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現在我中文說得不好,可是我想練習中文,因為我8月去 台灣 (花蓮),和我想會懂中文。
你們愛吃什麼?中國飯?日本飯?美國飯?

台灣飯和中國飯是同嗎?我不知道,你們請教我!

現在你們在哪裡?中國?台灣?我在美國的Wisconsin州。天氣是不好。
我要去有很好天氣的場所!!:-)
 
your Chinese is really good ~
However, there is another way to speak more pure~
Gaijinian said:
和我想會懂中文。

correct : 我希望我能懂中文

Gaijinian said:
你們愛吃什麼?中國飯?日本飯?美國飯?
correct: 中国菜 日本菜 美国菜



Gaijinian said:
台灣飯和中國飯是同嗎?我不知道,你們請教我!
correct :台灣飯和中國飯是一样的嗎?我不知道,请你们教我!


Gaijinian said:
現在你們在哪裡?中國?台灣?
correct:現在你們在哪裡?中國大陆?中国台灣?

Taiwan is part of China . you question is same as:where are you now ?Wisconsin? USA?

Gaijinian said:
我在美國的Wisconsin州。天氣是不好。
correct: 我在美國的华盛顿州。天气不是很好

Gaijinian said:
我要去有很好天氣的場所!!

correct: 我要去天气很好的地方!!

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花蓮 是个很好的地方,我猜你有个亲戚在那里吧?
中國飯 有很多种类, 至少有5(五)种 ,台灣飯 属于沿海省份喜欢的一种。
台湾的天气应该不错~ 现在是五月份,应该容易下雨。
 
Gaijinian said:
ナ陳サツ催昶?ーテ、窶吮??窶「ツカ說窶慊セ窶「sツ好ツ,窶ーテつ青・窶ーテ、窶?窶氾サツ習窶吮??窶「ツカツ,ヒ?カヒ?冷?ーテ、窶啗ナ椎ス窶ケナス 窶佚、テ?s ツ(窶ーテ藩廖ツ)ツ,ヒ彗窶ーテ、窶?ヒ愿ー懂窶吮??窶「ツカツ。
你ヒ愿ャヒ?、窶ケhツ什窶コテオツ?窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶敕堕?窶愿コ窶怒窶敕堕?窶敕シナ。ツ?窶敕堕?
窶佚、テ?s窶敕騨彗窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶敕堕青・窶慊ッ嗎ツ?窶ーテ、窶「s窶冦窶慊ケツ,你ヒ愿ャツ青ソ窶ケツウ窶ーテ、ツ!
ナ陳サツ催?#20320;ヒ愿ャツ催?#21738;窶板。ツ?窶吮??ナ。ツ?ツ?窶佚、テ?sツ?窶ーテ、ツ催昶?敕シナ。ツ?窶廬窶嘛窶壺?ー窶壺?懌?堡停?堋鞘?塲ス窶壺?懌?壺?ー窶塲スツ州ツ。窶弖ナク窶?ツ青・窶「sツ好ツ。
窶ーテ、窶牌窶ケナス窶猫ナ徒ツ好窶弖ナク窶?窶廬ツ湘ェツ焦?ツ!ツ!:-)

窶佛?321go 說窶廬, 你窶廬ナ?ツソナ津ェ窶コ窶敖鞘?ー窶コ{ナステ塚愿陳講, ツ青・ツ好窶廬ツ。
窶ーテ、窶戳ヒ?療、iテ?sツ催侏彗窶吮??ナ。ツ?ツ催伉青・窶佛?ナス窶? 窶僊窶「sツ青・窶佛?窶慊ッツ。テ、iテ?sツ催倪?猫窶伉シヒ愿ャナスツゥナ津遺?愿≫?「テ岩?廬窶督。窶慊ケツ。
窶愿コ窶怒ヒ彗ナ?テ佛。ツ?ツ食窶「ツィツ催敕、iテ?s, 窶敕アツ湘ュ窶「ツ≫?「テ閉。
窶ーテ、ヒ?、窶ケh窶吮??ナ。ツ?, 窶邸ナ。ツ?, 窶ケ`窶佚・窶藩? 窶愿コ窶怒, 窶佚稜。ツ?ヒ彗ナ?テ佛。ツ?ツ催?
窶ーテ、ツ催昶?邸ナ。ツ?, 窶ーテ??弖ヒ愿停?氾? 窶弖ナク窶?ナ?Jナスn溫窶冏ツ。

I think 窶吮??窶「ツカ窶氾サツ縮 should be 窶吮??窶「ツカ /ナ?ツソナ津ェ 窶氾サツ習. Try to understand what I wrote if you don't understand something you can ask me!
 
Minty said:
I think 窶吮??窶「ツカ窶氾サツ縮 should be 窶吮??窶「ツカ /ナ?ツソナ津ェ 窶氾サツ習. Try to understand what I wrote if you don't understand something you can ask me!

