu), though, which I feel is the best phrase for the situation at hand and the meaning he intended.

 

[Elizabeth]

Kochira koso would be the proper reply to kongo tomo/kore kara mo (dôzo) yoroshiku (onegai shimasu), though, which I feel is the best phrase for the situation at hand and the meaning he intended.

I don't know...it still has a much more stiff and formal feel than the preceeding conversation has set up. Maybe something like "Mata aimashou."
"Dewa (Ja) mata, chikai uchi ni. Ki wo tsukete." is a little more developed but still sufficient.

 

[kawaiisan]

グレンさん、 エリザベトさん、thanks a lot

It turns out that we can't use kougaku (engineering) faculty, so im thinking of making up some faculty called the "counter-terrorism" faculty.. what is it called in japanese?

Also, would it be right to ask, "where is the faculty located" using "XXXgakubu wa dochira desu ka?"

And when using location, is it "location ni shita" or "location no shita"? me and a friend are a bit confused on this..

thanks everyone for the help so far

 

[Elizabeth]

グレンさん、 エリザベトさん、thanks a lot
It turns out that we can't use kougaku (engineering) faculty, so im thinking of making up some faculty called the "counter-terrorism" faculty.. what is it called in japanese?
Also, would it be right to ask, "where is the faculty located" using "XXXgakubu wa dochira desu ka?"
And when using location, is it "location ni shita" or "location no shita"? me and a friend are a bit confused on this..

I don't know the best rendering of "counter terrorism facility." In any case, XXX ha dochira desuka (deshouka?) is fine. Dochira can be interpreted as where,
which direction, which one (of two)....

"Location no shita" I don't understand. You mean under or beneath the location ? It would be "no shita."

 

[Glenn]

It turns out that we can't use kougaku (engineering) faculty, so im thinking of making up some faculty called the "counter-terrorism" faculty.. what is it called in japanese?

テロ対策部

Seriously, though, I'm not sure that would make much sense. Why can't you use kôgaku? How about shinrigaku or something else?

 

[kawaiisan]

well, I'm doing it with two partners and one of them already uses engineering and there's this "no duplicate" policy thing going..

テロ対策部

that's "terotaisakubu" right?

"Location no shita" I don't understand. You mean under or beneath the location ? It would be "no shita."

thanks a lot! we were thinking of using it to say "私は地獄からきました。地獄はどこですか? 地獄はヘブンの下にあります。".. but i thought we shouldnt use heaven or hell for an exam like thing..

 

[Glenn]

that's "terotaisakubu" right?

Yeah, but it isn't a faculty department. I guess you'd have to throw a gaku in there for that: tero taisaku gakubu. Still, not too sure how that would work out.

 

[Elizabeth]

Yeah, but it isn't a faculty department. I guess you'd have to throw a gaku in there for that: tero taisaku gakubu. Still, not too sure how that would work out.

I found about a 100 references to 対テロ部 on Google so if you don't want to be the terrorist department, you may be able to pass with that..... Your teacher probably won't know the difference either. It is still a fairly revolutionary area to study after all.