That's an unfortunate problem with the forum: it changes Japanese and Chinese text for some unknown reason. He had it right in the body of the message.
 
窶ーテ伉青キ窶愿堋州
Isn't this washington??? What about Wisconsin???
 
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各位,答謝謝!(Thanks for the replies)
Minty,我一點明白了。
臺灣菜有他們自己特別的味道。
很好味道嗎?(Well, I guess I'll know soon enough...)

我和思"盛頓州"是Washington...Wisconsin是甚麼中文字嗎?

Anyway, thanks for the corrections! I'll write more later; I have to go to class now...
再見!
 
Gaijinian said:
ナ?eヒ?環,窶愬。ナステ毒ステ?(Thanks for the replies)

Should read: ナ?eヒ?? ナステ毒ステ凪?愬。窶「ナ?

Mintyツ,窶ーテ、ヒ?ェテェy窶督セ窶昶?吮?板ケツ。

Answer: 窶氾??ーテー窶伉スツ渉ュ? / 窶督セ窶昶?吮?伉スツ渉ュ?

ナ徒ツ好窶督。窶慊ケ嗎ツ?ツ(Well, I guess I'll know soon enough...)

窶督。窶慊ケナ徒ツ好嗎ツ?is better.

Answer: ナ?テ ツ人ツ。

窶ーテ、ヒ彗ナスv"ツ青キ窶愿堋州ツ"ツ青・Washington...Wisconsinツ青・ツ甚窶コテオ窶吮??窶「ツカナスナ。嗎ツ?
Anyway, thanks for the corrections! I'll write more later; I have to go to class now...ツ催?陳ゥツ!

Should read: 窶ーテ、窶戳ヒ??ツ青キ窶愿堋州ツ"ツ青・Washington...Wisconsin窶吮??窶「ツカツ青・ツ甚窶コテオツ?

Answer: Wisconsin 窶吮??窶「ツカツ青・ヒ?税スzツ康ツ。

Ok, keep up the good work!👍
 
Minty said:
Should read: 窶ーテ、窶戳ヒ??ツ青キ窶愿堋州ツ"ツ青・Washington...Wisconsin窶吮??窶「ツカツ青・ツ甚窶コテオツ?
Your chinese is pretty good too, but it should be 窶ーテ伉青キ窶愿堋州, not "ツ青キ窶愿堋州ツ".

窶廃ナ?テ暗ゥ窶愬スナ。ツ就ヒ愿ーツ出ナ陳サヒ慊ェテ。テケツ。ナ?テッ窶ーテカ窶堙銀?堋・ツーツ。
 
osias said:
Your chinese is pretty good too, but it should be 窶ーテ伉青キ窶愿堋州, not "ツ青キ窶愿堋州ツ".
窶廃ナ?テ暗ゥ窶愬スナ。ツ就ヒ愿ーツ出ナ陳サヒ慊ェテ。テケツ。ナ?テッ窶ーテカ窶堙銀?堋・ツーツ。

I know it is 窶ーテ伉青キ窶愿堋州, I think I must have cut out the 窶ーテ accidentally.
 
Ahh I miss being foul mouthed & chinese, only been in japan 3 months & already Im not sure I can ever fully trust a nation of people whose profane vocabulary extends to "your mother has a sticky out belly button!"

by the way I think wisconsin should be something like 为始肯新 (州) dont worry about it。 break it down into chinese soundin syllabuls & no one will really question you, say it loud & like if they dont understand then they must have the gap in their geography rather than its your bad pronunciation & theyll just accept it as right. Taiwan might be a little different but the people might not even know where wisconsin is in the states anyway. I once had a conversation with a guy in 洛阳 about my nationality. Went like this,

你是哪个国家的?
我? 英国人
阿, 美国人, 这样子
不是,我是英国人
美国甚麽地方?.........

lasted a good few minutes that one 2!

ps Stop moanin about the jian ti zi. LEARN SOME PROPER CHINESE! its a better system anyway, just takes longer to write.

tangent : anyone know when japan started using jian ti han zi? coz I cant imagine china basing their system on the japanese one after the war.
 
apparently the han zi engine cant deal wid han zi not used in the japanese language, they come up as what looks like kou, above should read

...something like wei shi ken xin,,,,

a, mei guo ren, zhe yang zi...

mei guo shen me di fang...
 
Japanese simplified first, in 1947, and China did base some simplifications off of the Japanese versions.

I'm not sure what you mean about them not displaying. It looks fine to me. I can see 这样ナスq with no problem.

sengokou said:
ps Stop moanin about the jian ti zi. LEA窶嘔窶嗄 SOME PROPER CHINESEツ! its a better system anyway, just takes longer to write.

What do you mean by "learn proper Chinese," anyway? I don't get what you mean here. You're saying that 简窶佚固スナ。 is better than 窶敕嘉ゥ窶愬スナ。 and that it takes longer to write? Are you equating 简窶佚固スナ。 with proper Chinese?
 
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sengokou said:
Ahh I miss being foul mouthed & chinese, only been in japan 3 months & already Im not sure I can ever fully trust a nation of people whose profane vocabulary extends to "your mother has a sticky out belly button!"
by the way I think wisconsin should be something like 为ナスnツ肯ツ新 (ツ州ツ) dont worry about itツ。 break it down into chinese soundin syllabuls & no one will really question you, say it loud & like if they dont understand then they must have the gap in their geography rather than its your bad pronunciation & theyll just accept it as right. Taiwan might be a little different but the people might not even know where wisconsin is in the states anyway. I once had a conversation with a guy in 窶版?#38451; about my nationality. Went like this,
你ツ青・哪ヒ慊「ツ坂?倪?ーテ??廬ツ?
窶ーテ、? 窶ーpツ坂?伉人
ヒ?「ツ, 窶敕シツ坂?伉人ツ, 这样ナスq
窶「sツ青・ツ,窶ーテ、ツ青・窶ーpツ坂?伉人
窶敕シツ坂?伉甚麽窶冢窶「テサ?.........
lasted a good few minutes that one 2!
ps Stop moanin about the jian ti zi. LEA窶嘔窶嗄 SOME PROPER CHINESEツ! its a better system anyway, just takes longer to write.
tangent : anyone know when japan started using jian ti han zi? coz I cant imagine china basing their system on the japanese one after the war.

Are you Taiwanese who live in Japan?
 
It's true that many Chinese youth know little about geography beyond China nowadays, I should be sad for u to have met some even worse guy who

mistook Britain as a part of the USA, hehe, coz for us, you all speak English, and many of Americans original from Britain, so I guess that's why the

Chinese guy made the mistake. In contrary, how much you guys know China's geography? probably aslo quite weak.

It's also true that break the word Wisconsin down into chinese soundin syllabuls & no one will really question, but if you really want yourself

to be understood and speak beautiful Chinese, try to remember 威斯康星州(wei si kang xing zhou, all with pitch 1) is the correct Chinese words for

Wisconsin.

It's also hard to believe for us if china basing our system on the japanese one after the war. If it's true I won't blame, coz Han Zhi(kanji) is the culture

treasure for both of our 2 countries, we don't have to make our Han Zhi different bcoz we had difficult times. As long as it's for the good of our great

Han Zhi, we better seek common points while reserving difference. Not like Korea, having been using Chinese words for thousands of years, suddenly forbids any use of Han Zhi anymore, I don't know how do they show respect to their ancestors.:(
 
It's true that many Chinese youth know little about geography beyond China nowadays, I should be sad for u to have met some even worse guy who

mistook Britain as a part of the USA, hehe, coz for us, you all speak English, and many of Americans original from Britain, so I guess that's why the

Chinese guy made the mistake. In contrary, how much you guys know China's geography? probably aslo quite weak.

It's also true that break the word Wisconsin down into chinese soundin syllabuls & no one will really question, but if you really want yourself

to be understood and speak beautiful Chinese, try to remember ヒ?税スzツ康ツ青ッツ州(wei si kang xing zhou, all with pitch 1) is the correct Chinese words for

Wisconsin.

It's also hard to believe for us if china basing our system on the japanese one after the war. If it's true I won't blame, coz Han Zhi(kanji) is the culture

treasure for both of our 2 countries, we don't have to make our Han Zhi different bcoz we had difficult times. As long as it's for the good of our great

Han Zhi, we better seek common points while reserving difference. Not like Korea, having been using Chinese words for thousands of years, suddenly forbids any use of Han Zhi anymore, I don't know how do they show respect to their ancestors.

sengokou said:
Ahh I miss being foul mouthed & chinese, only been in japan 3 months & already Im not sure I can ever fully trust a nation of people whose profane vocabulary extends to "your mother has a sticky out belly button!"
by the way I think wisconsin should be something like 为ナスnツ肯ツ新 (ツ州ツ) dont worry about itツ。 break it down into chinese soundin syllabuls & no one will really question you, say it loud & like if they dont understand then they must have the gap in their geography rather than its your bad pronunciation & theyll just accept it as right. Taiwan might be a little different but the people might not even know where wisconsin is in the states anyway. I once had a conversation with a guy in 窶版?#38451; about my nationality. Went like this,
你ツ青・哪ヒ慊「ツ坂?倪?ーテ??廬ツ?
窶ーテ、? 窶ーpツ坂?伉人
ヒ?「ツ, 窶敕シツ坂?伉人ツ, 这样ナスq
窶「sツ青・ツ,窶ーテ、ツ青・窶ーpツ坂?伉人
窶敕シツ坂?伉甚麽窶冢窶「テサ?.........
lasted a good few minutes that one 2!
ps Stop moanin about the jian ti zi. LEA窶嘔窶嗄 SOME PROPER CHINESEツ! its a better system anyway, just takes longer to write.
tangent : anyone know when japan started using jian ti han zi? coz I cant imagine china basing their system on the japanese one after the war.
 
sengokou said:
Ahh I miss being foul mouthed & chinese, only been in japan 3 months & already Im not sure I can ever fully trust a nation of people whose profane vocabulary extends to "your mother has a sticky out belly button!"
by the way I think wisconsin should be something like 为ナスnツ肯ツ新 (ツ州ツ) dont worry about itツ。 break it down into chinese soundin syllabuls & no one will really question you, say it loud & like if they dont understand then they must have the gap in their geography rather than its your bad pronunciation & theyll just accept it as right. Taiwan might be a little different but the people might not even know where wisconsin is in the states anyway. I once had a conversation with a guy in 窶版?#38451; about my nationality. Went like this,
你ツ青・哪ヒ慊「ツ坂?倪?ーテ??廬ツ?
窶ーテ、? 窶ーpツ坂?伉人
ヒ?「ツ, 窶敕シツ坂?伉人ツ, 这样ナスq
窶「sツ青・ツ,窶ーテ、ツ青・窶ーpツ坂?伉人
窶敕シツ坂?伉甚麽窶冢窶「テサ?.........
lasted a good few minutes that one 2!
ps Stop moanin about the jian ti zi. LEA窶嘔窶嗄 SOME PROPER CHINESEツ! its a better system anyway, just takes longer to write.
tangent : anyone know when japan started using jian ti han zi? coz I cant imagine china basing their system on the japanese one after the war.
^_^ Haha ,your joke is really funny!
There is no doubt you have learned Chinese language~,and ,it seens that you are very confident ~ .......
 
Japanese simplified first, in 1947, and China did base some simplifications off of the Japanese versions.

Although Japan officially simplified first with ツ新ナスナ。窶佚 Shinjitai and then later on China simplified in 1956 with 简窶佚固スナ。 Jiantizi, China definitely did not base the simplifications off Shinjitai. Rather, the simplifications originated from the the Chinese language a long time ago, but that they have been imported into Japanese earlier than into Chinese in 'official' terms.

Many of today's simplified Hanzi are actually based on 'abbreviations' that have been in existence since the Qin Dynasty (221 BC) and then later on, on a form of writing that originated in the Han Dynasty (206 BC) called Cursive Script (Caoshu) - and from which the Japanese Hiragana is derived.
 
ナ陳サツ催昶?ーテ、窶吮??窶「ツカ說窶慊セ窶「sツ好ツ,窶ーテつ青・窶ーテ、窶?窶氾サツ習窶吮??窶「ツカツ,ヒ?カヒ?冷?ーテ、窶啗ナ椎ス窶ケナス 窶佚、テ?s ツ(窶ーテ藩廖ツ)ツ,ヒ彗窶ーテ、窶?ヒ愿ー懂窶吮??窶「ツカツ。
你ヒ愿ャヒ?、窶ケhツ什窶コテオツ?窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶敕堕?窶愿コ窶怒窶敕堕?窶敕シナ。ツ?窶敕堕?

窶佚、テ?s窶敕騨彗窶吮??ナ。ツ?窶敕堕青・窶慊ッ嗎ツ?窶ーテ、窶「s窶冦窶慊ケツ,你ヒ愿ャツ青ソ窶ケツウ窶ーテ、ツ!

ナ陳サツ催?#20320;ヒ愿ャツ催?#21738;窶板。ツ?窶吮??ナ。ツ?ツ?窶佚、テ?sツ?窶ーテ、ツ催昶?敕シナ。ツ?窶廬窶嘛窶壺?ー窶壺?懌?堡停?堋鞘?塲ス窶壺?懌?壺?ー窶塲スツ州ツ。窶弖ナク窶?ツ青・窶「sツ好ツ。
窶ーテ、窶牌窶ケナス窶猫ナ徒ツ好窶弖ナク窶?窶廬ツ湘ェツ焦?ツ!ツ!:-)

窶吮??ツ坂?伉催侏彗窶佚、ヒ徘ツ催倪?「sヒ?ェ样ツ,窶僊窶吮??ツ坂?侏彗窶佚、ヒ徘ツ好窶佛凪?徭窶猫窶ーテ?湘ュツ催伉(the kind of food they usually eat at home)ヒ彗ナ?O头ナス`厅窶廬ツ催伉,and they are like totally different from each other..
 
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